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August 30th 03, 05:31 AM
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The Late, Great Immanuel Velikovsky, This One's for YOU!
More than 50 years ago, the late, great Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky combined supreme intelligence and incredible courage to write "Worlds in Collision" and "Earth in Upheaval." His two books set the Scientific Establishment back on its unscrupulous heels, offering the undeniable physical evidence that the Good Earth had NOT been sleeping peacefully for countless eons as it had so long insisted. Instead, the late, great Immanuel Velikovsky presented a different picture of the earth's past: mindboggling, horrific catastrophes, some of which had torn both man and animal from limb to limb. It is a matter of historical record that the late, great Immanuel Velikovsky had been subjected to the very worse that the Scientific Establishment could offer -- the victim of deceit, deception, collusion and conspiracy, as well as relentless assassination upon his character. Well, this vicious assault upon truth continues to this very day, but with one BIG difference . The Internet has given John Q, Public a ringside seat to the sewer tactics employed by members of the Pseudoscientifc Establishment in their adamant denial of the physical evidence that confirms -- beyond all doubt -- Man as Old as Coal. That's because they are glaringly aware that it has provided sibstantial ADDITIONAL credence that the late, great Immanuel Velikovsky was 100 percent right and the Pseudoscientic Establishment was -- and still is -- 110 percent wrong. How could petrified bones, teeth and even soft organs -- some human -- be preserved between anthracite veins if some unfathomable catastrophe had not put them there? Fortunately, much good will come out of the ongoing battle between Ed Conrad and the vested-interest academia know-it-all's who have long made a mockery of the sacred name Science. That's because, back in the days of the late, great Immanuel Velikovsky, the deceit, deception, collusion and conspiracy -- as well as character assassination -- weren't plainly visible and hidden from view of the general public. So, the average person wasn't aware that the "prestigious" scientific institutions, their so-called "experts," their scientific publications AND the news media were ALL totally controlled by the Pseudoscientific Establishment. Well, we all know they still are today . But the major difference between then and now is the Internet, with itsr newsgroups and Google (deja.com), magnificent repositories of the written word. It means that the pseudoscientists' disgraceful mistreatment of facts and physical evidence is plainly visible while they carry out their day-to-day mission of annihilating facts and ignoring physical evidence, same as they did to the late, great Immanuel Velikovsky some 50 years ago. Thank heaven for the Internet. It means that the most of the sewer tactics employed by members of the Pseudoscientific Esablishment are in plain view for all to see, and they will be visible for generations to come, long after they have thrown in the towel.. There -- in plain view -- your children and grandchildren will be able to see how ridiculous the pseudos were, defending their defenseless paradigm of the evolution of man. The discovery of petrified human bones, teeth and soft organs between anthracite veins is destroying their erreonous paradigm because they predate, by multi-millions of years, the pseudoscientists' facetious theory that man had a non-human ancestior (which, of course, we never did). Some day -- when truth finally comes shining through -- we'll all be able to look back and see how low the disgrceful, deplorable, disgusting pseudos had stooped to defend their fairy tales and protect vested interests. ================================================= IMMANUEL VELIKOVSKY, THIS ONE'S FOR YOU! All Found Between Anthracite Coal Veins) http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z11calv.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/z8femur.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/z5gall.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/newtibia.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/skullb.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/z9lung.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-001S.JPG http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-002S.JPG http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-006S.JPG http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/1tooth.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/z3dino.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/MVC-013F.JPG http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/MVC-012F.JPG http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Day/MVC-005S.JPG http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-001S.JPG http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-010S.JPG http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-020S.JPG http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/SCORPIONS/MVC-039S.JPG http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-003S.JPG http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-005S.JPG http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/FINGER/MVC-008S.JPG http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/FINGER/MVC-011S.JPG and, the latest discovery, a petrified human toe (with toenail). http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Au29/MVC-017S.JPG shown with the petrified human finger (with fingernail). http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Au29/MVC-016S.JPG ============================================== Ed Conrad http://www.edconrad.com Man as Old as Coal ============================================= 
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August 30th 03, 05:45 AM
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The Late, Great Immanuel Velikovsky, This One's for YOU!
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 04:31:39 GMT, several witnesses claim to have seen
(Ed Conrad) scrawl a message on the wall: More than 50 years ago, the late, great Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky combined supreme intelligence and incredible courage to write "Worlds in Collision" and "Earth in Upheaval." Got another account pulled, huh? Well, back into the killfile, you nutcase. -- Douglas Berry http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5 Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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August 30th 03, 06:02 AM
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The Late, Great Immanuel Velikovsky, This One's for YOU!
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 04:31:39 GMT, (Ed Conrad)
wrote: More than 50 years ago, the late, great Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky combined supreme intelligence and incredible courage to write "Worlds in Collision" and "Earth in Upheaval." You left out "massively unsupported assertions" among his credentials.
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August 30th 03, 11:27 AM
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The Late, Great Immanuel Velikovsky, This One's for YOU!
(Ed Conrad) wrote in message ...
snip self-important, substanceless speechmaking IMMANUEL VELIKOVSKY, THIS ONE'S FOR YOU! All Found Between Anthracite Coal Veins) snip On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 02:50:20 +0000 (UTC), (David Sienkiewicz) wrote: (Ed Conrad) wrote in message ... PLEASE excuse me for being SO brash For calling the Theory of Evolution trash Care to debate this, Ed, on, say, Laura Lee? Even the peudos know well That their game's but a shell And very soon to the ground it will crash As usual, you're all talk - and it's just another means to attempt to prop up your lies. Speaking of which: DISCOVERIES BETWEEN ANTHRACITE VEINS ( Strata dated at a minimum of 280 million years) Let's take them one at a time, shall we? snip http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/skullb.jpg Apparently, with respect to this one, you were shown that the apparent skull was just an accumulation of clay. One of the letters that YOU posted, Ed, has the scientist explaining this to you, washing off the clay, and leaving you satisfied that there is no skull in the boulder. That's what the letter that YOU posted said, Ed, and you have never contradicted it. Well, I will NOW, Attorney Sienkiewicz. Produce the letter and I will be more than happy to supply a rebuttal. My guess, Ed, is that you ran from it all this time and figure it's safe now to try to respond. Check out your message he http://groups.google.com/groups?q=au.... net&rnum=74 Which provides us to a link to this photograph: http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Pseudo/MVC-203S.JPG It's very difficult to read, but here's the part that caught my eye: "My examination of the rock showed that Mr. Conrad had a large boulder covered with dry clay, the clay having the color of old bone. When I showed him that a brush with water would wash the 'bone' away, HE SEEMED CONVINCED THAT THERE WERE NO BONES PRESENT [emphasis added]. His boulder did have a superificial resemblance to an animal skull, but this was merely because of the way the clay had dried on it." You have once again crucified the facts. No, Ed, the problem here is common of liars. You have told so many lies that is has become impossible for you to keep track of them all. snip and, the latest discovery, a petrified human toe (with toenail). http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Au29/MVC-017S.JPG shown with the petrified human finger (with fingernail). http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Au29/MVC-016S.JPG Ed, you once told us that you do not identify your specimens. So, with respect to these alleged latest discoveries, who decided that these are petrified human digits? What testing was done to make that determination? snip You know, Ed, you must be pretty pathetic to get a rejection letter even from the National Enquirer.
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August 30th 03, 05:38 PM
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The Late, Great Immanuel Velikovsky, This One's for YOU!
In article ,
says... On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 04:31:39 GMT, (Ed Conrad) wrote: More than 50 years ago, the late, great Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky combined supreme intelligence and incredible courage to write "Worlds in Collision" and "Earth in Upheaval." You left out "massively unsupported assertions" among his credentials. He's also left out "thoroughly discredited in many areas". Consider Velikovsky's suggestion that Venus was a giant comet and his inability to correctly predict the surface temperature. Radio telescopy and satellite mapping have convincingly proven that Velikovsky didn't know **** about Venus. More importantly, he didn't even have any scientific data to back his claims. All he had were liberally reinterpreted mythological stories and a megalomaniacal desire for self promotion. -- __________________________________________________ ___ Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com) "It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow' disease, and many others, but I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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August 30th 03, 06:44 PM
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The Late, Great Immanuel Velikovsky, This One's for YOU!
"Ed Conrad" wrote in message
... If all of these samples are coming from your one area, then I have to assume that you've found an older pocket that was folded in between a layer of coal that folded over on itself. (Over the course of millions of years, you'd be surprised how plastic the Earth is.) If you can show me lots of samples from lots of areas, all below veins of coal. And you can show me the test results that proves these samples are actually fossils and not just funny shaped rocks, you might have something. Of course you can't and you don't.
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August 30th 03, 09:52 PM
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The Late, Great Immanuel Velikovsky, This One's for YOU! -Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA
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August 30th 03, 10:04 PM
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The Late, Great Immanuel Velikovsky, This One's for YOU! -Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA
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August 30th 03, 11:07 PM
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Weekly World News -Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA
"Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA"
wrote in message ... says... Ya know, posting to Weekly World News doesn't really get you any respect in the sci.skeptic ng, What? You mean those stories aren't true????? Their moto (like many theists) is "It could've happened." Marc
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