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Old August 22nd 07, 04:22 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics
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Default Science out the window when it comes to political issues like "gun control" and Global Warming!


"mrbawana2u" wrote
Anarchy - no government- is on the right.


Anarchy is death. And as is self evident, KKKonservatism is an ideology
of death.




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Old August 30th 07, 01:17 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics
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"columbiaaccidentinvestigation"
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Temperature graphed with respect to time from data of vostok ice core,
please not top left corner of graph were previous spikes dropped down,
and the most recent historical spike is staying elevated.
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/temp/vo.../tempplot5.gif


Note the slight temperature decline over the last interglacial, and how in
the last several decades, global average temperatures have risen above the
highest fluctuaion in the last interglacial.


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Old August 30th 07, 01:20 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics
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Shut up retard.


Oh, God, it's a another Moron Bill Oreilly clone.

It's mother should have strangled it with its umbilical cord.


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Old August 30th 07, 01:24 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics
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"Bill Ward" wrote
But correlation does not prove causation. The cross correlation
between the temperature and CO2 shows (95% confidence) the CO2 would have
to go back in time more than 400 years to cause the temperature rise. I


While time travel may appeal to Billy, here is what science has to say
about attribution.

Greenhouse Gases Likely Drove Near-record U.S. Warmth In 2006

Greenhouse gases likely accounted for over half of the widespread warmth
across the continental United States in 2006, according to a new study that
will be published 5 September in Geophysical Research Letters, a publication
of the American Geophysical Union.


Each of the 48 continental states experienced above-normal annual
temperatures in 2006. For the majority of states, 2006 ranked among the 10
hottest years since 1895. (Credit: NOAA)Ads by Google Advertise on this site

Last year’s average temperature was the second highest since recordkeeping
began in 1895. The team found that it was very unlikely that the 2006 El
Niño played any role, though other natural factors likely contributed to the
near-record warmth.

When average annual temperature in the United States broke records in 1998,
a powerful El Niño was affecting climate around the globe. Scientists widely
attributed the unusual warmth in the United States to the influence of the
ongoing El Niño. El Niño is a warming of the surface of the east tropical
Pacific Ocean.

The research team, led by Paul Hoerling at the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Earth System Research Lab in Boulder,
Colorado, also found that greenhouse gas increases in Earth’s atmosphere
enhanced the probability of U.S. temperatures breaking a record in 2006 by
approximately 15-fold compared to pre-industrial times.

The authors also estimate that there is a 16 percent chance that 2007 will
bring record-breaking warmth.“We wanted to find out whether it was pure
coincidence that the two warmest years on record both coincided with El Niño
events,” Hoerling said. “We decided to quantify the impact of El Niño and
compare it to the human influence on temperatures through greenhouse gases.”

Preliminary data available in January 2006 led NOAA to place that year as
the warmest on record. In May 2007,NOAA revised the 2006 ranking to second
warmest after updated statistics showed the year was .08 F cooler than 1998.
The annual average temperature in 2006 was 2.1 F above the 20th Century
average and marked the ninth consecutive year of above-normal U.S.
temperatures.

Each of the contiguous 48 states reported above-normal annual temperatures,
and for the majority of states, 2006 ranked among the 10 hottest years since
1895. Using data from 10 past El Niño events observed since 1965, the
authors examined the impact of El Niño on average annual U.S. surface
temperatures. They found a slight cooling across the country.

To overcome uncertainties inherent in the data analysis, the team also
studied the El Niño influence using two atmospheric climate models. The
scientists conducted two sets of 50-year simulations of U.S. climate, with
and without the influence of El Niño sea-surface warming. They again found a
slight cooling across the nation when El Niño was present.

To assess the role of greenhouse gases in the 2006 warmth, the researchers
analyzed 42 simulations of Earth's climate from 18 climate models provided
for the latest assessment by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
(IPCC).The models included greenhouse gas emissions and airborne particles
in Earth's atmosphere since the late 19th century and computed their
influence on average temperatures through 2006.

The results of the analysis showed that greenhouse gases produced warmth
over the entire United States in the model projections, much like the
warming pattern that was observed last year across the country.For a final
check, the scientists compared the observed 2006 pattern of abnormal surface
temperatures to the projected effects of greenhouse-gas warming and El Niño
temperature responses.

The U.S. temperature pattern of widespread warming was completely
inconsistent with the pattern expected from El Niño, but it closely matched
the expected effects of greenhouse warming.“That attribution was not
confirmed at the time,” says Hoerling. “Now we have the capability, on the
spatial scaleof the United States, to better distinguish natural climate
variations from climate changes caused by humans.” The research was
supported by NOAA's office of Global Programs.

Citation: Hoerling, M., et al. (2007), Explaining the record US warmth of
2006, Geophys. Res. Lett., 34, In press (TBD), doi:10.1029/2006GL0030643.



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Old July 25th 08, 11:38 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics
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Derek Lyons wrote:
Tell a big lie and half the people will believe you,
Tell a bigger lie and everybody will believe you.


That's very close to what Joseph Goebbels said:

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/-if_...ng/345877.html

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such
time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic
and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally
important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for
the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the
truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

George Orwell couldn't have phrased that better himself...that's
straight out of the "1984" world.


Pat
 




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