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Old August 9th 08, 01:38 PM posted to sci.space.history
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OM wrote:
...I assume you haven't seen the recent "reimaging" that added an
extra 10K to that figure, the one from the dips who put out that "I Am
Omega" drek just before "The Fresh Prince Legend" came out?


I avoid all but the Disney one.
Once you've had steak, you are not overly enthused by meatloaf.
If someone did it right (they wouldn't, of course) there's real
potential of making a miniseries on Nemo's life, tracing it all the way
from his youth to his part in the Sepoy Mutiny through "20,000 Leagues
Under The Sea", and then to "Mysterious Island".
The character gets discussed he
http://maddy06.blogspot.com/2007/12/...anslation.html
How that 16,000 meter figure came about is a interesting story in its
own right that's recounted in my annotated version of the book. There
had been attempts to drop plumb lines down to the deepest ocean depths,
but with no success - despite going past 15,000 meters. The problem was
the weight of the line attached to the plummet weight that made it
appear that the weight was never reaching bottom, as the line just kept
paying out under its own weight.
The solution was to let the line pretty much free-fall through the ocean
with markings on it every 600 feet (100 fathoms), that the scientists
could count as they went past. When the rate of payout suddenly
decreased, the plummet had hit bottom.

Pat
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Old August 9th 08, 04:35 PM posted to sci.space.history
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OM wrote:

...Or a giant squid who'd happened to stop and take a nap :-P


That's too deep, even for them.
Spooky thought next time you are swimming in the ocean... there have
been live giant squid caught in fishnets that were only around ten to
twenty feet underwater.
I mean, sharks are bad enough without getting grabbed by something like
that.
Here, Japanese (it would be Japanese, wouldn't it? The whole population
has some odd magnetic effect on monsters. :-D ) scientists get one up
to the surface, showing that they really do turn red when ****ed off:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1NUbthNkxc
Luckily, as long as you don't go swimming near Antarctica you can avoid
this thing, which makes the giant squid look like a piker:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-JRz1Rwh6M&NR=1
The new one is a female, not a male; they are presently getting ready to
put it on display:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10525778

Pat
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Old August 9th 08, 05:56 PM posted to sci.space.history
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 07:38:43 -0500, Pat Flannery
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When the rate of payout suddenly
decreased, the plummet had hit bottom.


....Or a giant squid who'd happened to stop and take a nap :-P

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Old August 9th 08, 06:02 PM posted to sci.space.history
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 07:38:43 -0500, Pat Flannery
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Once you've had steak, you are not overly enthused by meatloaf.


....Depends on whether or not Jim Steinman's writing his songs, or if
he's hacking his own.

If someone did it right (they wouldn't, of course) there's real
potential of making a miniseries on Nemo's life, tracing it all the way
from his youth to his part in the Sepoy Mutiny through "20,000 Leagues
Under The Sea", and then to "Mysterious Island".


....ISTR that one of the "Classics Illustrated" stories tried to link
Nemo with "The Master of the World" in one panel as well. Nemo's one
of those classic anti-hero neo-villains that you automatically
sympathize with simply because his intentions are just even though his
medness to the mathod are so totally off-base that they negate any
benefits when employed outside of his immediate sphere of influence.
Had Nemo simply been content in keeping he and his crew to themselves,
they'd have easily lived in peace. But that's the problem with
building a utopia for altruistic reasons; there's this mechanism that
kicks into play that says if those outside the utopia can't come in
and join the party, then it's in their best interests for you to go
out and *force* them to crash it whether they want to or not.

Damn, a unficational Nemo mega-tale would be right up Roy Thomas'
alley. Wonder if he'd consider it for Marvel's new "Classics
Illustrated" line, or would that be too original and not a classic?

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Old August 9th 08, 06:33 PM posted to sci.space.history
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OM wrote:
from his youth to his part in the Sepoy Mutiny through "20,000 Leagues


Under The Sea", and then to "Mysterious Island".


...ISTR that one of the "Classics Illustrated" stories tried to link
Nemo with "The Master of the World" in one panel as well. Nemo's one
of those classic anti-hero neo-villains that you automatically
sympathize with simply because his intentions are just even though his
medness to the mathod are so totally off-base that they negate any
benefits when employed outside of his immediate sphere of influence.
Had Nemo simply been content in keeping he and his crew to themselves,
they'd have easily lived in peace.


The fact that the Nautilus has a ram on the front doesn't exactly
indicate is was intended for peaceful oceanographic exploration.
In the book he also uses the sub to cut several sperm whales apart
because he doesn't like their looks.
A little odd in the head, that Nemo.
That fact sort of eludes Prof. Aronnax, as does the fact that "Captain
Nemo" is actually ....PROFESSOR JAMES MORIARTY!:
http://www.pjfarmer.com/secret/contr...UBTERFUGE2.htm

Pat

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Old August 10th 08, 01:31 PM posted to sci.space.history
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On Aug 10, 1:33*am, Pat Flannery wrote:

In the book he also uses the sub to cut several sperm whales apart
because he doesn't like their looks.
A little odd in the head, that Nemo.


Research!
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Old August 11th 08, 02:15 AM posted to sci.space.history
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Neil Gerace wrote:


In the book he also uses the sub to cut several sperm whales apart
because he doesn't like their looks.
A little odd in the head, that Nemo.


Research!


Yeah...that will work as a reason, won't it?
But only if we kill just a few each year.
The sperm whales were attacking a pod of southern right whales*, so Nemo
had at them.
This even shakes up the Canadian harpooner, Ned Land, and the scene of
the Nautilus surfacing a sea of blood and convulsing sperm whale halves
and entrails is oddly one that never made it into the Disney version. ;-)

* No, they don't do that...killer whales do that though.

Pat

 




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