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And this is supposedly the ultra best of our supposedly private fly-by-
rocket expertise that we have to offer. Good thing for their job security that it was directly and indirectly public funded. Pink slips anyone? ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Damon Hill wrote: "Alan Erskine" wrote in news:UD9lk.25133 : Even though I can't see the launch, all the very best. Looks like a launch failure. There was visible roll oscillation after the first minute, but during first stage operation. Video went off and SpaceX's announcers don't have a clue. We'll have to wait for the failure analysis, but I'm guessing there was a guidance system problem from the oscillations. --Damon |
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On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:15:01 -0500, Damon Hill
wrote: (Scott Stevenson) wrote in : At about T +4 minutes, you can start to see some oscillation of the second stage engine bell--it's making small clockwise circles at just under one rev per second. They didn't seem to get much faster, but the oscillations certainly got bigger during the remainder of the flight. Also, I'm certainly no expert, but at first stage separation, there seemed to be a lot of yaw in the rocket before the second stage lit. I don't know if the first stage didn't separate cleanly, or what, but it just looked odd. You must have been looking at video of the second launch last year. In that case, the separation was "dirty" and knocked the upper stage off-attitude before guidance reasserted control. On this, the third launch attempt, it was stated that the two stages completely failed to separate at all, ending the mission. While I definitely saw roll oscillation during ascent, it was stated that first stage operation was 'normal' right up to main engine shutdown. The shutdown was not shown on the video feed, which was apparently delayed-broadcast. Ah, the live broadcast, and grabbed what I thought was the correct video. It sounds like I had the right diagnosis, but the wrong patient :-) take care, Scott |
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tatelephone, Pat Flannery wrote: Anyway, the ashes of Scotty and Gordon Cooper now lie in a watery grave, along with those of 206 other people. The headline will read "208 Dead in Rocket Failure". Better luck next time. Crash and learn. -- David M. Palmer (formerly @clark.net, @ematic.com) |
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David M. Palmer wrote: Anyway, the ashes of Scotty and Gordon Cooper now lie in a watery grave, along with those of 206 other people. The headline will read "208 Dead in Rocket Failure". Better luck next time. Crash and learn. Last time I checked, 208 minus 2 leaves 206 other people. Pat |
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Pat Flannery wrote: Last time I checked, 208 minus 2 leaves 206 other people. Now I realize what you're driving at, minus a smiley, friend. But you do not seem one of the body of Landru, do you, friend? Herbert! Liberal Lawyer, come to me! :-D Pat |
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On Aug 4, 1:11*pm, "David M. Palmer" wrote:
The headline will read "208 Dead in Rocket Failure". "We've got guys down in our photo labs working through the night to put together a genuine photograph." |
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Neil Gerace wrote: The headline will read "208 Dead in Rocket Failure". "We've got guys down in our photo labs working through the night to put together a genuine photograph." Seriously, I imagine the family's of some of the dead are none-too-keen on the idea that their loved ones are now in the depths of the Pacific rather than the depths of space. On the other hand if the ashes are sealed in some sort of lightweight containers, they may be bobbing around out there somewhere and may wash up on a beach someday. Pat |
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It won't console anyone, but fewer people have been to the bottom of
the ocean than have been into space. |
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