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Ralph Hertle wrote:
Where can a catalog of Lord Rayleigh's scientific work be found? At what university or laboratory did he work? Possibly there? Royal Institution Proceedings Rayleigh's Scientific Papers Cambridge, UK: Cambridge Press |
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In message , Ralph Hertle
writes Bert: You probably know that Raleigh demonstrated in the laboratory and proved that the energy level of the photon is reduced in an inelastic process when a photon collides with a hydrogen atom. He further stated that the process that he demonstrated in his laboratory was a possible explanation for the apparent "Red Shift" (of frequencies in spectrograph displays). You've raised this before, and you haven't addressed the point that the red shift is completely independent of frequency. -- "Forty millions of miles it was from us, more than forty millions of miles of void" Remove spam and invalid from address to reply. |
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In message , Ralph Hertle
writes Bert: You probably know that Raleigh demonstrated in the laboratory and proved that the energy level of the photon is reduced in an inelastic process when a photon collides with a hydrogen atom. He further stated that the process that he demonstrated in his laboratory was a possible explanation for the apparent "Red Shift" (of frequencies in spectrograph displays). You've raised this before, and you haven't addressed the point that the red shift is completely independent of frequency. -- "Forty millions of miles it was from us, more than forty millions of miles of void" Remove spam and invalid from address to reply. |
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Ralph I have never read any papers that Lord Raleigh wrote. I never
heard of him. Is he an ancestor of Sir Walter Raleigh? He sounds very British. Well I do know falling in a gravity field adds energy to photons,and maybe if we can figure out where this added energy comes from in the field it could tell us something. Bert |
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Ralph I have never read any papers that Lord Raleigh wrote. I never
heard of him. Is he an ancestor of Sir Walter Raleigh? He sounds very British. Well I do know falling in a gravity field adds energy to photons,and maybe if we can figure out where this added energy comes from in the field it could tell us something. Bert |
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GR tells us there is a sameness in magnetic fields,and gravity fields.
Magnetis fields in motion create the energy of electricity. Objects in motion create gravity energy(waves). There is almost a paradox here. We feel the force of gravity all the time(our weight),and yet can't find its wave. With EM force its very much stronger,but we don't feel or see it all the time. EM waves are so easy to detect,our eyes,and a small antenna. Could it be that EM waves being so powerful they block out gravity waves?. I equate this like seeing Mars in day light. Bert |
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GR tells us there is a sameness in magnetic fields,and gravity fields.
Magnetis fields in motion create the energy of electricity. Objects in motion create gravity energy(waves). There is almost a paradox here. We feel the force of gravity all the time(our weight),and yet can't find its wave. With EM force its very much stronger,but we don't feel or see it all the time. EM waves are so easy to detect,our eyes,and a small antenna. Could it be that EM waves being so powerful they block out gravity waves?. I equate this like seeing Mars in day light. Bert |
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We Have LISA,and LIGO for gravity wave detection. It does it by the use
of mirrors. Now my theory of gravity comes out of the quantum realm,and uncertainty rules there. I think LIGO,and LISA will "probably" bring the reality of uncertainty into the macro realm. Bert PS Since LISA,and LIGO are trying to detect such very weak gravity waves can we make use of them as telescopes to detect very weak light waves? |
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We Have LISA,and LIGO for gravity wave detection. It does it by the use
of mirrors. Now my theory of gravity comes out of the quantum realm,and uncertainty rules there. I think LIGO,and LISA will "probably" bring the reality of uncertainty into the macro realm. Bert PS Since LISA,and LIGO are trying to detect such very weak gravity waves can we make use of them as telescopes to detect very weak light waves? |
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Bert asks,
Since LISA,and LIGO are trying to detect such very weak gravity waves can we make use of them as telescopes to detect very weak light waves? Bert, two entirely different regimes are involved here. Light (EM radiation) is a transverse wave, while 'gravity wave' (GW) radiation is longitudinal, that is, a compression-rarefaction wave exactly analogous to a sound wave. A GW detector is actually a highly specialized acoustic mircrophone. It's a wholly different critter than EM-detecting telescopes. LIGO is a ground-based GW 'microphone' system, which handicaps it with having to contend with lots of tectonic/ seismic and man-made noise. So what'd be ideal is a space-based system far away from all this 'ground noise'. That's exactly what LISA is. Like LIGO, it's a long-baseline interferometer, but out in a pure and pristine GW environment. Here's a couple of nice sites on LISA (but note that a clear-cut distinction is still not being made between gravitation and 'gravity waves')- http://spaceplace.jpl.nasa.gov/lisa_fact2.htm and http://www.space.com/missionlaunches...es_000727.html oc |
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