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Scott Hedrick wrote: "Pat Flannery" wrote in message ... LBJ- Vietnam. GWB- Iraq. FDR- WW2 Won. Lincoln- War of Southern Aggression Don't you mean "War Of Northern Aggression"? That's what my friend The Secess Cannonball* called it. Won. Truman- Korea Won or stalemate, depending on whether it was fought to keep south free, or destroy communism in north. If fought to stop aggression by North Korea, then won. Tyler- Mexico Won. This is where present Texas came from BTW. Wilson- WW1 Won. And so on and so forth... Vietnam- lost. Iraq- who knows? This side of a miracle, lost. * "...and till this day when you walk by that grave you may hear a voice, deep and booming, coming out of the ground...'How Stands The Union?' it shall ask...and you'd better answer: 'Rust bottomed and rotten timbered, teetering on the edge and ready to fall, decayed and corrupted as the body of the great ape Lincoln!' or he's liable to rise right up out of the ground and come at you with a mighty rebel yell!" -"The Devil and Rudy Wilmer" Pat |
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Pat Flannery wrote:
This is the Japanese WW II Bushido mindset in action... Here's Union Gen. H. V. Boynton on the storming of Missionary Ridge at Chattanooga: "Eighty-nine regiments rush for the earthworks at the base of the ridge -- every soldier like an arrow shot from a string which had been drawn to its full tension.... Riflemen in the Confederate earthworks and belching batteries above pelted them with the varied hail of battle. The sun swung low over the ridge. It never looked in all its shining over battlefields upon a more imposing rush. Two miles and a half of gleaming rifle-barrels, line after line of them, and more than a hundred and fifty banners, state and national, blossoming along the advance. Not a straggler, only the killed and wounded, dropped from the ranks. They swept over the lower earthworks, capturing many prisoners, and...swarmed up the slopes. The colors rushed in advance, and the men crowded towards the banners. Each regiment became a wedge-shaped mass, the flags at the cutting edge cleaving the way to the summit. Without faltering, without a stay, the flags went on, -- not long, it is sadly true, in the same hands, but always in willing hands..." Many years ago, when I first read that, it brought tears to my eyes. And then, when I'd wiped them away, I thought: gee, just like Pickett's charge, that sounds remarkably like the "human wave... they place little value on human life" attacks of the Japanese in WWII or Chinese in Korea or Iranians in the Gulf War or... |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 06:31:36 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote: Tyler- Mexico Won. This is where present Texas came from BTW. ....Uh, not exactly. Texas won its independence w/o direct help from the US in 1836. They simply joined the Union under Tyler, especially after Tyler - a States' Rights advocate - allowed the clause that permitted Texas to leave the Union any damn time they wish if the Union started ****ing up. OM -- ]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 06:31:36 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote: Tyler- Mexico Won. This is where present Texas came from BTW. ....Oh, and one other correction: the whole war w/Mexico came about under Polk, not Tyler, and it was over California and New Mexico. OM -- ]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ |
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OM wrote:
especially after Tyler - a States' Rights advocate - allowed the clause that permitted Texas to leave the Union any damn time they wish if the Union started ****ing up. I think this particular notion is OM's answer to Giovanni Abrate's "lost cosmonauts". :-) Jim Davis |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 05:18:10 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote: So they didn't tell them that... the told them it would take a few weeks or months, cost around 50 billion dollars and everybody would be home for Christmas. In short, they either: A.) Completely ****ed up as to what the war would entail, indicating gross incompetence on their part. or: B.) Realized what it would entail, and lied about it. ....Or C.) Realized what needed to be done, but refused to do so in order to make money off of it as long as possible. ....Face it, kids: drop one well-placed nuke in the middle of Iran, and you can guarantee that all the "Allah Akbar" crap would go the way Bushido went when Hiroshima and Nagasaki became Crispy Critter Estates. Only one would be necessary because most of those people over in that part of the world have had enough education to have heard what a nuke can do, and all they'd need is one demonstration to separate the myth from reality. One nuke, 500' over Tehran to maximize the precursor wave, carried live on CNN. OM -- ]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:12:19 -0500, OM wrote:
...Face it, kids: drop one well-placed nuke in the middle of Iran, and you can guarantee that all the "Allah Akbar" crap would go the way Bushido went when Hiroshima and Nagasaki became Crispy Critter Estates. Only one would be necessary because most of those people over in that part of the world have had enough education to have heard what a nuke can do, and all they'd need is one demonstration to separate the myth from reality. Two things... 1. While Iran has not been the nicest of neighbors, neither has it spent the last few decades making every last one of its neighbors hate it with a truly lethal passion. Japan pulled that stunt. 2. Unlike the Bushido code, Islam is a major religion with adherents worldwide. OM -- Chuck Stewart "Anime-style catgirls: Threat? Menace? Or just studying algebra?" |
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Pat Flannery wrote: Eric Chomko wrote: The Texas Mentality When faced with the choice of the world vs. the US, always choose the US. When faced with the choice of the US vs. Texas, always choose Texas. The problem now is that we have Texas vs. the world and the rest of the US is along for the ride. Like it or not! Consider the historical event that is basis of Texan pride: The Battle Of The Alamo. A group of Texans take over a basically indefensible strategic position which Santa Anna's forces could easily have bypassed in order to lure him into battle and hold him up till Sam Houston rides to their aid. Aiding them in this historic cause are many non-Texans, including Jim Bowie and Davy Crockett. When it becomes obvious that the Mexican forces vastly outnumber their own, the Alamo defenders do not retreat to a safer position, they hold their ground. When Santa Anna offers them surrender, they do not accept it, they hold their ground. They are then slaughtered to a man in battle. Then Sam Houston's forces do take on Santa Anna and win. What grand lessons does this teach the Texan mind? 1.) Texans are there to inspire people from other states to join them in their worthy cause. 2.) It's worth losing if you can even temporarily hold the enemy up, and inflict some harm on him. 3.) Real men don't retreat even when the situation is hopeless. 4.) Nor do they ever surrender, no matter what the alternative is. 5.) As long as everyone is brave enough to die, victory will surely come shortly. I think it has more to do with San Antonio than it does Texas. In fact when one walks along the Riverwalk area one doesn't get the feeling of being in Texas. San Antonio is unique. I even tell Texans that they can have Dallas, Houston and El Paso but that they must share San Antonio with us Yankees! Gets their goad every single time! A lot of this sounds familiar. This is the Japanese WW II Bushido mindset in action: If we are all extraordinarily brave and take extraordinary risks, the gods will reward us with sure victory; in fact the more willing to die, and in fact the more of us that die, the more sure that victory will become. Every setback is not a setback, but merely shows that we haven't been brave enough yet- the more desperate and hopeless the situation the greater the opportunity for glory on our parts. No retreat! No surrender! Better to die to the last man than face the ignominy of having shown cowardice in the face of the enemy! We all remember how well that whole strategy played out for Japan when it was actually put into action... mass pointless banzai charges slaughtering their troops that could have resisted for far longer if properly used and strategically withdrawn when the enemy showed overwhelming strength. But the Texan mindset is fixed- when your greatest heroes were the slaughtered of the Alamo, and most historically defining event a bloody military defeat, then the bloodier the battle the better! To do any less would be a betrayal of your Texan soul. Surely, if we just keep it up enough and keep escalating more and more, no matter what the losses, then sooner or later Sam Houston will come riding to our rescue and a great victory will be ours! If not, then we went down fighting! So if things don't go right in Vietnam, then it's time to try harder, no matter what the casualty figures are like. Victory is inevitable with enough time, courage, and blood. And if things don't go right in Iraq, the same rule applies. It just takes more effort and sacrifice on our parts- the basic concept is certainly not unsound. Vietnam and Iraq were/are over there, The Alamo was right here. But our enemy is using a different battleplan- strike, withdraw, regroup, strike again at a different point; never attack your enemy where he is, attack him where he isn't. Bypass him, cut him off, avoid direct large scale battles at all costs unless absolutely necessary, and then whenever possible only when you are completely sure of a swift victory that immediately advantages your strategic position. Always keep your forces intact, even if it means retreating. Sound familiar? What if the guy saying it was smoking a corncob pipe, wearing sunglasses, and had a really unkempt looking General's hat on? What if the guy saying it long before him later became our country's first president? Right now, our Iraqi "green zones" are like Japanese held Pacific islands- they are mighty formidable, but hell to supply with all those insurgent submarines lurking out there...and the insurgents aren't playing fair by not doing a manly direct attack on us, the way that decent Texans would. It shows their cowardice and inferiority... mind you they might win this way, but the moral victory would surely be ours, and that's worth dying for. And besides, their victory would be short-lived, as at any moment God is going to come riding over the hill with six angelic battalions of the Army Of The Republic Of Texas behind him...provided of course that we show that we are _worthy_ of His aid by holding the fort no matter what the cost. Remember the Alamo was a church, and he obviously saw what was going on their, and intervened against the Godless Spanish. But no, it's up to Texas to show us all the rest of how to as great of men as Texan's are, and if that means dying to the last man, so be it. Makes me wonder what percentage of the names on the Vietnam Memorial near the DC Mall are from Texas? The latest political line out of Washington is how unfortunate it was that the people in power didn't tell the American public just how long and costly in both lives and treasure the war in Iraq would be, so that they would be ready for what has transpired since it began. This is a very novel argument...because if they had told the public that it would take years upon years, cost them over 300 billion dollars, and send back thousands of their sons and daughters in body bags, as more and more Ready Reserve and National Guard members were called up, the American people would have told them to go **** themselves and the horse they rode in on. So they didn't tell them that... the told them it would take a few weeks or months, cost around 50 billion dollars and everybody would be home for Christmas. In short, they either: A.) Completely ****ed up as to what the war would entail, indicating gross incompetence on their part. or: B.) Realized what it would entail, and lied about it. Notice how defiant Bush gets about not bringing the troops home during his tenure as president and leaving it to someone else? Eric Pat |
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On 24 Aug 2006 11:45:43 -0700, in a place far, far away, "Eric Chomko"
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: I think it has more to do with San Antonio than it does Texas. In fact when one walks along the Riverwalk area one doesn't get the feeling of being in Texas. San Antonio is unique. I even tell Texans that they can have Dallas, Houston and El Paso but that they must share San Antonio with us Yankees! Gets their goad every single time! It never gets their "goad" (or their goat, either). It just makes them think, as the rest of us do, that you're an idiot. |
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Rand Simberg wrote: On 24 Aug 2006 11:45:43 -0700, in a place far, far away, "Eric Chomko" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: I think it has more to do with San Antonio than it does Texas. In fact when one walks along the Riverwalk area one doesn't get the feeling of being in Texas. San Antonio is unique. I even tell Texans that they can have Dallas, Houston and El Paso but that they must share San Antonio with us Yankees! Gets their goad every single time! It never gets their "goad" (or their goat, either). It just makes them think, as the rest of us do, that you're an idiot. You are way too much of a dumb gringo to think that you speak for the average citizen of San Antonio. I put you on par with the average ****-kicker dirt farmer too damn dumb to know he's got oil on his land before he sells said land to a carpetbagger like George Bush and Company. Eric |
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