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Multiple interceptor ABMs
Remember how we told Russia not to be concerned about that little ABM
system we want to install in eastern Europe, as there would only be ten missiles? Well, guess what? Ten ABMs may well mean considerably more than ten interceptor vehicles: http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...V&channel=awst Pat |
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Pat Flannery wrote:
: :Remember how we told Russia not to be concerned about that little ABM :system we want to install in eastern Europe, as there would only be ten :missiles? :Well, guess what? Ten ABMs may well mean considerably more than ten :interceptor vehicles: :http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...V&channel=awst : Which really doesn't matter, as they are STILL in the wrong place to intercept missiles flying from Russia to the US. -- "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar territory." --G. Behn |
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On Jun 2, 10:17 am, Pat Flannery wrote:
Well, guess what? Ten ABMs may well mean considerably more than ten interceptor vehicles:http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...s/aw060208p1.x... It's not at all clear that, even with MKV, you could target a single GBI against more than one ICBM. The MKVs are meant to handle the possibly large number of objects dispensed by an ICBM: RVs and decoys and other penaids. In fact, it seems likely that the firing doctrine will still call for launching at least two GBIs against each ICBM in order to allow for boost-phase failures. So 10 GBI = 5 ICBM. |
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On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:17:33 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote: Remember how we told Russia not to be concerned about that little ABM system we want to install in eastern Europe, as there would only be ten missiles? Well, guess what? Ten ABMs may well mean considerably more than ten interceptor vehicles: http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...V&channel=awst Pat There is no way in hell the KVs have enough cross-range ability to be chasing multiple missiles. They are strictly to go after decoys to raise the odds of killing warheads. |
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Fred J. McCall wrote: Pat Flannery wrote: : :Remember how we told Russia not to be concerned about that little ABM :system we want to install in eastern Europe, as there would only be ten :missiles? :Well, guess what? Ten ABMs may well mean considerably more than ten :interceptor vehicles: :http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...V&channel=awst : Which really doesn't matter, as they are STILL in the wrong place to intercept missiles flying from Russia to the US. But not in the wrong place to intercept missiles flying from Russia into Europe. We say they are to intercept missiles flying from Iran into Europe or the US... then we also say that we are never going to let Iran have IRBMs or ICBMs....so building the European ABM system is basically sending them the message that we expect them to develop such systems and aren't going to stop them when they do...so they can go ahead and develop them without us stopping them. That's a great example of the kind of "left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing" logic the Bush administration is noted for. Who is our ally in the war on terror? Pakistan. Who developed the nuclear weapons technology that got leaked to Iran, Syria, and North Korea? Pakistan. Who is our Arab friend in the Mideast? Saudi Arabia. Where did the majority of the hijackers in the 911 attack come from? Saudi Arabia. Where has heroin production gone through the roof? Afghanistan. Who has large military forces in Afghanistan, the ability to spot poppy fields via satellite or unmanned drones, and yet does nothing to eradicate the poppy fields via military means? Us, of course. Pat |
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sferrin wrote: There is no way in hell the KVs have enough cross-range ability to be chasing multiple missiles. They are strictly to go after decoys to raise the odds of killing warheads. How do you think the Russians are going to view this? They didn't like the idea when it was just ten missiles, and this doesn't help things much. We keep pushing them enough on this, and just for the sake of national pride they might do something around the time that ABM base starts getting built. People say: "Oh, what will they do? This is no threat to them."....without remembering that the Soviets had no idea that we were going to go completely bonkers when we found out that they were installing nuclear missiles in Cuba. Around the time the concrete starts getting poured on that Polish launch site it might get bombed. They keep telling us they don't like this idea one bit, and we keep ignoring them. That's how wars get started. We say the reason the base is so far east is to protect Europe also. If that's the case then let Europe build it and pay for it - both in a monetary and political sense. From a strategic point of view, it would be best to get it as near to the prospective launch point as possible, so that the missiles could be intercepted as shortly after liftoff as possible, and before they deploy decoys and penaids. Since this missile are supposed to be coming from Iran or Syria, a ABM base in Turkey would not only be more effective, but remove the problems Russia has with it. Russia even offered us a radar base to use in their southeastern region, but of course we turned them down. Which doesn't exactly assuage their concerns over the ABM system being aimed at them, and not rogue Mideastern states. Pat |
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On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:51:50 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote: Where has heroin production gone through the roof? Afghanistan. ....Yes, but according to junkies worldwide, the quality of smack hasn't been this good since before the Soviets invaded the place. Which just goes to show you that unless it's vodka, communism will always ruin the quality of recreational consumables :-) OM -- ]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ |
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On Jun 2, 5:00 pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
sferrin wrote: There is no way in hell the KVs have enough cross-range ability to be chasing multiple missiles. They are strictly to go after decoys to raise the odds of killing warheads. How do you think the Russians are going to view this? As some horribly complex conspiracy, as they seem to view *everything.* They didn't like the idea when it was just ten missiles... And the question is "why." , and this doesn't help things much. We keep pushing them enough on this, and just for the sake of national pride they might do something around the time that ABM base starts getting built. Gosh, you're right. They just might build their own tiny little ABM defense installation. The horror. |
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On Jun 2, 3:51 pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
Who is our Arab friend in the Mideast? Saudi Arabia. Who is our Anglo-Saxon friend in Europe? Britain. Where did the majority of the hijackers in the 12-21 attack come from? Britain. Where has heroin production gone through the roof? Afghanistan: former British colony Who has large military forces in Afghanistan, the ability to spot poppy fields via satellite or unmanned drones, and yet does nothing to eradicate the poppy fields via military means? Britain. Time to deal with the Brits, it seems. Along with their toadies the Canadians. Shifty, weaselly *******s, the lot of 'em. |
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