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Old February 25th 11, 05:15 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics.particle
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Default Paul Draper, what is mass, fundamentally?

On Feb 22, 12:15*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/21/11 11:18 PM, Tom Potter wrote:

As can be seen from history,


* *As can be seen from history
* *Potters postings are often quite blistery
* * *His physics quite mad
* * *His posting--so bad
* *Potter's anger is really no mystery


Hey, Sam! I wrote you a poem. Care to comment?

Sam Wormley is dense to perfection.
His ‘science’ puts teachers to shame.
Whatever his notions,
I know the counter-potions.
His status quo is not sweet confection!

(It is crap!)

— NoEinstein —
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Old February 28th 11, 12:30 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics.particle
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On Feb 21, 11:28*pm, Eric Gisse wrote:

For the same reason that Eric Gisse seldom comments concerning actual
science. Rather he——this physics flunk-out——denigrates the messenger
with claims that high school physics experiments, using air hockey
tables, substantiate KE = 1/2 mv^2 (sic). When are you going to
describe that experiment, Eric? It is a major Law of Nature not to
ever get out more pounds of "hamburger" than the pounds of steak
ground up. You've concurred with the latter. So, your precious KE =
1/2 mv^2 and E = mc^2/beta have been shot all to hell! — NE —

On Feb 21, 7:21*pm, NoEinstein wrote:

On Feb 20, 2:55*am, "Tom Potter" wrote:


"NoEinstein" wrote in message
...
On Feb 18, 1:10 am, "Tom Potter" wrote:


Dear Tom: *Philosophically, you and I agree more than disagree.
Leftist TV commercials trying to stem high school drop-outs showed a
Black male and stated: "A mind is a terrible thing to waste." *Barack
Obama supposes Blacks will elevate their status if government will
only assure that all Blacks get government-financed higher education..
But be it known: No more than the top 5% to 10% of High School
students should ever attend college! *Do most Blacks ever reach that
top group? *Ha, ha, HA!


The "riots" in Wisconsin over teacher cutbacks highlight how education
is at least 33.33% of the total threat to the survival of the USA.
The media and government make up the other 66.66%. *My solution to
most problems is to ELIMINATE a problem, rather than argue over it and
make any compromises. *Immediately FIRE 75% of those on government
payrolls, starting with teachers! *What most students "get" and carry
with them into life from education can be taught quite well in no more
than six years. *Education has this purpose: *To employ teachers and
to give those teachers undeserved pensions for life. *I literally GAG
every time I hear some candidate for public office talk about how more
money needs to be spent to improve the quality of education! *Until we
in this country are willing to wake up to the intolerable financial
drain that education is, we will keep doing down the slimy, stinking
tubes... *- NoEinstein - * AKA *John A. Armistead *(Search at Amazon
or at B. & N. to read my book: "The Shortest Distance; Harmony Through
Prosperity.")


I agree that government unions should not be allowed
as they are cancers that allow greedy, lazy people
to accumulate in government and use the power
of government to sreal from the productive people.


Cities and nations decay
when government employees get too greedy and too lazy,
( Which they always do.)
and the productive folks quit working
( Which they always do.)


when they see that freeloaders are stealing
the fruits of their labor and creativity.


Even during the Great Depression,
when most Americans were deprived of food, clothing and shelter, *
the teachers and government employees
kept demanding their salaries, benefits, raises, and work rules.


I like Obama and think that he is motivated to do good, *
but I was saddened to see him come out on the side
of the teachers.


Obama should used the Army
to get the teachers to obey the law
just as Hoover had General Douglas MacArthur
disperse the 'Bonus Army' in 1932.


It does not take a lot of physical force to
get greedy lazy freeloaders under control,
( Becaue in their heart they know they are greedy and lazy.)


but it will take a lot of force to destabilize
and re energize society
if the working people get too riled up.


http://www.historynet.com/the-bonus-...washington.htm


Personally I favor a "gaussian distribution"
approach to change,
rather than a "step function" approach
as there is no overshoot and ringing.
( Revolutions, resources wasted on conflicts, etc.)


Hopefully Obama is using the "gaussian distribution"
approach and will begin to apply force to
*get the lazy, greedy public sector under control.
If he doesn't America will continue to decay.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_filter


--
Tom Potter
-----------------http://www.prioritize.biz/http://voices.yuku.com/forums/66http://tdp1...


Tom: The employment motive of way too many is to get a cushy
government job and to squat on it for life. *Suppose a company hires
workers for needed jobs and those workers demand control of the
business? *It is never correct to have any person or group be above
being fired. *The education-is-important-to-our-children crap has
teachers controlling who can get elected. *I say: *FIRE 75% of
teachers, immediately, and switch to mostly electronic classrooms that
get results. *If teachers are so wise, they should be able to do some
actual WORK, rather than repeating lessons over and over like dull
robots. *Don't "bargain" with those who got undeserved perks from some
job. *Nix the perks, and kick the bums out! *— NE —


Why is right winger screed being posted to sci.* ?


  #253  
Old February 28th 11, 12:56 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics.particle
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On Feb 22, 12:18*am, "Tom Potter" wrote:

Dear Tom: Thank you for your most insightful overview of the negative
effects of empowering the lazy. What you just wrote should be
required reading for every leftist, socialist-communist loser in the
USA. For too long, politicians have known that they can get re
elected simply by making big promises of entitlements or government
services in exchange for votes. Probably 75% of the 90% of Blacks who
voted for Obama are perfectly capable of working and carrying their
own weight. But tradition has it that Blacks are expected to vote as
a block (bloc looks to be missing a letter). They call everyone not
FOR them, racist. When in fact, it is mostly the Blacks, themselves,
who are racist. Jews do the same thing by calling people anti
Semitic. My New Constitution levels-the-playing-field by stripping
groups of their power. Lobbying is made a felony. I don't
discriminate against any group accepting being treated with fairness.
But labor unions manage to get more for the members than is fair, so
those will be squelched. The only FAIR way to compensate people is in
direct proportion to their productivity at work. I realize that too
often, CEOs are compensated in direct proportion to how much money the
shareholders make. But FAIRNESS dictates that those in management be
compensated for the productivity and market share of the company. Too
often management has exploited the workers in order to make more money
for the shareholders. My New Constitution will punish any company not
being fair to its employees! And no "labor unions" nor dues-paying
will be required to make sure fairness reigns supreme. I've empowered
individuals. And that's the most powerful 'group' in the world! —
NoEinstein — AKA John A. Armistead

"NoEinstein" wrote in message

...

On Feb 20, 2:55 am, "Tom Potter" wrote:
"NoEinstein" wrote in message
....
On Feb 18, 1:10 am, "Tom Potter" wrote:


Dear Tom: Philosophically, you and I agree more than disagree.
Leftist TV commercials trying to stem high school drop-outs showed a
Black male and stated: "A mind is a terrible thing to waste." Barack
Obama supposes Blacks will elevate their status if government will
only assure that all Blacks get government-financed higher education.
But be it known: No more than the top 5% to 10% of High School
students should ever attend college! Do most Blacks ever reach that
top group? Ha, ha, HA!


The "riots" in Wisconsin over teacher cutbacks highlight how education
is at least 33.33% of the total threat to the survival of the USA.
The media and government make up the other 66.66%. My solution to
most problems is to ELIMINATE a problem, rather than argue over it and
make any compromises. Immediately FIRE 75% of those on government
payrolls, starting with teachers! What most students "get" and carry
with them into life from education can be taught quite well in no more
than six years. Education has this purpose: To employ teachers and
to give those teachers undeserved pensions for life. I literally GAG
every time I hear some candidate for public office talk about how more
money needs to be spent to improve the quality of education! Until we
in this country are willing to wake up to the intolerable financial
drain that education is, we will keep doing down the slimy, stinking
tubes... - NoEinstein - AKA John A. Armistead (Search at Amazon
or at B. & N. to read my book: "The Shortest Distance; Harmony Through
Prosperity.")


I agree that government unions should not be allowed
as they are cancers that allow greedy, lazy people
to accumulate in government and use the power
of government to sreal from the productive people.


Cities and nations decay
when government employees get too greedy and too lazy,
( Which they always do.)
and the productive folks quit working
( Which they always do.)


when they see that freeloaders are stealing
the fruits of their labor and creativity.


Even during the Great Depression,
when most Americans were deprived of food, clothing and shelter,
the teachers and government employees
kept demanding their salaries, benefits, raises, and work rules.


I like Obama and think that he is motivated to do good,
but I was saddened to see him come out on the side
of the teachers.


Obama should used the Army
to get the teachers to obey the law
just as Hoover had General Douglas MacArthur
disperse the 'Bonus Army' in 1932.


It does not take a lot of physical force to
get greedy lazy freeloaders under control,
( Becaue in their heart they know they are greedy and lazy.)


but it will take a lot of force to destabilize
and re energize society
if the working people get too riled up.


http://www.historynet.com/the-bonus-...washington.htm


Personally I favor a "gaussian distribution"
approach to change,
rather than a "step function" approach
as there is no overshoot and ringing.
( Revolutions, resources wasted on conflicts, etc.)


Hopefully Obama is using the "gaussian distribution"
approach and will begin to apply force to
get the lazy, greedy public sector under control.
If he doesn't America will continue to decay.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_filter


--
Tom Potter


Tom: The employment motive of way too many is to get a cushy
government job and to squat on it for life. *Suppose a company hires
workers for needed jobs and those workers demand control of the
business? *It is never correct to have any person or group be above
being fired. *The education-is-important-to-our-children crap has
teachers controlling who can get elected. *I say: *FIRE 75% of
teachers, immediately, and switch to mostly electronic classrooms that
get results. *If teachers are so wise, they should be able to do some
actual WORK, rather than repeating lessons over and over like dull
robots. *Don't "bargain" with those who got undeserved perks from some
job. *Nix the perks, and kick the bums out! *- NE -


As can be seen from history,
the situations in Third World Nations,
and the decay of America Inner Cities

lazy, greedy people accumulate in government
and use the power of government
to take more and more,
and give less and less,

and to avoid responsibility for their production,
and their errors, omissions, and crimes,

and this leads to the decay of the governments.

America, like all previous governments,
has been taken over by government employees
and is in free fall.

In a few decades
America will be a Third World nation,
where the masses are poor
and government employees are fat.

When greedy, non-productive people accumulate at the top
in monarchies, aristocracies, dictatorships,

and at the bottom in democrats and republics

that nation ceases to serve the people that
the government was created to serve.

What is going on in Wisconsin
is a revolution where
the working masses are rebelling against
greedy government employees and politicians.

Perhaps America can be saved
and I favor a "Gaussian distribution" approach to change,
rather than a "step function" approach
such as revolution or a coup.

Observe that when altruistic, productive people
control any form of government, it serves *the people.

The problem is not the kind of government,
but the kind of people who accumulate in government.

More focus should be placed in EDUCATION, media
and in society in general on the danger
of allowing greedy, non- productive people
to accumulate in government.

And of course the same principle applies to
free market companies, non profits, and to religions.

When greedy, non- productive people
to accumulate in ANY kind of organization,
it is not long for this world.

--
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Old February 28th 11, 12:59 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics.particle
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On Feb 22, 12:12*pm, maxwell wrote:

Dear Maxwell: Power lies, mostly, in the US Senate and in the...
Supreme Court. My New Constitution will immediately correct those two
errors of concept! — NoEinstein — AKA John A. Armistead

On Feb 21, 9:18*pm, "Tom Potter" wrote:

"NoEinstein" wrote in message


....


On Feb 20, 2:55 am, "Tom Potter" wrote:
"NoEinstein" wrote in message
...
On Feb 18, 1:10 am, "Tom Potter" wrote:


Dear Tom: Philosophically, you and I agree more than disagree.
Leftist TV commercials trying to stem high school drop-outs showed a
Black male and stated: "A mind is a terrible thing to waste." Barack
Obama supposes Blacks will elevate their status if government will
only assure that all Blacks get government-financed higher education.

  #255  
Old February 28th 11, 03:18 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics.particle
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Default Paul Draper, what is mass, fundamentally?

On Feb 21, 11:28*pm, Eric Gisse wrote:
On Feb 21, 7:21*pm, NoEinstein wrote:









On Feb 20, 2:55*am, "Tom Potter" wrote:


"NoEinstein" wrote in message
...
On Feb 18, 1:10 am, "Tom Potter" wrote:


Dear Tom: *Philosophically, you and I agree more than disagree.
Leftist TV commercials trying to stem high school drop-outs showed a
Black male and stated: "A mind is a terrible thing to waste." *Barack
Obama supposes Blacks will elevate their status if government will
only assure that all Blacks get government-financed higher education..
But be it known: No more than the top 5% to 10% of High School
students should ever attend college! *Do most Blacks ever reach that
top group? *Ha, ha, HA!


The "riots" in Wisconsin over teacher cutbacks highlight how education
is at least 33.33% of the total threat to the survival of the USA.
The media and government make up the other 66.66%. *My solution to
most problems is to ELIMINATE a problem, rather than argue over it and
make any compromises. *Immediately FIRE 75% of those on government
payrolls, starting with teachers! *What most students "get" and carry
with them into life from education can be taught quite well in no more
than six years. *Education has this purpose: *To employ teachers and
to give those teachers undeserved pensions for life. *I literally GAG
every time I hear some candidate for public office talk about how more
money needs to be spent to improve the quality of education! *Until we
in this country are willing to wake up to the intolerable financial
drain that education is, we will keep doing down the slimy, stinking
tubes... *- NoEinstein - * AKA *John A. Armistead *(Search at Amazon
or at B. & N. to read my book: "The Shortest Distance; Harmony Through
Prosperity.")


I agree that government unions should not be allowed
as they are cancers that allow greedy, lazy people
to accumulate in government and use the power
of government to sreal from the productive people.


Cities and nations decay
when government employees get too greedy and too lazy,
( Which they always do.)
and the productive folks quit working
( Which they always do.)


when they see that freeloaders are stealing
the fruits of their labor and creativity.


Even during the Great Depression,
when most Americans were deprived of food, clothing and shelter, *
the teachers and government employees
kept demanding their salaries, benefits, raises, and work rules.


I like Obama and think that he is motivated to do good, *
but I was saddened to see him come out on the side
of the teachers.


Obama should used the Army
to get the teachers to obey the law
just as Hoover had General Douglas MacArthur
disperse the 'Bonus Army' in 1932.


It does not take a lot of physical force to
get greedy lazy freeloaders under control,
( Becaue in their heart they know they are greedy and lazy.)


but it will take a lot of force to destabilize
and re energize society
if the working people get too riled up.


http://www.historynet.com/the-bonus-...washington.htm


Personally I favor a "gaussian distribution"
approach to change,
rather than a "step function" approach
as there is no overshoot and ringing.
( Revolutions, resources wasted on conflicts, etc.)


Hopefully Obama is using the "gaussian distribution"
approach and will begin to apply force to
*get the lazy, greedy public sector under control.
If he doesn't America will continue to decay.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_filter


--
Tom Potter
-----------------http://www.prioritize.biz/http://voices.yuku.com/forums/66http://tdp1...


Tom: The employment motive of way too many is to get a cushy
government job and to squat on it for life. *Suppose a company hires
workers for needed jobs and those workers demand control of the
business? *It is never correct to have any person or group be above
being fired. *The education-is-important-to-our-children crap has
teachers controlling who can get elected. *I say: *FIRE 75% of
teachers, immediately, and switch to mostly electronic classrooms that
get results. *If teachers are so wise, they should be able to do some
actual WORK, rather than repeating lessons over and over like dull
robots. *Don't "bargain" with those who got undeserved perks from some
job. *Nix the perks, and kick the bums out! *— NE —


Why is right winger screed being posted to sci.* ?


To irritate left-wingers (beggars) like poor little you. — NE —
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Old March 6th 11, 04:42 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics.particle
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On Feb 28, 9:18*am, NoEinstein wrote:
On Feb 21, 11:28*pm, Eric Gisse wrote:









On Feb 21, 7:21*pm, NoEinstein wrote:


On Feb 20, 2:55*am, "Tom Potter" wrote:


"NoEinstein" wrote in message
...
On Feb 18, 1:10 am, "Tom Potter" wrote:


Dear Tom: *Philosophically, you and I agree more than disagree.
Leftist TV commercials trying to stem high school drop-outs showed a
Black male and stated: "A mind is a terrible thing to waste." *Barack
Obama supposes Blacks will elevate their status if government will
only assure that all Blacks get government-financed higher education.
But be it known: No more than the top 5% to 10% of High School
students should ever attend college! *Do most Blacks ever reach that
top group? *Ha, ha, HA!


The "riots" in Wisconsin over teacher cutbacks highlight how education
is at least 33.33% of the total threat to the survival of the USA.
The media and government make up the other 66.66%. *My solution to
most problems is to ELIMINATE a problem, rather than argue over it and
make any compromises. *Immediately FIRE 75% of those on government
payrolls, starting with teachers! *What most students "get" and carry
with them into life from education can be taught quite well in no more
than six years. *Education has this purpose: *To employ teachers and
to give those teachers undeserved pensions for life. *I literally GAG
every time I hear some candidate for public office talk about how more
money needs to be spent to improve the quality of education! *Until we
in this country are willing to wake up to the intolerable financial
drain that education is, we will keep doing down the slimy, stinking
tubes... *- NoEinstein - * AKA *John A. Armistead *(Search at Amazon
or at B. & N. to read my book: "The Shortest Distance; Harmony Through
Prosperity.")


I agree that government unions should not be allowed
as they are cancers that allow greedy, lazy people
to accumulate in government and use the power
of government to sreal from the productive people.


Cities and nations decay
when government employees get too greedy and too lazy,
( Which they always do.)
and the productive folks quit working
( Which they always do.)


when they see that freeloaders are stealing
the fruits of their labor and creativity.


Even during the Great Depression,
when most Americans were deprived of food, clothing and shelter, *
the teachers and government employees
kept demanding their salaries, benefits, raises, and work rules.


I like Obama and think that he is motivated to do good, *
but I was saddened to see him come out on the side
of the teachers.


Obama should used the Army
to get the teachers to obey the law
just as Hoover had General Douglas MacArthur
disperse the 'Bonus Army' in 1932.


It does not take a lot of physical force to
get greedy lazy freeloaders under control,
( Becaue in their heart they know they are greedy and lazy.)


but it will take a lot of force to destabilize
and re energize society
if the working people get too riled up.


http://www.historynet.com/the-bonus-...washington.htm


Personally I favor a "gaussian distribution"
approach to change,
rather than a "step function" approach
as there is no overshoot and ringing.
( Revolutions, resources wasted on conflicts, etc.)


Hopefully Obama is using the "gaussian distribution"
approach and will begin to apply force to
*get the lazy, greedy public sector under control.
If he doesn't America will continue to decay.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_filter


--
Tom Potter
-----------------http://www.prioritize.biz/http://voices.yuku.com/forums/66http://tdp1...


Tom: The employment motive of way too many is to get a cushy
government job and to squat on it for life. *Suppose a company hires
workers for needed jobs and those workers demand control of the
business? *It is never correct to have any person or group be above
being fired. *The education-is-important-to-our-children crap has
teachers controlling who can get elected. *I say: *FIRE 75% of
teachers, immediately, and switch to mostly electronic classrooms that
get results. *If teachers are so wise, they should be able to do some
actual WORK, rather than repeating lessons over and over like dull
robots. *Don't "bargain" with those who got undeserved perks from some
job. *Nix the perks, and kick the bums out! *— NE —


Why is right winger screed being posted to sci.* ?


To irritate left-wingers (beggars) like poor little you. *— NE —


Folks, isn't it interesting how Sam Wormley and Eric Gisse suddenly
stop replying when I correctly peg their lies and science ignorance.
They are off licking-their-wounds, sure to strike again in vain. —
NoEinstein —
 




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