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On Oct 15, 7:50 am, wrote:
What is obvious to you Brad isn't obvious to others, and probably doesn't even exist in the form you imagine. These serve a bogey men for your imagination so that you don't have to look at yourself as the cause of all the problems in your life. This propensity to project onto 'them' all your problems is a common failing of most people to one degree or another, and is especially pronounced in certain mental disorders, like schizophrenia where there is a full blown personality split, and paranoia, where EVERYTHING is blamed on the illusory 'them'. Jim I am sure was referring to that possibility with my last reply where I didn't take care to speak succinctly. Now, the success of any magic trick stems from mis-direction. And good magicians know their audience and what they're likely to do under most conditions. And they craft fabulous illusions based on this knowledge. Secret agencies exist. Secret agencies in the US government exist. Secret agencies in the US government have likely existed which are responsible for managing the range of political and public discourse since the time of the Civil War. Secret agencies do not operate in the public eye. They operate in the shadows of public life and public thought. They are well aware of human failings. They no doubt exploit human failings to achieve whatever ends they set for themselves. It is easy to believe that they recognize that the propensity to blame others is strong in you obi-wan, and know precisely how to push your buttons and let you go against whatever target they have set up to marginalize or shut down in this public domain - again assuming such a 'they' exists. Given the sensitivity of missile and nuclear and space technologies and the wide-open nature of usenet I believe it very likely that there are US government agents sitting around usenet analyzing classifying and targeting a range of issues and perhaps even individuals. This is likely not a very glamorous or prestigious or even an important job, likely an entry level position that one wants to move out of relatively quickly. But it is likely that such a 'they' exists. Now Brad, you believe 'they' are far more powerful and sinister and all-encompassing than I have portrayed here. That's partly due to your illness, and partly due to your pride. After all, if Brad Guth is targeted by 'them' - well, this is a batle of titans right? hahaha. You gotta learn to laugh a little dude, and live life away from the internet - then you might be more interesting when you get back. You mean when I've learned how to lie my faith-based butt off, while I manage to cheat and steal from others like a good little Zion Yid of a pretend atheist, that'll only topic/author stalk and bash away at the likes of yourself, as well as for my arguments using those highly conditional laws of physics while otherwise excluding all other evidence that rocks my good ship LOLLIPOP? BTW, is truth and honesty a Mook certified kind of illness? Are you actually getting anywhere with your usenet contributions? Have you established a list of topic supporters (other than myself)? - Brad Guth - |
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On Oct 15, 4:17 pm, (Rand Simberg)
wrote: On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:56:49 +0200 (CEST), in a place far, far away, Jim Davis made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: To answer your question though, the thesis is that the US takes the threat posed by usenet seriously enough to warrant its monitoring and shaping usenet discussion. The same way King George monitored and shaped the fellows who inhabited Speaker's Corner back in the day when the public turned against him, or the way the French Postal Service monitored international mails in its famous 'black room' without the French people's knowledge. All these efforts proceed, not by outright obvious ban, but by what Nixon might call 'dirty tricks' not directly attributable to the agency carrying it out. So they would be any agency charged with the duty to control the range of discourse on usenet - if such exists. What evidence do you have that you specifically are being subjected to "dirty tricks" by the US government (or any other government for that matter)? Why do you find the possibility that Brad Guth is some sort of government disinformation agent so much more likely than the possibility that Guth is a very disturbed individual? Just a wild guess, here, but maybe Mr. Mook is almost as disturbed, in his own way, as Brad Guth? Disturbed like Einstein, I suppose. Obviously yourself and others of your silly semitic (aka pretend atheist) kind are not the least bit disturbed about much of anything hocus-pocus or otherwise entirely skewed that has been going down for decades. Apparently your auto- destruct sequence plan of action for taking the rest of us down with your badly sinking ship is exactly what your status quo or bust kind of good ship LOLLIPOP is all about, isn't it. - Brad Guth - |
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On Oct 20, 5:28 am, wrote:
On Oct 19, 10:47 wrote: On Oct 10, 4:21 am, wrote: A $40 billion satellite networkthat provided 50 billion broadband wireless channels to existing wireless hardware and has a $100 million recurring cost, would provide basic services to existing providers at such a cost that they would jump onto the systemd so fast. And you could also steal some customers from those providers with slight reduction in costs and improvements in service. And you could bring more customers into service at today's prices or slightly below todays prices. All this would gen up $35 billion a year and consume something like 2 billion of your channels. Now, you're in a position to win a price war and expand your income to about $120 billion per year - and increase participation in the market to about twice as many subscribers as you had in the market before the system was created. I agree, so when is William Mook, Warren Buffett and myself going to accomplish this worthy task that's worth "$120 billion per year"? - Brad Guth - Well I'm working on some synfuel plants right now. Once that is underway I will do some acquisitions in the US. I am not seeking outside investors or participation. Willie.Moo, I must say that Raytheon and General Electric N367G corporate 737-75(BBJ) jet is impressive. Is any part of it your's? I'm certain that Raytheon and General Electric have each taken advantage of every possible tax credit under the sun (and then some), in so much that basically that spendy aircraft has became owned by the public that had to pay extra tax so that those corporate folks didn't have to spend an actual red cent out of their deep pockets. Are you trying to suggest that you're well connected? When do I get a ride in that nifty N367G? - Brad Guth - |
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On Oct 19, 10:42 am, BradGuth wrote:
On Oct 18, 3:59 am, wrote: On Oct 14, 9:23 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Oct 14, 4:28 pm, wrote: On Oct 14, 5:16 pm, Jim Davis wrote: William Mook wrote: I suppose when the voice of reason can't prove me wrong, they call out the voice of unreason. William, would you care to identify by whom you mean by "they"? Surely you don't think there's a mysterious "they" out there trying to make life difficult for you, do you? I mean, that's always been *Brad's* complaint. :-) Well, if this line of reasoning causes Brad to temper his responses does it matter? Now that's a weird contribution, Rabbi Mook. What part of MI5/NSA did you say you worked for? - Brad Guth - Is it just me being Californicated watching all the specialty license plates in Malibu, but does MI5/NSA when you squint at it look like MENSA? Is Brad trying to tell us something? Is he sending a coded message? Discuss among yourselves. Cause we're not going to get much done talking about moon laws.. haha.. Of whomever has the biggest and best battery of SBLs (aka laser cannons) is clearly in charge of whatever "moon laws" they'd care to impose. The best location and energy resource for accommodating those SBLs is directly related to my LSE-CM/ISS. Terribly sorry about all that. What do exactly you have against an efficient and safe Lunar Space Elevator? BTW, is there anyone else in this anti-think-tank of usenet naysayland that likes 75+% of your research and ideas, besides myself? Just wondering, can you list those of usenet as being constructively in support of anything Willie.Moo/(William Mook)? - Brad Guth -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Brad, Please understand, and I say this with the greatest respect and care I can muster, you are quite mad. Literally out of your mind. The moment that dawns on you without remorse, without self revulsion, without attacking yourself, without guilt, you can begin to heal. Now, having said that, please understand I have nothing against your schemes they are merely wrong. I have nothing against your beliefs. They are merely wrong. Its just that simple. If you would adjust your thinking so that you could see that you are foregoing a lot of happiness in your life because first and foremost you want to be right. And if you cannot be right, then its war! haha.. Let me put it this way. Let's say there was a President who told the American people that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq when there wasn't. And lets say there was a President who told the American people that Al Queda operated out of Iraq when it iddn't. And lets say that there was an American President who told the American people that our troops would be greeted as liberators when they wouldn't. And lets say that there was an American President who said that the Iraqi oil would pay for the war, which it couldn't. Now lets say the American President really and truly believed these things when he said them. Would he be right in asking someone who questioned the validity of those beliefs, why he hated America? What he had against America? Same thing with you Brad. Such a President may be ill-informed, may be a tool of larger powers, may be crazy, may even be a liar. But one thing that President couldn't logically and rationally ask anyone who called him on his judgments, is what did you have against America? That's just madness and points directly at madness. Same thing with you Brad. WHat do I have against your lunar space station elevator idea? Well, I have nothing against it,except it won't work as you advertise and its a waste of time energy and resources to even think about. But you wrongly and madly jump from that benign statement about reality to what do I have against you? I have nothing at all against you Brad except you waste an inordinate amount of time on unworkable insane bull****, and no matter how clearly and plainly someone points out the error of your ways, you absolutely refuse to acknowledge the madness and ask what people have against you. haha.. To which we conclude, you are either ill-informed, or a tool of larger powers, or crazy, or lying through your teeth. And these are not mutually exclusive. I saw a picture in the New York Times the other day of the Dali Llama and President Bush in the Capitol Rotunda. Bush was running his mouth pointing at some detail of the artwork in the Rotunda. That'd be like him, having audience with one of the most enlightened humans on the planet and not taking the time to listen what he might have to say, and wasting his time with pointless minutiae. haha.. You just gotta laugh. The way the Dali Llama was laughing while Bush was running his mouth. And that's the way I laugh at you and your insane questions. While I try once again to set you on the road to sanity. good luck dude. |
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On Oct 21, 1:39 am, BradGuth wrote:
On Oct 15, 7:50 am, wrote: What is obvious to you Brad isn't obvious to others, and probably doesn't even exist in the form you imagine. These serve a bogey men for your imagination so that you don't have to look at yourself as the cause of all the problems in your life. This propensity to project onto 'them' all your problems is a common failing of most people to one degree or another, and is especially pronounced in certain mental disorders, like schizophrenia where there is a full blown personality split, and paranoia, where EVERYTHING is blamed on the illusory 'them'. Jim I am sure was referring to that possibility with my last reply where I didn't take care to speak succinctly. Now, the success of any magic trick stems from mis-direction. And good magicians know their audience and what they're likely to do under most conditions. And they craft fabulous illusions based on this knowledge. Secret agencies exist. Secret agencies in the US government exist. Secret agencies in the US government have likely existed which are responsible for managing the range of political and public discourse since the time of the Civil War. Secret agencies do not operate in the public eye. They operate in the shadows of public life and public thought. They are well aware of human failings. They no doubt exploit human failings to achieve whatever ends they set for themselves. It is easy to believe that they recognize that the propensity to blame others is strong in you obi-wan, and know precisely how to push your buttons and let you go against whatever target they have set up to marginalize or shut down in this public domain - again assuming such a 'they' exists. Given the sensitivity of missile and nuclear and space technologies and the wide-open nature of usenet I believe it very likely that there are US government agents sitting around usenet analyzing classifying and targeting a range of issues and perhaps even individuals. This is likely not a very glamorous or prestigious or even an important job, likely an entry level position that one wants to move out of relatively quickly. But it is likely that such a 'they' exists. Now Brad, you believe 'they' are far more powerful and sinister and all-encompassing than I have portrayed here. That's partly due to your illness, and partly due to your pride. After all, if Brad Guth is targeted by 'them' - well, this is a batle of titans right? hahaha. You gotta learn to laugh a little dude, and live life away from the internet - then you might be more interesting when you get back. You mean when I've learned how to lie my faith-based butt off, while I manage to cheat and steal from others like a good little Zion Yid of a pretend atheist, that'll only topic/author stalk and bash away at the likes of yourself, as well as for my arguments using those highly conditional laws of physics while otherwise excluding all other evidence that rocks my good ship LOLLIPOP? Brad, I was going to try to break this down into simple pieces and point clearly at reality. But as I read it I realized this is ONE LONG SENTENCE. That means that not very much real thought has gone into it Brad. It is a mechanical response of an insance mind that doesn't want to look at reality. The core reality Brad, for you or anyone, is that you must first take care of yourself. I must take care of myself. You must take care of yourself. Then we take care of our families, our friends when possible, our community, and so forth. We work outward from where we are here and now. You Brad are trying to take care of everyone on Earth all at once- protecting us all from the evil 'them' who are lying and stealing and cheating everyone. Like Bush in Iraq, its hard to see how this is helping, but you assure us with perfect calm and honesty that that is precisely what you're doing. And like Bush who says he's also helping the Iraqi people, you Brad are telling us you are not only helping the human race, but are also helping alien races that exist on Venus and are being robbed and cheated and undermined by the same powers that enslave humanity. A great battle is going on in your mind Brad, and you are at the center of it, everything rises and falls by your efforts right here on usenet. Its all madness Brad. Fortunately you don't have bank accounts or armeis to command. So, people aren't dying and people aren't going to the poor house because of your madness. But one thing is certain Brad. YOU are dying, YOU are in the poorhouse because of your beliefs. And its time to give them up. Its time to forgive everyone you fear and hate. And when you are thorugh with that, and the reality of the life you've totally wasted to this point dawns on you, its time to forgive yourself and move on to something more important than your insane beliefs. YOU and a family for Brad, lovers, children, a real career, real talents and hobbies.. Whadayasay Brad? Are you ready for the real world? I know we are. BTW, is truth and honesty a Mook certified kind of illness? Truth doesn't need any defense to be what it is. Honesty is merely recognizing things for what they are. Anything else is error that needs correcting. Are you actually getting anywhere with your usenet contributions? I don't know? Are you still posting? Have you established a list of topic supporters (other than myself)? - Brad Guth -- Hide quoted text - The truth doesn't need support to be the truth. Only lies need supporters and fear the truth. On balance I fear very little these days and am quite happy. Can you say the same, honestly? - Show quoted text - |
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On Oct 20, 10:46 am, BradGuth wrote:
On Oct 20, 5:28 am, wrote: On Oct 19, 10:47 am, BradGuth wrote: On Oct 10, 4:21 am, wrote: A $40 billion satellite networkthat provided 50 billion broadband wireless channels to existing wireless hardware and has a $100 million recurring cost, would provide basic services to existing providers at such a cost that they would jump onto the systemd so fast. And you could also steal some customers from those providers with slight reduction in costs and improvements in service. And you could bring more customers into service at today's prices or slightly below todays prices. All this would gen up $35 billion a year and consume something like 2 billion of your channels. Now, you're in a position to win a price war and expand your income to about $120 billion per year - and increase participation in the market to about twice as many subscribers as you had in the market before the system was created. I agree, so when is William Mook, Warren Buffett and myself going to accomplish this worthy task that's worth "$120 billion per year"? - Brad Guth - Well I'm working on some synfuel plants right now. Once that is underway I will do some acquisitions in the US. I am not seeking outside investors or participation. But synfuels such as h2o2 have been a done deal for better than a century (H2O2 was discovered in 1818), that is unless there's no ongoing incentive or honest considerations for the new and improved ICE that'll safely utilize such an energy rich fluid as h2o2, along with a little conventional fossil fuel or whatever other synfuel. There is so much wrong with this that its difficult to know where to begin. First, H2O2 manufacture Hydrogen peroxide is manufactured today almost exclusively by the autoxidation of 2-ethyl-9,10-dihydroxyanthracene (C16H14O2) to 2- ethylanthraquinone (C16H12O2) forming hydrogen peroxide using oxygen from the air. In this reaction, the hydroxy groups on the middle ring of anthracene are deprotonated and are turned into ketones, while two double bonds are lost from the middle ring and are replaced as C=O double bonds in the ketone groups. The anthraquinone derivative is then extracted out and reduced back to the dihydroxy compound using hydrogen gas in the presence of a metal catalyst. The overall equation for the process is deceptively simple: H2 + O2 H2O2 However the economics of the process depend on effective recycling of the quinone and extraction solvents, and of the hydrogenation catalyst. Formerly inorganic processes were used, employing the electrolysis of an aqueous solution of sulfuric acid or acidic ammonium bisulfate (NH4HSO4), followed by hydrolysis of the peroxydisulfate ((SO4)2)2 which is formed. So, you see H2O2 is not a PRIMARY SOURCE OF ENERGY. It, like storage batteries, is a SECONDARY WAY TO STORE ENERGY. So, it cannot be used to power industry. It can at most be used to store energy gotten from somewhere else. (either electricity or ethyl dihydroanthracene - which is a pretty damned expensive and rare fossil fuel. World production of H2O2 is around 1.9 million tonnes most of which was at a concentration of 70% or less. Bulk 30% H2O2 sold for around US $0.54 per kg, equivalent to US $1.50 per kg (US $0.68 per lb) on a "100% basis Now lets look at the energy density of 30% hydrogen peroxide. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density Well pure 100% hydrogen peroxide is 2.7 MJ/kg. A liter contains 1.4 kg of material, so a liter of hydrogen peroxide at 100% concentration (which is a deadly explosive by the way - not because it contains a lot of energy, but because that energy can be released all at once creating an explosion) a liter of hydrogen peroxide contains 3.78 MJ. This is about 1/10th the energy density of gasoline. And a liter costs about $2.10 to make using industrial processes. So, that's equivalent to $21 per LITER gasoline - or about $100 per gallon. .. Alright, so this wonder fuel costing the equivalent of $100 per gallon is made in a quantity of 2 million tonnes a year. Lets say it was all 100% which it wasn't. But even at that each tonne contains 2.7 GJ and so this is a total energy capacity of 5.4 million GJ. That's equivalent to 885,250 barrels of oil per year. The world consumes something like 30 billion barrels of oil per year. If everyone used hydrogen peroxide, it would use MORE oil since it takes some sort of primary energy to make a secondary fuel like hydrogen peroxide.. All other conventional ICEs that'll burn whatever fuel along with our mostly N2 atmosphere are going to get relatively poor empg as well as keep polluting at maximum levels of NOx, plus unavoidably contributing many other nasty byproducts in their birth-to-grave (aka all inclusive) cycle. Hold on Brad, hold on. To make hydrogen peroxide you need a PRIMARY source of energy. And what primary source are you talking about? If you're using electricity with catalysts, you're talking coal or maybe nuclear energy. If you're using ethyl dihydro anthracene then oil is your primary energy source. In either case the lack of highly specialized catalysts will limit production to something less than 1% of todays' energy supply, even while we handle the same amount of fluid volumes as oil (a hydrogen peroxide spill from a super tanker would be a disaster of the first order given its bleaching properties, its toxic effects, and its explosiveness) And the production process produces its own bproducts that are tremendously more toxic than anything produced by burning gasoline.which you've still gotta do to power the damn hydrogen peroxide process. Even utilizing H2+atmosphere is not going to entirely save our badly failing environment You're still alive Brad, so its not failing that badly, or some might say,badly enough. Fact is, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. You get a bottle of 2.5% hydrogen-peroxide and see it bubble up and imagine some sort of steam engine is possible - without any appreciation of what it takes to make hydrogen peroxide or how much chemical energy a real engine really needs - and you make your pronouncements 'from the gut' as Colbert might say. haha.. Relax, its okay to be wrong. Its not the end of the world. Laugh a little, love a little and it'll be alright. that's going to be continually getting hotter because of what the basic laws of physics The sun has been getting brighter over the past 4.5 billion years yet the average temperature on Earth remains more or less constant within a narrow range. Why? Life has the capacity to alter its environment to maintain life. One of the ways life did this was to pump down the CO2 levels in the atmosphere - until there was so much oxygen that fires erupted raising CO2 levels again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:P...on_Dioxide.png Throughout most of the history of life on Earth carbon dioxide levels were far higher than they are today. In 900 million years - the sun will be too bright for life to be sustained on Earth without some sort of intervention by intelligent action. So, your hand-wringing is foolish at best and counter-productive at worst. has to do with any planet having recently obtained such a horrific mascon of a nearby moon that's orbiting its mostly fluid planet, and just fast enough as to keeping our inner planetology vary much alive and geothermally kicking. Well here you are going off the rails. You heard thw word mascon- which just means mass concentration - with respect to the moon - and you are for no goddamned reason at all predicting doom and gloom because something that has existed in the moon for billions of years has recently been discovered. haha.. Fact is, there does appear to be an anthropogenic source of global warming in the modern era. Fact is, we've got to drop our CO2 emissions. That's not because all life on Earth is threatened. Its because modern industrial life, and human beings in particular, won't live as well on a warmer Earth. Life will continue. Its just what is in the best interest of humanity? And it is in the best interest of humanity to with all due speed end its reliance of fossil fuels. This will come about by tapping into the sun or to nuclear reactors at a cost that is competitive with fossil fuels. These systems will likely produce hydrogen. Hydrogen will be used to scrub carbondioxide out of the air (Sabatier reaction - already used on ISS) and produce methane, which will be polymerized into higher alkanes like propane, butane, octane, nonane, dodecane. It seems the usenet gauntlet of naysayism People posting on usenet have absolutely no power over you day to day Brad, unless you give it to them. Blaming them for not accepting your errors as fact is a form of madness on your part. is well enough polished to see your self, and this faith-based cultism that's in charge of keeping those mostly fossil fuels and yellowcake as spendy as possible, I just bought gasoline for $2.98 per gallon. At 120 MJ per gallong, that's 40.2 megajoules per dollar. If I were to top off with hydrogen peroxide at $1.50 per kilogram, at 2.7 MJ per kg, i'd be getting only 1.8 megajoules per dollar. So your proposed use of hydrogen-peroxide is 20.3 times as costly as gasoline at $2.98 per galon. So, how spendy is that? Brad, you don't know the basics, so your conclusions based on fundamental misunderstandings are flawed. Everyone is not against you, they just recognize that you are wrong on so many levels - and you are too proud to accept that reality and so you attack those you imagine are making you wrong - forgetting that reality doesn't need any defense. The truth is, with or without your help. The only thing that needs constant restatement are lies because the truth tends to erode them.. is thereby keeping our environment as polluted and every bit as lethal as possible, If our environment were lethal Brad, we'd be dead. Like the 2500 in Bhopal. THAT was lethal in that moment. The environment is not lethal in fact the environment is supportive otherwise we wouldn't be here. especially as we emerge into WWIII on behalf of surviving their global energy domination quest. The goal of US policy is to avoid nuclear conflict. Part of that policy is to maintain huge disparities of income between the US and other nations. That's because poor nations before 9/11 never successfully attacked rich nations. This whole thought process, which has kept the peace since the end of world war 2 -failed on 9/11 - and those responsible for our national security have not properly analyzed what the new policies should be to secure the United States and its people in the indefinite future. So, ruddderless and clueless we drift from bad to worse. As a citizen I am concerned with our lack of capacity to identify and do the right thing. Bush 1 invaded Somalia instead of stabilizing the former Soviet Republics and getting a handle on loose nukes. Bush 2 focused on SDI instead of global terror until the success of 9/11. After 9/11 Bush 2 invaded Iraq instead of doing those things to weaken and undermine terrorist power - he inflamed them. Meanwhile, the number of loose nukes grows and we are waiting for the shoe to drop - and a city to be destroyed before sufficient political will is generated by that act to take the next step. We will look back on the days between 9/11 and the first terrorist destruction of a city with nuclear weapons with fondness and laugh at ourselves that we complained about the restrictions to our liberties in the face of the iconoclastic response to the destruction of Paris or Rome or Tokyo by a loose nuke from the Ukrainian arsenal. We will not be able at that time to criticize our leaders for their obvious failings. We argue about idiotic theories of what happened on 9/11 while avoiding the very clear and present danger loose nukes represent along with our total lack of appropriate response. Of one fairly recent contribution on behalf of the makings and utilizing of h2o2: "Hydrogen Peroxide and Sugar"http://www.americanenergyindependence.com/peroxide.html Sugar s even more costly (though more energy dense) than hydrogen peroxide. Since its a biological compound it takes food out of the mouths of starving people to fuel things. You must've had a brain wave while working in the kitchen one day Brad. Hydrogen peroxide and sugar. haha.. Just because you can buy them at your local store doesn't mean they are scalable to the kind of job - or even appropriate to the kinds of jobs they would have to do in order to be our mainstay of power. [snip] |
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On Oct 25, 3:08 am, wrote:
On Oct 20, 10:46 am, BradGuth wrote: On Oct 20, 5:28 am, wrote: On Oct 19, 10:47 am, BradGuth wrote: On Oct 10, 4:21 am, wrote: A $40 billion satellite networkthat provided 50 billion broadband wireless channels to existing wireless hardware and has a $100 million recurring cost, would provide basic services to existing providers at such a cost that they would jump onto the systemd so fast. And you could also steal some customers from those providers with slight reduction in costs and improvements in service. And you could bring more customers into service at today's prices or slightly below todays prices. All this would gen up $35 billion a year and consume something like 2 billion of your channels. Now, you're in a position to win a price war and expand your income to about $120 billion per year - and increase participation in the market to about twice as many subscribers as you had in the market before the system was created. I agree, so when is William Mook, Warren Buffett and myself going to accomplish this worthy task that's worth "$120 billion per year"? - Brad Guth - Well I'm working on some synfuel plants right now. Once that is underway I will do some acquisitions in the US. I am not seeking outside investors or participation. But synfuels such as h2o2 have been a done deal for better than a century (H2O2 was discovered in 1818), that is unless there's no ongoing incentive or honest considerations for the new and improved ICE that'll safely utilize such an energy rich fluid as h2o2, along with a little conventional fossil fuel or whatever other synfuel. There is so much wrong with this that its difficult to know where to begin. First, H2O2 manufacture Hydrogen peroxide is manufactured today almost exclusively by the autoxidation of 2-ethyl-9,10-dihydroxyanthracene (C16H14O2) to 2- ethylanthraquinone (C16H12O2) forming hydrogen peroxide using oxygen from the air. In this reaction, the hydroxy groups on the middle ring of anthracene are deprotonated and are turned into ketones, while two double bonds are lost from the middle ring and are replaced as C=O double bonds in the ketone groups. The anthraquinone derivative is then extracted out and reduced back to the dihydroxy compound using hydrogen gas in the presence of a metal catalyst. The overall equation for the process is deceptively simple: H2 + O2 H2O2 However the economics of the process depend on effective recycling of the quinone and extraction solvents, and of the hydrogenation catalyst. Formerly inorganic processes were used, employing the electrolysis of an aqueous solution of sulfuric acid or acidic ammonium bisulfate (NH4HSO4), followed by hydrolysis of the peroxydisulfate ((SO4)2)2 which is formed. So, you see H2O2 is not a PRIMARY SOURCE OF ENERGY. It, like storage batteries, is a SECONDARY WAY TO STORE ENERGY. So, it cannot be used to power industry. It can at most be used to store energy gotten from somewhere else. (either electricity or ethyl dihydroanthracene - which is a pretty damned expensive and rare fossil fuel. World production of H2O2 is around 1.9 million tonnes most of which was at a concentration of 70% or less. Bulk 30% H2O2 sold for around US $0.54 per kg, equivalent to US $1.50 per kg (US $0.68 per lb) on a "100% basis Now lets look at the energy density of 30% hydrogen peroxide. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density Well pure 100% hydrogen peroxide is 2.7 MJ/kg. A liter contains 1.4 kg of material, so a liter of hydrogen peroxide at 100% concentration (which is a deadly explosive by the way - not because it contains a lot of energy, but because that energy can be released all at once creating an explosion) a liter of hydrogen peroxide contains 3.78 MJ. This is about 1/10th the energy density of gasoline. And a liter costs about $2.10 to make using industrial processes. So, that's equivalent to $21 per LITER gasoline - or about $100 per gallon. . Alright, so this wonder fuel costing the equivalent of $100 per gallon is made in a quantity of 2 million tonnes a year. Lets say it was all 100% which it wasn't. But even at that each tonne contains 2.7 GJ and so this is a total energy capacity of 5.4 million GJ. That's equivalent to 885,250 barrels of oil per year. The world consumes something like 30 billion barrels of oil per year. If everyone used hydrogen peroxide, it would use MORE oil since it takes some sort of primary energy to make a secondary fuel like hydrogen peroxide.. All other conventional ICEs that'll burn whatever fuel along with our mostly N2 atmosphere are going to get relatively poor empg as well as keep polluting at maximum levels of NOx, plus unavoidably contributing many other nasty byproducts in their birth-to-grave (aka all inclusive) cycle. Hold on Brad, hold on. To make hydrogen peroxide you need a PRIMARY source of energy. And what primary source are you talking about? If you're using electricity with catalysts, you're talking coal or maybe nuclear energy. If you're using ethyl dihydro anthracene then oil is your primary energy source. In either case the lack of highly specialized catalysts will limit production to something less than 1% of todays' energy supply, even while we handle the same amount of fluid volumes as oil (a hydrogen peroxide spill from a super tanker would be a disaster of the first order given its bleaching properties, its toxic effects, and its explosiveness) And the production process produces its own bproducts that are tremendously more toxic than anything produced by burning gasoline.which you've still gotta do to power the damn hydrogen peroxide process. Even utilizing H2+atmosphere is not going to entirely save our badly failing environment You're still alive Brad, so its not failing that badly, or some might say,badly enough. Fact is, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. You get a bottle of 2.5% hydrogen-peroxide and see it bubble up and imagine some sort of steam engine is possible - without any appreciation of what it takes to make hydrogen peroxide or how much chemical energy a real engine really needs - and you make your pronouncements 'from the gut' as Colbert might say. haha.. Relax, its okay to be wrong. Its not the end of the world. Laugh a little, love a little and it'll be alright. that's going to be continually getting hotter because of what the basic laws of physics The sun has been getting brighter over the past 4.5 billion years yet the average temperature on Earth remains more or less constant within a narrow range. Why? Life has the capacity to alter its environment to maintain life. One of the ways life did this was to pump down the CO2 levels in the atmosphere - until there was so much oxygen that fires erupted raising CO2 levels again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:P...on_Dioxide.png Throughout most of the history of life on Earth carbon dioxide levels were far higher than they are today. In 900 million years - the sun will be too bright for life to be sustained on Earth without some sort of intervention by intelligent action. So, your hand-wringing is foolish at best and counter-productive at worst. has to do with any planet having recently obtained such a horrific mascon of a nearby moon that's orbiting its mostly fluid planet, and just fast enough as to keeping our inner planetology vary much alive and geothermally kicking. Well here you are going off the rails. You heard thw word mascon- which just means mass concentration - with respect to the moon - and you are for no goddamned reason at all predicting doom and gloom because something that has existed in the moon for billions of years has recently been discovered. haha.. Fact is, there does appear to be an anthropogenic source of global warming in the modern era. Fact is, we've got to drop our CO2 emissions. That's not because all life on Earth is threatened. Its because modern industrial life, and human beings in particular, won't live as well on a warmer Earth. Life will continue. Its just what is in the best interest of humanity? And it is in the best interest of humanity to with all due speed end its reliance of fossil fuels. This will come about by tapping into the sun or to nuclear reactors at a cost that is competitive with fossil fuels. These systems will likely produce hydrogen. Hydrogen will be used to scrub carbondioxide out of the air (Sabatier reaction - already used on ISS) and produce methane, which will be polymerized into higher alkanes like propane, butane, octane, nonane, dodecane. It seems the usenet gauntlet of naysayism People posting on usenet have absolutely no power over you day to day Brad, unless you give it to them. Blaming them for not accepting your errors as fact is a form of madness on your part. is well enough polished to see your self, and this faith-based cultism that's in charge of keeping those mostly fossil fuels and yellowcake as spendy as possible, I just bought gasoline for $2.98 per gallon. At 120 MJ per gallong, that's 40.2 megajoules per dollar. If I were to top off with hydrogen peroxide at $1.50 per kilogram, at 2.7 MJ per kg, i'd be getting only 1.8 megajoules per dollar. So your proposed use of hydrogen-peroxide is 20.3 times as costly as gasoline at $2.98 per galon. So, how spendy is that? Brad, you don't know the basics, so your conclusions based on fundamental misunderstandings are flawed. Everyone is not against you, they just recognize that you are wrong on so many levels - and you are too proud to accept that reality and so you attack those you imagine are making you wrong - forgetting that reality doesn't need any ... read more »- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks so much for your constructive naysayism. I never once said or having insisted that h2o2 + fossil/synfuel whatever was the one any only alternative, just like H2 along with burning or otherwise consuming our badly polluted atmosphere of mostly N2 that'll only get much worse off with multiples of NOx is also not the one and only alternative, nor is H2/LH2 all that end-user (aka village idiot) safe or affordable because those nifty methods of Willie.Moo are simply not going to come to past unless you suddenly become Yiddish and very pro energy Cartel worthy. Saddam wasn't a Yid or being all that Cartel worthy, and just look at what happened to him and of his oily Muslim country. I'll get back to you on some specific h2o2 production, storage and usage questions, as obviously you're somewhat stuck within that usual anti-think-tank and/or naysay rut of Mook, especially if it's about anything that wasn't one of your all-knowing ideas to begin with. - Brad Guth - |
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On Oct 25, 2:11 am, wrote:
Brad, I was going to try to break this down into simple pieces and point clearly at reality. But as I read it I realized this is ONE LONG SENTENCE. That means that not very much real thought has gone into it Brad. It is a mechanical response of an insance mind that doesn't want to look at reality. The core reality Brad, for you or anyone, is that you must first take care of yourself. I must take care of myself. You must take care of yourself. Then we take care of our families, our friends when possible, our community, and so forth. We work outward from where we are here and now. You Brad are trying to take care of everyone on Earth all at once- protecting us all from the evil 'them' who are lying and stealing and cheating everyone. Like Bush in Iraq, its hard to see how this is helping, but you assure us with perfect calm and honesty that that is precisely what you're doing. And like Bush who says he's also helping the Iraqi people, you Brad are telling us you are not only helping the human race, but are also helping alien races that exist on Venus and are being robbed and cheated and undermined by the same powers that enslave humanity. A great battle is going on in your mind Brad, and you are at the center of it, everything rises and falls by your efforts right here on usenet. Its all madness Brad. Fortunately you don't have bank accounts or armeis to command. So, people aren't dying and people aren't going to the poor house because of your madness. But one thing is certain Brad. YOU are dying, YOU are in the poorhouse because of your beliefs. And its time to give them up. Its time to forgive everyone you fear and hate. And when you are thorugh with that, and the reality of the life you've totally wasted to this point dawns on you, its time to forgive yourself and move on to something more important than your insane beliefs. YOU and a family for Brad, lovers, children, a real career, real talents and hobbies.. But unlike yourself and of others you continually suck up to, at least I'm not intentionally snookering folks or am I any kind of born-again liar. Go figure. Whadayasay Brad? Are you ready for the real world? I know we are. ??? we ??? (is that MI5/DHS/NSA/CIA, or what?) BTW, is truth and honesty a Mook certified kind of illness? Truth doesn't need any defense to be what it is. Honesty is merely recognizing things for what they are. Anything else is error that needs correcting. Are you actually getting anywhere with your usenet contributions? I don't know? Are you still posting? Have you established a list of topic supporters (other than myself)? - Brad Guth -- Hide quoted text - The truth doesn't need support to be the truth. Only lies need supporters and fear the truth. On balance I fear very little these days and am quite happy. Can you say the same, honestly? In spite of your silly word games, yes I can. How about yourself and that N637G aircraft of yours? (got truth?) BTW, if I can somehow manage to take out or at least take down my fair share of those pesky (meaning bad) Zion Yids, then so be it. How about yourself (got anyone on your hit list? or is there no such thing as a bad Yid, or bad any kind of faith-based arrogant and greedy idiot according to that good spook/mole book of Mook?) Obviously you and others of your kind don't have a speck of remorse or even hate the likes of Hitler (no wonder nothing much is adding us as it should). - Brad Guth - |
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On Oct 25, 1:53 am, wrote:
On Oct 19, 10:42 am, BradGuth wrote: On Oct 18, 3:59 am, wrote: On Oct 14, 9:23 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Oct 14, 4:28 pm, wrote: On Oct 14, 5:16 pm, Jim Davis wrote: William Mook wrote: I suppose when the voice of reason can't prove me wrong, they call out the voice of unreason. William, would you care to identify by whom you mean by "they"? Surely you don't think there's a mysterious "they" out there trying to make life difficult for you, do you? I mean, that's always been *Brad's* complaint. :-) Well, if this line of reasoning causes Brad to temper his responses does it matter? Now that's a weird contribution, Rabbi Mook. What part of MI5/NSA did you say you worked for? - Brad Guth - Is it just me being Californicated watching all the specialty license plates in Malibu, but does MI5/NSA when you squint at it look like MENSA? Is Brad trying to tell us something? Is he sending a coded message? Discuss among yourselves. Cause we're not going to get much done talking about moon laws.. haha.. Of whomever has the biggest and best battery of SBLs (aka laser cannons) is clearly in charge of whatever "moon laws" they'd care to impose. The best location and energy resource for accommodating those SBLs is directly related to my LSE-CM/ISS. Terribly sorry about all that. What do exactly you have against an efficient and safe Lunar Space Elevator? BTW, is there anyone else in this anti-think-tank of usenet naysayland that likes 75+% of your research and ideas, besides myself? Just wondering, can you list those of usenet as being constructively in support of anything Willie.Moo/(William Mook)? - Brad Guth -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Brad, Please understand, and I say this with the greatest respect and care I can muster, you are quite mad. Literally out of your mind. The moment that dawns on you without remorse, without self revulsion, without attacking yourself, without guilt, you can begin to heal. Now, having said that, please understand I have nothing against your schemes they are merely wrong. I have nothing against your beliefs. They are merely wrong. Its just that simple. If you would adjust your thinking so that you could see that you are foregoing a lot of happiness in your life because first and foremost you want to be right. And if you cannot be right, then its war! haha.. Let me put it this way. Let's say there was a President who told the American people that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq when there wasn't. And lets say there was a President who told the American people that Al Queda operated out of Iraq when it iddn't. And lets say that there was an American President who told the American people that our troops would be greeted as liberators when they wouldn't. And lets say that there was an American President who said that the Iraqi oil would pay for the war, which it couldn't. Now lets say the American President really and truly believed these things when he said them. Would he be right in asking someone who questioned the validity of those beliefs, why he hated America? What he had against America? Same thing with you Brad. Such a President may be ill-informed, may be a tool of larger powers, may be crazy, may even be a liar. But one thing that President couldn't logically and rationally ask anyone who called him on his judgments, is what did you have against America? That's just madness and points directly at madness. Same thing with you Brad. WHat do I have against your lunar space station elevator idea? Well, I have nothing against it,except it won't work as you advertise and its a waste of time energy and resources to even think about. But you wrongly and madly jump from that benign statement about reality to what do I have against you? I have nothing at all against you Brad except you waste an inordinate amount of time on unworkable insane bull****, and no matter how clearly and plainly someone points out the error of your ways, you absolutely refuse to acknowledge the madness and ask what people have against you. haha.. To which we conclude, you are either ill-informed, or a tool of larger powers, or crazy, or lying through your teeth. And these are not mutually exclusive. I saw a picture in the New York Times the other day of the Dali Llama and President Bush in the Capitol Rotunda. Bush was running his mouth pointing at some detail of the artwork in the Rotunda. That'd be like him, having audience with one of the most enlightened humans on the planet and not taking the time to listen what he might have to say, and wasting his time with pointless minutiae. haha.. You just gotta laugh. The way the Dali Llama was laughing while Bush was running his mouth. And that's the way I laugh at you and your insane questions. While I try once again to set you on the road to sanity. good luck dude. ??? "To which we conclude" ??? (there's that pesky "we" again) Does that mean that your MI5/DHS/NSA/CIA infowar resources are running a bit thin? BTW, when am I getting that ride onboard your N367G? (I'd like nothing better than taking a spendy crap at 40,000' while onboard your private 737-75). If I got better and stayed really nice (even to those nasty Zion Yids), could I have one of my own? - Brad Guth - |
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On Oct 25, 10:42 am, BradGuth wrote:
On Oct 25, 1:53 wrote: On Oct 19, 10:42 am, BradGuth wrote: On Oct 18, 3:59 wrote: On Oct 14, 9:23 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Oct 14, 4:28 wrote: On Oct 14, 5:16 pm, Jim Davis wrote: William Mook wrote: I suppose when the voice of reason can't prove me wrong, they call out the voice of unreason. William, would you care to identify by whom you mean by "they"? Surely you don't think there's a mysterious "they" out there trying to make life difficult for you, do you? I mean, that's always been *Brad's* complaint. :-) Well, if this line of reasoning causes Brad to temper his responses does it matter? Now that's a weird contribution, Rabbi Mook. What part of MI5/NSA did you say you worked for? - Brad Guth - Is it just me being Californicated watching all the specialty license plates in Malibu, but does MI5/NSA when you squint at it look like MENSA? Is Brad trying to tell us something? Is he sending a coded message? Discuss among yourselves. Cause we're not going to get much done talking about moon laws.. haha.. Of whomever has the biggest and best battery of SBLs (aka laser cannons) is clearly in charge of whatever "moon laws" they'd care to impose. The best location and energy resource for accommodating those SBLs is directly related to my LSE-CM/ISS. Terribly sorry about all that. What do exactly you have against an efficient and safe Lunar Space Elevator? BTW, is there anyone else in this anti-think-tank of usenet naysayland that likes 75+% of your research and ideas, besides myself? Just wondering, can you list those of usenet as being constructively in support of anythingWillie.Moo/(William Mook)? - Brad Guth -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Brad, Please understand, and I say this with the greatest respect and care I can muster, you are quite mad. Literally out of your mind. The moment that dawns on you without remorse, without self revulsion, without attacking yourself, without guilt, you can begin to heal. Now, having said that, please understand I have nothing against your schemes they are merely wrong. I have nothing against your beliefs. They are merely wrong. Its just that simple. If you would adjust your thinking so that you could see that you are foregoing a lot of happiness in your life because first and foremost you want to be right. And if you cannot be right, then its war! haha.. Let me put it this way. Let's say there was a President who told the American people that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq when there wasn't. And lets say there was a President who told the American people that Al Queda operated out of Iraq when it iddn't. And lets say that there was an American President who told the American people that our troops would be greeted as liberators when they wouldn't. And lets say that there was an American President who said that the Iraqi oil would pay for the war, which it couldn't. Now lets say the American President really and truly believed these things when he said them. Would he be right in asking someone who questioned the validity of those beliefs, why he hated America? What he had against America? Same thing with you Brad. Such a President may be ill-informed, may be a tool of larger powers, may be crazy, may even be a liar. But one thing that President couldn't logically and rationally ask anyone who called him on his judgments, is what did you have against America? That's just madness and points directly at madness. Same thing with you Brad. WHat do I have against your lunar space station elevator idea? Well, I have nothing against it,except it won't work as you advertise and its a waste of time energy and resources to even think about. But you wrongly and madly jump from that benign statement about reality to what do I have against you? I have nothing at all against you Brad except you waste an inordinate amount of time on unworkable insane bull****, and no matter how clearly and plainly someone points out the error of your ways, you absolutely refuse to acknowledge the madness and ask what people have against you. haha.. To which we conclude, you are either ill-informed, or a tool of larger powers, or crazy, or lying through your teeth. And these are not mutually exclusive. I saw a picture in the New York Times the other day of the Dali Llama and President Bush in the Capitol Rotunda. Bush was running his mouth pointing at some detail of the artwork in the Rotunda. That'd be like him, having audience with one of the most enlightened humans on the planet and not taking the time to listen what he might have to say, and wasting his time with pointless minutiae. haha.. You just gotta laugh. The way the Dali Llama was laughing while Bush was running his mouth. And that's the way I laugh at you and your insane questions. While I try once again to set you on the road to sanity. good luck dude. ??? "To which we conclude" ??? (there's that pesky "we" again) Does that mean that your MI5/DHS/NSA/CIA infowar resources are running a bit thin? BTW, when am I getting that ride onboard your N367G? (I'd like nothing better than taking a spendy crap at 40,000' while onboard your private 737-75). If I got better and stayed really nice (even to those nasty Zion Yids), could I have one of my own? - Brad Guth -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oops! looks as though I've just killed off our resident MI5/NSA/CIA spook William Mook. Sorry about that. Perhaps Raytheon and General Electric can find it within their offshore corporate hearts to forgive and forget, just like they forgave and forgotten about most of everything else that got us into this perpetrated cloak and dagger bloody and spendy 9/11 fiasco. - Brad Guth - |
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