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Jeff Findley wrote: Please. The Bush Administration was deflecting attention from everything not related to terrorism (which included the Iraq war) since 9/11. Remember, "the fundamentals of the economy are strong"? Just where did *that* little gem come from, eh? I think it was Chauncey Gardiner who said that. He also said there will be growth in the Spring. :-D Pat |
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On Jan 27, 8:19 am, "Jeff Findley"
wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 26, 4:36 pm, kevin willoughby wrote: wrote: while the Dems arecomposed of different forms of "collectivism." And, uh, are you aware of the classic joke "I'm not a member of an organized party. I'm a Democrat." Yes. But sometimes classics go stale. Dems have proven to be a staggeringly well-co-ordinated party. How else could they have managed to so successfully deflect all attention from themsleves for the current Depression? Were the Dems less successful, Barney Frank and Maxine Waters would be getting sued for several trillion dollars, impeached and tried for treason. Please. The Bush Administration was deflecting attention from everything not related to terrorism (which included the Iraq war) since 9/11. Remember, "the fundamentals of the economy are strong"? Just where did *that* little gem come from, eh? The Bush administration, as incompetant as they were on the economy (did not even *try* to end the War On Poverty, Social Security or any of a number of other toxic programs), were not responsible for this aprticualr disaster. it was those pushing for housing loans for peopel who should not have housing loans. See, for example: http://up-ship.com/blog/?p=1020 “These assets are so riskless, that their capital should be under two percent.” SEE the amazing Maxine Waters declare that there’s not a crises at Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae! BOGGLE at Ms. Waters refer to Raines’ leadership as “outstanding!” STAGGER under the weight of Rep. Lacy Clay’s claim that the investigation of Raines was a “lynching!” THRILL to Barney Frank claiming that there are no “safety and soundnes” issues! |
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On Jan 27, 10:10 am, jacob navia wrote:
wrote: The Bush administration, as incompetant as they were on the economy (did not even *try* to end the War On Poverty, Social Security or any of a number of other toxic programs), War on poverty toxic? Yes. Trillions of dollars spent every year on government programs that ensure that people stay in thrall to the government. Look at the stats... poverty in the US was declining year by year until the "Great Society" programs kicked in. Since then... static. Those trillions would ahve better served everyone had they stayed in the hands of those who buy and spend and create jobs. |
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Those trillions would ahve better served everyone had they stayed in the hands of those who buy and spend and create jobs. Yes, the war against poverty is "toxic", you say. Better is War AGAINST the poor and welfare for the rich. The income of the upper 0.001% of the U.S. households has increased faster than ever under the republican rule. The income of all the rest decreased in real terms. As Leonard Cohen told us: Everybody knows that the dice are loaded Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed Everybody knows that the war is over Everybody knows the good guys lost. Everybody knows the fight was fixed The poor stay poor, the rich get rich That's how it goes -- jacob navia jacob at jacob point remcomp point fr logiciels/informatique http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32 |
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On Jan 27, 1:35 pm, jacob navia wrote:
The income of the upper 0.001% of the U.S. households has increased faster than ever under the republican rule. Good. The income of all the rest decreased in real terms. Then fight to eliminate the income tax (*especially* corporate taxes). Fight to eliminate welfare programs that result in generations stuck in poverty. |
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:10:05 +0100, in a place far, far away, jacob
navia made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: wrote: The Bush administration, as incompetant as they were on the economy (did not even *try* to end the War On Poverty, Social Security or any of a number of other toxic programs), War on poverty toxic? Toxic for you. Not toxic for the poor. Actually, it is. It has destroyed the inner city, and bred millions of fatherless children. |
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On Jan 25, 1:39*am, "
wrote: This has *got* to be a joke, yes? No? Yes? Don't worry. It is a joke. America is still a free country, and, in his own way, Obama will even help to keep it that way. Obama, during the election campaign, reversed himself partially by noting that he would not make his target for withdrawing from Iraq an absolute deadline. Then, after the election, it is true, but before the inauguration, he reversed himself on another crucial point - he would pursue Osama bin Laden, but not in ways that would irresponsibly affect America's friendship with Pakistan. On the other hand, with a stock market crash just preceding the election, McCain did a Herbert Hoover imitation. Thus, while I originally preferred McCain for the job, I think I can live with Obama and we can give him a chance. John Savard |
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On Jan 25, 11:06*pm, "
wrote: On Jan 25, 7:29 pm, Pat Flannery wrote: wrote: They always can. If the Republican party could pull itself together, the Dems would never stand a chance. Of course, if the Libertarian party could pull itself together, the Republican party would never stand a chance. The problem is that the R's and especially the L's are composed of people who take wildly differing forms of "individualism," while the Dems arecomposed of different forms of "collectivism." And, oddly, collectivists seem better at forming blocs of groupthink and unified action than individualists. For once, we are in complete agreement; that's exactly how they behave. Particularly the L's who seem to have no basic agreement on what they really stand for, except that they all think it's really cool to wear a Guy Fawkes mask on November 5. :-) And the D's and R's also have their share of those who are non- ideologues, but whlo are pure politician. The R's seem to have less tolerance for that, and thus more internal dissention. That internal dissension in the R's though seems to be a product of the last couple of decades, when "Reagan's Rule" (Republicans never criticize fellow Republicans) was forgotten, and coinciding with the rise of Talk Radio and Fox News, both of which thrive on finding new boogie men every day of the week to boost their ratings. No Democrats to attack today? Let's go after some RINO Republicans then.. In the last election, the right wing pundits were far more responsible for McCain's defeat than the Democrats were; he wasn't a perfect Republican in their eyes, so why should anyone vote for him? Better not to vote at all. Those sort of tactics will completely destroy what's left of the party in no time flat if they continue. In a way, that could be good. Perhaps what will rise from the ashes will be a party that stands for what the Rep's *used* to stand for... limited, Consititutional government, not the big government socialistic crapfest they've become. If the Reps fail utterly and leave the country in the hands of the Leftists... well, that'll just help bring about Civil War 2: Obama Boogaloo, and either the result will be limited, Constitutional government, or more Leftism and the end of anything resembling America. And the one good thing about *that* would be that the rest of the world will fall into utter chaos, with wars on a scale never before imagined. And with a billion dead in the Middle East, their carcasses burning on the abandoned, ruined oil fields... why, the evening skies will be just *gorgeous*. So in order to save the Middle Easterners, as those bleeding hearts want, we need the Repbulicans to do it. Wow, twisted! Worst case of sour grapes I have ever seen. Eric |
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