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On Moon Landing Anniversary: WANT TO EXPLORE OUTER WORLDS?
Are you old enough to have watched the first Moon landing, live? (BTW
- Neil Armstrong apparently did NOT blow his lines. He said "One small step for a man, One giant leap for Mankind." The "a" in "for a man" did not come through due to the relatively poor quality of interworld communications in 1969.) Would you like to see humans walk again on the moon? Would you like to see humans walk on Mars? Would you like to see people walk on the large array of awesome worlds that await us in the OUTER SOLAR SYSTEM? That is, on the stunningly beautiful and bizarre moons of Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune? Would you like to accelerate YOUR chances of being able to exoplore these worlds, one day? If so, here's a plan: Congress will act on such things only if it is in the popular will to do so. If enough people get together to show their support for HUMAN DEEP SPACE EXPLORATION, then the President and Congress can be motivated to provide the necessary funding. Once the cost of blazing the trail to the outer solar system has been blazed by government (NASA), acceleration of plans by private industry to follow on is likely to occur. Besides, not only later, but earlier on - with the nearer term Moon and Mars missions - even the American space agency COULD do something similar to what the Russiana are already doing! We COULD sell a seat or two on some or all flights to the Moon and Mars! Not enough to pay for the whole flight, but if it's enough to defray the total cost to the tax payer SOME (by, let's say, upwards of a few hundred million dollars or more), then NASA may consider it! (Note, James Cameron, the movie producer, asked NASA about its willingness to let him fly on the Shuttle, NASA said, "Wait." Cameron would probably be still waiting of the Shuttle program had not been cut short.) Then, not to put in a plug for gambling but just to note a possibility: there's always the concept of having a spaceflight as a Lotto prize. Volvo did this with the Spaceship One-type flight that it intends to send passengers on, to float momentarily in space. Ultimately, commercial space tourism to Worlds of Jupiter, the Worlds of Saturn, including the mystery world Titan, and beyond could be spurred once NASA has set the example and developed some new technology, etc. YOU could HELP this all to happen! Interested in getting together an organization to promote this further to the public (no money nor donations involved - it will be a "labor of love" - and internet!) ? Post here or drop me a line! Here is some further explanation about getting the government to fund the technology: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...ca31c?hl=en&q= |
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On Moon Landing Anniversary: WANT TO EXPLORE OUTER WORLDS?
"giveitawhirl2008" wrote in message ... Are you old enough to have watched the first Moon landing, live? (BTW - Neil Armstrong apparently did NOT blow his lines. He said "One small step for a man, One giant leap for Mankind." The "a" in "for a man" did not come through due to the relatively poor quality of interworld communications in 1969.) Yes I am and yes he did blow his lines. The 'a' was omitted. |
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On Moon Landing Anniversary: WANT TO EXPLORE OUTER WORLDS?
On Jul 20, 7:10*pm, "Androcles" wrote:
"giveitawhirl2008" wrote in message ... Are you old enough to have watched the first Moon landing, live? (BTW - Neil Armstrong apparently did NOT blow his lines. He said "One small step for a man, One giant leap for Mankind." The "a" in "for a man" did not come through due to the relatively poor quality of interworld communications in 1969.) Yes I am and yes he did blow his lines. The 'a' was omitted. Neil insists he said the "a" and that it did not come through on the transmission. Unless, since I last heard, they beat him into submission and he signed a confession that he did NOT say it. (You know, like they beat Buzz Aldrin into submission, made him get in line, and pretend that the Moon landings really occurred? [:-)]) |
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On Moon Landing Anniversary: WANT TO EXPLORE OUTER WORLDS?
On Jul 21, 9:26*am, giveitawhirl2008
wrote: On Jul 20, 7:10*pm, "Androcles" wrote: "giveitawhirl2008" wrote in message .... Are you old enough to have watched the first Moon landing, live? (BTW - Neil Armstrong apparently did NOT blow his lines. He said "One small step for a man, One giant leap for Mankind." The "a" in "for a man" did not come through due to the relatively poor quality of interworld communications in 1969.) Yes I am and yes he did blow his lines. The 'a' was omitted. Neil insists he said the "a" and that it did not come through on the transmission. Unless, since I last heard, they beat him into submission and he signed a confession that he did NOT say it. (You know, like they beat Buzz Aldrin into submission, made him get in line, and pretend that the Moon landings really occurred? [:-)]) from what i could hear he sounded like he was struggling not to explode into uncontrolable laughter. it is possible that as he was holding his breath he produced a silent "a" without realizing it. |
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On Moon Landing Anniversary: WANT TO EXPLORE OUTER WORLDS?
"giveitawhirl2008" wrote in message ... On Jul 20, 7:10 pm, "Androcles" wrote: "giveitawhirl2008" wrote in message ... Are you old enough to have watched the first Moon landing, live? (BTW - Neil Armstrong apparently did NOT blow his lines. He said "One small step for a man, One giant leap for Mankind." The "a" in "for a man" did not come through due to the relatively poor quality of interworld communications in 1969.) Yes I am and yes he did blow his lines. The 'a' was omitted. Neil insists he said the "a" and that it did not come through on the transmission. Unless, since I last heard, they beat him into submission and he signed a confession that he did NOT say it. (You know, like they beat Buzz Aldrin into submission, made him get in line, and pretend that the Moon landings really occurred? [:-)]) ================================================ Doesn't matter, I remember what he said without any hesitation. As for you, **** off, you are a moron. *plonk* Do not reply to this generic message, it was automatically generated; you have been kill-filed, either for being boringly stupid, repetitive, unfunny, ineducable, repeatedly posting politics, religion or off-topic subjects to a sci. newsgroup, attempting cheapskate free advertising for profit, because you are a troll, simply insane or any combination or permutation of the aforementioned reasons; any reply will go unread. Boringly stupid is the most common cause of kill-filing, but because this message is generic the other reasons have been included. You are left to decide which is most applicable to you. There is no appeal, I have despotic power over whom I will electronically admit into my home and you do not qualify as a reasonable person I would wish to converse with or even poke fun at. Some weirdoes are not kill- filed, they amuse me and I retain them for their entertainment value as I would any chicken with two heads, either one of which enables the dumb bird to scratch dirt, step back, look down, step forward to the same spot and repeat the process eternally. This should not trouble you, many of those plonked find it a blessing that they are not required to think and can persist in their bigotry or crackpot theories without challenge. You have the right to free speech, I have the right not to listen. The kill-file will be cleared annually with spring cleaning or whenever I purchase a new computer or hard drive. I hope you find this explanation is satisfactory but even if you don't, damnly my frank, I don't give a dear. Have a nice day. |
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On Moon Landing Anniversary: WANT TO EXPLORE OUTER WORLDS?
"giveitawhirl2008" wrote in message ... Are you old enough to have watched the first Moon landing, live? (BTW - Neil Armstrong apparently did NOT blow his lines. He said "One small step for a man, One giant leap for Mankind." The "a" in "for a man" did not come through due to the relatively poor quality of interworld communications in 1969.) Nah, his pause shortly after the missing word shows a consciousness of guilt. He botched the line, plain and simple. Listen to it again, the pause shows he knows he botched it. And the line would normally read without any pause betwen 'for' and 'a'. So the excuse that a pause caused the voice activated communication system doesn't ring true. Would you like to see humans walk again on the moon? Would you like to see humans walk on Mars? Would you like to see people walk on the large array of awesome worlds that await us in the OUTER SOLAR SYSTEM? That is, on the stunningly beautiful and bizarre moons of Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune? Would you like to accelerate YOUR chances of being able to exoplore these worlds, one day? I'd rather see NASA help produce a replacement for fossil fuels and solve the climate change problem. Making America the next energy Saudi Arabia. Creating a future for America where we go from the largest energy user to the largest world supplier. Turning America's greatest single weakness into it's greatest future strength. Ending wars over oil, ending Middle East dominance and building an energy source that could benefit the third world in ways we can only imagine. Ask yourself, if you're a fan of all things Star Trek/Sci-fi etc. What is it that made the Utopian dreams of Star Trek go? Prosperity and justice for all? It was that magical energy source they called di-lithium crystals. Endless clean energy made...ANYTHING...possible. Travel, equal justice and security. This is the NASA goal that was being started....before Bush killed it for the Moon and Mars. And if you're into conspiracy theories, when I first came to this ng and found out about this program I started ranting loudly about it in favor. Just three weeks after I started going on about it, NASA dropped their space solar power webpage which had been up for many years. 'They' don't want to talk about it. Laying the Foundation for Space Solar Power http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=0309075971 I do. If so, here's a plan: Congress will act on such things only if it is in the popular will to do so. If enough people get together to show their support for HUMAN DEEP SPACE EXPLORATION, then the President and Congress can be motivated to provide the necessary funding. Once the cost of blazing the trail to the outer solar system has been blazed by government (NASA), acceleration of plans by private industry to follow on is likely to occur. Besides, not only later, but earlier on - with the nearer term Moon and Mars missions - even the American space agency COULD do something similar to what the Russiana are already doing! We COULD sell a seat or two on some or all flights to the Moon and Mars! Not enough to pay for the whole flight, but if it's enough to defray the total cost to the tax payer SOME (by, let's say, upwards of a few hundred million dollars or more), then NASA may consider it! (Note, James Cameron, the movie producer, asked NASA about its willingness to let him fly on the Shuttle, NASA said, "Wait." Cameron would probably be still waiting of the Shuttle program had not been cut short.) Then, not to put in a plug for gambling but just to note a possibility: there's always the concept of having a spaceflight as a Lotto prize. Volvo did this with the Spaceship One-type flight that it intends to send passengers on, to float momentarily in space. Ultimately, commercial space tourism to Worlds of Jupiter, the Worlds of Saturn, including the mystery world Titan, and beyond could be spurred once NASA has set the example and developed some new technology, etc. YOU could HELP this all to happen! Interested in getting together an organization to promote this further to the public (no money nor donations involved - it will be a "labor of love" - and internet!) ? Post here or drop me a line! Here is some further explanation about getting the government to fund the technology: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...ca31c?hl=en&q= |
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On Moon Landing Anniversary: WANT TO EXPLORE OUTER WORLDS?
jonathan wrote:
"giveitawhirl2008" wrote in message ... Are you old enough to have watched the first Moon landing, live? (BTW - Neil Armstrong apparently did NOT blow his lines. He said "One small step for a man, One giant leap for Mankind." The "a" in "for a man" did not come through due to the relatively poor quality of interworld communications in 1969.) Nah, his pause shortly after the missing word shows a consciousness of guilt. He botched the line, plain and simple. Listen to it again, the pause shows he knows he botched it. And the line would normally read without any pause betwen 'for' and 'a'. So the excuse that a pause caused the voice activated communication system doesn't ring true. I prefer to look at it in the broader perspective. It was indeed one small step for humans, but it was a huge step for 'mankind', which includes all of the lifeforms which participated in our creation, and which we utterly depend upon for our continued survival. The fact that we are now trying our best to destroy all other lifeforms besides ourselves, no matter how high or low, and thus ourselves, makes his actually philosophically correct statement all the more piquant. |
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"kT" wrote in message ... jonathan wrote: "giveitawhirl2008" wrote in message ... Are you old enough to have watched the first Moon landing, live? (BTW - Neil Armstrong apparently did NOT blow his lines. He said "One small step for a man, One giant leap for Mankind." The "a" in "for a man" did not come through due to the relatively poor quality of interworld communications in 1969.) Nah, his pause shortly after the missing word shows a consciousness of guilt. He botched the line, plain and simple. Listen to it again, the pause shows he knows he botched it. And the line would normally read without any pause betwen 'for' and 'a'. So the excuse that a pause caused the voice activated communication system doesn't ring true. I prefer to look at it in the broader perspective. It was indeed one small step for humans, but it was a huge step for 'mankind', which includes all of the lifeforms which participated in our creation, and which we utterly depend upon for our continued survival. The fact that we are now trying our best to destroy all other lifeforms besides ourselves, no matter how high or low, and thus ourselves, makes his actually philosophically correct statement all the more piquant. I'd prefer to think you were an intelligent observer, but actually you are ****ing idiot who thinks his preferences can change what someone actually said, dumb****! *plonk* Do not reply to this generic message, it was automatically generated; you have been kill-filed, either for being boringly stupid, repetitive, unfunny, ineducable, repeatedly posting politics, religion or off-topic subjects to a sci. newsgroup, attempting cheapskate free advertising for profit, because you are a troll, simply insane or any combination or permutation of the aforementioned reasons; any reply will go unread. Boringly stupid is the most common cause of kill-filing, but because this message is generic the other reasons have been included. You are left to decide which is most applicable to you. There is no appeal, I have despotic power over whom I will electronically admit into my home and you do not qualify as a reasonable person I would wish to converse with or even poke fun at. Some weirdoes are not kill- filed, they amuse me and I retain them for their entertainment value as I would any chicken with two heads, either one of which enables the dumb bird to scratch dirt, step back, look down, step forward to the same spot and repeat the process eternally. This should not trouble you, many of those plonked find it a blessing that they are not required to think and can persist in their bigotry or crackpot theories without challenge. You have the right to free speech, I have the right not to listen. The kill-file will be cleared annually with spring cleaning or whenever I purchase a new computer or hard drive. I hope you find this explanation is satisfactory but even if you don't, damnly my frank, I don't give a dear. Have a nice day. |
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On Moon Landing Anniversary: WANT TO EXPLORE OUTER WORLDS?
"jonathan" wrote in message
... "giveitawhirl2008" wrote in message ... [snippage] I'd rather see NASA help produce a replacement for fossil fuels and solve the climate change problem. Making America the next energy Saudi Arabia. Creating a future for America where we go from the largest energy user to the largest world supplier. Turning America's greatest single weakness into it's greatest future strength. Ending wars over oil, ending Middle East dominance and building an energy source that could benefit the third world in ways we can only imagine. These are not NASA's job. These activities and goals come under the Department of Energy. Whatever happens, you will never get rid of the need for fossil fuels (or at least hydrocarbon fuels) because nothing else works as well for commercial and military aviation. Electric cars, maybe--electric planes, I doubt it. NOAA is "in charge" of climate change science. Do get your Government agencies right. Ask yourself, if you're a fan of all things Star Trek/Sci-fi etc. What is it that made the Utopian dreams of Star Trek go? Prosperity and justice for all? It was that magical energy source they called di-lithium crystals. Endless clean energy made...ANYTHING...possible. Travel, equal justice and security. Ah, I see--solve all our problems by assuming that science fictional doubletalk stuff is a step away from reality if only we work hard enough. And solar power satellites will give us Truth, Justice, and the American Way? This is the NASA goal that was being started....before Bush killed it for the Moon and Mars. And if you're into conspiracy theories, when I first came to this ng and found out about this program I started ranting loudly about it in favor. Just three weeks after I started going on about it, NASA dropped their space solar power webpage which had been up for many years. 'They' don't want to talk about it. Probably because it is far cheaper (though far from cheap at this time) and more practical to capture, store, and distribute solar power on the ground. Laying the Foundation for Space Solar Power http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=0309075971 I do. [snippage] -- Mike Dworetsky (Remove pants sp*mbl*ck to reply) |
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On Moon Landing Anniversary: WANT TO EXPLORE OUTER WORLDS?
On Jul 21, 4:24*am, "Mike Dworetsky"
wrote: [...] NOAA is "in charge" of climate change science. Do get your Government agencies right. The DOD (Navy and Air Force), NASA and NOAA all deal with weather, oceans, and earth science in general, which deals with climate change. Clearly the DOD is not dealing with science per se, but both NOAA and NASA have earth scientists. And I'd say that NASA, being an independent agency rather than part of the Dept. of Commerce as is NOAA, has more invested in science than does NOAA. Read up on the National Polar Orbiting Earth Satellite System (NPOESS) for more details. Eric |
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