[OT] Russia may have just had their own little 9/11

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe...ash/index.html

If this isn't some sort of terrorism, it's the biggest coincidence ever. Of
course, when you add the reliability of Russian planes to it, maybe not so
big.

(Yes, I know it's a morbid joke.)

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james_anatidae wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe...ash/index.html

If this isn't some sort of terrorism, it's the biggest coincidence ever.
Of course, when you add the reliability of Russian planes to it, maybe not
so big.

(Yes, I know it's a morbid joke.)

One story circulating, is that one of the pilots radioed a Hijack warning
moments before contact was lost...

Cheers,
Richard

Russia may have just had their own little 9/11

ZBOXMAN94506

key word here is Alan Erskine

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:53:14 +1000, Richard Stewart
wrote:

james_anatidae wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe...ash/index.html

If this isn't some sort of terrorism, it's the biggest coincidence ever.
Of course, when you add the reliability of Russian planes to it, maybe not
so big.

(Yes, I know it's a morbid joke.)

One story circulating, is that one of the pilots radioed a Hijack warning
moments before contact was lost...

....Confirm that. AP is also reporting this, as well as CNN. Not sure
about the Beeb, because I'm getting 404s when I try surfing over there
now. Probably my ISP's fault, as they're doing maintainence right now
on their servers.

....On the other hand, I fully expect the MUFON morons to pop up and
claim their EBE buddies are behind this one :-P

OM

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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 01:19:33 -0500, OM
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wrote:

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:53:14 +1000, Richard Stewart
wrote:

james_anatidae wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe...ash/index.html

If this isn't some sort of terrorism, it's the biggest coincidence ever.
Of course, when you add the reliability of Russian planes to it, maybe not
so big.

(Yes, I know it's a morbid joke.)

One story circulating, is that one of the pilots radioed a Hijack warning
moments before contact was lost...

...Confirm that. AP is also reporting this, as well as CNN. Not sure
about the Beeb, because I'm getting 404s when I try surfing over there
now. Probably my ISP's fault, as they're doing maintainence right now
on their servers.

From the BBC news item:

A spokesman for the plane's owners, Russian air company Sibir, said
they received an "automatically generated telegram from the Sochi air
control centre that the plane had been hijacked".

But Russia's Interfax news agency later quoted an unnamed law
enforcement source as saying it had been a distress alert.

....

"According to a preliminary conclusion made by the investigation teams
which are working at the sites of the crashes, no signs of terrorist
acts or explosions have been found," FSB spokesman, Sergey
Ignatchenko, told Itar-Tass news agency.

Richard Stewart wrote:

One story circulating, is that one of the pilots radioed a Hijack warning
moments before contact was lost...


Communist revolutionaries trying to hijack the plane to Havana, no doubt.
(okay, it's in bad taste....but it was too good to pass up.)

Pat

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:53:14 +1000
Richard Stewart wrote:

One story circulating, is that one of the pilots radioed a Hijack
warning moments before contact was lost...

From my reading of the story it is more likely that that aircraft squawked hijack.
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Whatever the cause, the shock and loss deserves all our sympathies.

One line of investigation is the jet fuel depot
at the airport they just used -- checking fuel contamiation.

That should be easy enough to run to ground.

And if terrorism is involved,
don't overlook the simmering Georgia/Abkhazia/Russia
hostilities -- the Caucasus is fiery with disorder.




"james_anatidae" wrote in message
...
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe...ash/index.html

If this isn't some sort of terrorism, it's the biggest coincidence ever.
Of
course, when you add the reliability of Russian planes to it, maybe not so
big.

(Yes, I know it's a morbid joke.)

--
Goliath & Wildwing's Storage Room
http://anatidae.homestead.com/

I don't get it on why people kept posting off topic stuff in a
non-related newsgroup.

If one want to talk something Russian, would one at least compare the
disappearance of Buran with the disappearance of the Columbia. And why
the death of eight people aren't talked as much as the disappearance
of seven people,


"james_anatidae" wrote in message ...
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe...ash/index.html

If this isn't some sort of terrorism, it's the biggest coincidence ever.

Well... In 11th September 2001, something crashed into the Pentagon,
NO ONE, I repeat NO ONE can crash anything on the Pentagon that easily
without the Pentagon's permission (unless you are saying that a super
high tech U.F.O. was involved here), proving that to do that one
required a massive inside job, maybe the same thing happened in the
Russian government?

But then again, the ones who control both governments (U.S.A. and
Russian) are the same group of people anyway.

It should be noted terrorism is an of putting fears into people, the
events don't necessary have to exist. Jusk ask any horror producer,
they're an expert in the art of terrorism.

Of course, when you add the reliability of Russian planes to it,
maybe not so big.

Russian/Soviet planes are quite reliable, but... lately many of them
are fitted with 'western' avionics to be 'updated', these avionics
while might be 'advanced', in the same time they're also quite frail
and can be easily exploited, and there also the chance that these
avionics might even contained trojan horse (or maybe even horses).

There are several possibilities:

- The plane was hijacked.

- The plane's avionics fritz and then tell that it was hijacked.

- The plane's avionics was ordered from the outside to tell that it
was hijacked.

Remember, be open minded, and also remember what Arthur Conan Doyle
once said "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which
remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

(Yes, I know it's a morbid joke.)

Cruel joke maybe?

I have always been concerned about the Russian practice of parking large
numbers of commercial aircraft on the tarmac far from the terminal; these
planes may sit there for extended periods prior to their flight. It would
not be difficult for a terrorist to sneak into this area and to plant bombs
on aircraft, since security cannot be that tight.

Domodedova is littered with such planes, I think some only fly once a week.

On the other hand, its possible that fuel contamination would take out 2
planes, but doing so within 3 minutes of each other is highly unlikely.


"james_anatidae" wrote in message
...
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe...ash/index.html

If this isn't some sort of terrorism, it's the biggest coincidence ever.
Of
course, when you add the reliability of Russian planes to it, maybe not so
big.

(Yes, I know it's a morbid joke.)

--
Goliath & Wildwing's Storage Room
http://anatidae.homestead.com/