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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
On Mar 1, 6:28*am, Brad Guth wrote:
Lo and behold, it seems that numerous cosmic encounters and even mergers of galactic proportions isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and singular Big Bang rusemasters of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest. *For one thing, the electrostatic force is supposedly 4.17e42 stronger than the Newtonian force of gravity, so unless there are positron emitting stars, it seems the electron emitting stars are keeping their distance in spite of gravity. Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone) *http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored) *http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20 *http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html Local galactic motion simulation: *"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B. Nordström et al. *http://www.aanda.org/content/view/71/42/lang,en According to several physics and astronomy kinds of *peer reviewed and science journal accepted observationology (deductive interpretation of eye-candy plus other collaborative peer replicated research), our Milky Way is made up of at least two galactic units, with more of the same on their blue-shifted way towards encountering us (namely Andromeda). *Seems hardly fair considering that everything was supposedly created via one singular Big Bang, not to mention that hundreds to perhaps thousands of galaxies seem rather nicely headed into the Great Attractor (including us) for their final demise and/or rebirth. Don’t forget to appreciate those Hubble, KECK and multiple other archives (including those of what our FAS has compiled) depicting “colliding galaxies”, as well as soon to become ESA color/hue enhanced and expanded upon via a trio of their impressive orbital observatories, not to mention whatever the renewed and improved Hubble plus our next generation of orbital observatories should further document. *It may even become hard to find galaxies as massive as ours and Andromeda that are entirely original without their having grown via mergers. Where's the all-knowing expertise from our FAS, telling us whatever they seem to know best or at least suspect is most likely, and where exactly are those public funded supercomputer simulations. *Surely these brown-nosed clowns, faith-based bigots and closed mindsets of our Usenet/newsgroup proprietors that are continually enforcing their mainstream status quo (much like my personal rabbi shadow tries to do by trashing everyone in sight) are hopefully not speaking on behalf of our FAS or any other professional group that attempting to constructively contribute on behalf of the greater good. I'm asking nicely; *how can the Newtonian physics laws of gravity be conditional? How can those Newtonian laws plus those of orbital mechanics which apply for Sedna, the likes of 2005-VX3 and everything else we can think of, and yet not apply for that of whatever exist between Sirius and our solar system? Do those electrons (negative charged ions) of stars or similar electron charged bodies repel that much? I don't mean to be technically condescending or willfully disregarding of other established interpretations, as always touted and enforced by the usual preponderance of our alt.astronomy naysayers on behalf of sustaining their mainstream status quo, but merely asking as to the best available swag of what took place as of somewhat recently within our solar system and upon Earth, as of a few years after Sirius B had its helium flashover, whereas I truly believe this consequence wasn't all that insignificant or entirely unrelated to our Selene/moon having encountered Earth, and having ever since contributed to the last ice- age thaw that abruptly started as of 11, 711 years ago, and obviously hasn’t stopped thawing us out ever since. However, how can our passive solar system of 2.02e30 kg have been so unaffected by the original 25e30 kg worth of the nearby Sirius star/ solar system, and even as of today by the remaining 7e30 kg worth of Sirius(abc) that we are moving ourselves towards at 7.6 km/sec? Of the original proto-Sirius molecular cloud 12.5e6 solar masses that existed as recently as some 250 (+/- 25) odd millions of years ago is also of something truly horrific, that by rights should have affected our nearby solar system and the frail environment of Eden/Earth, especially as that massive cloud got blown/expanded further away from having created the Sirius star system. *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” Even our cranky David J. Tholen has to agree that such a nearby stellar composite mass as represented by whatever Sirius(abc) started out as 25e30 kg (a whole lot worse yet when it was just a molecular cloud), and even as little as it remains today (7e30 kg) is unavoidably in charge of our galactic area, not to mention having affected our global environment from time to time. So, unless we can point to something other of any similar nearby vibrance of molecular mass and subsequent stellar energy that was anything but passive, all we have to work with as having affected our environment over the past 250 some odd million years, is pretty much limited as to whatever Sirius(abc) had to offer. ~ BG |
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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
On Feb 20, 9:44*am, Brad Guth wrote:
The real David J. Tholen (David Tholen) knows better than most of us combined. *We are in fact tidal bound to the still massive Sirius star/ solar system (for the same reason little red and icy Sedna that's never closer than 76 AU isn't going anywhere), though not nearly as strongly as when that massive molecular cloud was only recently forming those extremely vibrant nearby stars, whereas the complex environment within our relatively passive solar system as well as that of Earth has been affected by this nearby source of gravity and energy. Unfortunately, the spooks, moles and clowns as the resident impostors of Usenet have no moral fiber between the entire lot of themselves, and the original owners of a given name are usually fully aware of this. *So why hasn't David Tholen or any other real Tholen spoken a good or bad word about their impostor? On the other hand, if I were in charge of running our NASA or DARPA according to the mutually perpetrated cold-war era, plus all the usual cloak and dagger ways of our past, present and future, whereas if our resident impostor ‘tholen’, Marty and of course those ‘seans’ didn’t already exist, as such I’d sure as hell invent as many brown-nosed impostors and rusemasters as possible (including faith-based clowns like Art Deco and Saul Levy), especially once this open Usenet method of global publishing went so easily public as a free-for-all investigative news and story telling medium that virtually everyone with half a brain (even if it’s K12 dysfunctional) has access to. *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” On Mar 3, 6:43 am, "Hagar" wrote: : Yea, those pesky ice-ages, they come and go, with regularity. : It's just unfortunate that you Climate Change nutters want to : completely bury any reference to the Medieval Climatic Anomaly. : Pretty much like Ostriches stick their heads in the sand, you : Liberal Loons stick your heads up your asses, whenever something : happens that you poor ****s can't come to grips with. : Oh yea ... and you start babbling nonsense .... like brain-farts. Actually there were a couple of rather abrupt changes in ice-age cycles, such as those of 41,000 years and those of merely 25,000 year cycles that came about as we go back in time. It's exactly as though our orbit or elliptical association with Sirius or the mutual barycenter/centroid was nearby at first, as well as the all-inclusive mass of the Sirius star/solar system was much greater. Like the icy and reddish planetoid Sedna, a trans-Neptunian object that has a fairly sharp elliptical trek that never manages to directly orbit the sun (only gets within 76 AU before it heads way the hell out past 975 AU), but otherwise never goes away from us because of those pesky Newtonian forces at play. With Sirius we may never get any closer than one light year, although encounters of 0.1 ly might have been the case when there was so much extra gravity influence (25e30 kg) , and it’s otherwise exactly as though the Sirius star system had lost considerable mass a couple of times, and perhaps once more as Sirius(B) rebuilds itself to 1.4+ solar mass and once again goes crazy on us, and obviously this gets a whole lot worse yet for us if Sirius(B) merges with Sirius(A). Our current elliptical trek velocity with Sirius is only 7.6 km/s, and it’s predictably speeding up as we get closer. Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
On Feb 20, 9:44*am, Brad Guth wrote:
The real David J. Tholen (David Tholen) knows better than most of us combined. *We are in fact tidal bound to the still massive Sirius star/ solar system (for the same reason little red and icy Sedna that's never closer than 76 AU isn't going anywhere), though not nearly as strongly as when that massive molecular cloud was only recently forming those extremely vibrant nearby stars, whereas the complex environment within our relatively passive solar system as well as that of Earth has been affected by this nearby source of gravity and energy. Unfortunately, the spooks, moles and clowns as the resident impostors of Usenet have no moral fiber between the entire lot of themselves, and the original owners of a given name are usually fully aware of this. *So why hasn't David Tholen or any other real Tholen spoken a good or bad word about their impostor? On the other hand, if I were in charge of running our NASA or DARPA according to the mutually perpetrated cold-war era, plus all the usual cloak and dagger ways of our past, present and future, whereas if our resident impostor ‘tholen’, Marty and of course those ‘seans’ didn’t already exist, as such I’d sure as hell invent as many brown-nosed impostors and rusemasters as possible (including faith-based clowns like Art Deco and Saul Levy), especially once this open Usenet method of global publishing went so easily public as a free-for-all investigative news and story telling medium that virtually everyone with half a brain (even if it’s K12 dysfunctional) has access to. *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” Clearly the mainstream status quo wants nothing but conditional laws of physics to apply on behalf of defending their interpretation as to how everything works, and otherwise utilized in order to disqualify and/or banish all other interpretations via obfuscation and denials of whatever evidence or deductive interpretations come along. On Mar 3, 6:43 am, "Hagar" wrote: : Yea, those pesky ice-ages, they come and go, with regularity. : It's just unfortunate that you Climate Change nutters want to : completely bury any reference to the Medieval Climatic Anomaly. : Pretty much like Ostriches stick their heads in the sand, you : Liberal Loons stick your heads up your asses, whenever something : happens that you poor ****s can't come to grips with. : Oh yea ... and you start babbling nonsense .... like brain-farts. Actually there were a couple of rather abrupt changes in ice-age cycles, such as those of 41,000 years and those of merely 25,000 year cycles that came about as we go back in time. It's exactly as though our orbit or elliptical association with Sirius or the mutual barycenter/centroid thereof was nearby at first, as well as the all- inclusive mass of the Sirius star/solar system was much greater. Like the icy and reddish planetoid Sedna, a trans-Neptunian object having a fairly sharp elliptical trek that never manages to directly orbit the sun (only gets within 76 AU before it heads way the hell out past 975 AU), but otherwise never manages to go away from us because of those pesky Newtonian forces at play, whereas the exact same laws orbital and elliptical dynamics apply to our solar system and that of Sirius(abc). With Sirius we may never get any closer than one light year, although encounters of 0.1 ly might have been the case when there was originally so much extra gravity influence (25e30 kg) , and it’s otherwise exactly as though the Sirius star system had lost considerable mass a couple of times, and perhaps it’ll happen once more as Sirius(B) rebuilds itself to 1.4+ solar mass and once again goes crazy on us, and obviously this gets a whole lot worse yet for us if Sirius(B) merges with Sirius(A). Our current elliptical trek velocity with Sirius is only 7.6 km/s, and it’s predictably speeding up as we get closer. In other words, it’s technically impossible for us to not be gravitationally linked by the tidal forces imposed by the still massive Sirius star/solar system, and this should be especially obvious since we’re clearly headed back towards Sirius. The only ones objecting to this interpretation are the most devout ZNRs and their mainstream of brown-nosed minions that topic/author stalk and bash for sport. Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
On Feb 20, 9:44*am, Brad Guth wrote:
The real David J. Tholen (David Tholen) knows better than most of us combined. *We are in fact tidal bound to the still massive Sirius star/ solar system (for the same reason little red and icy Sedna that's never closer than 76 AU isn't going anywhere), though not nearly as strongly as when that massive molecular cloud was only recently forming those extremely vibrant nearby stars, whereas the complex environment within our relatively passive solar system as well as that of Earth has been affected by this nearby source of gravity and energy. Unfortunately, the spooks, moles and clowns as the resident impostors of Usenet have no moral fiber between the entire lot of themselves, and the original owners of a given name are usually fully aware of this. *So why hasn't David Tholen or any other real Tholen spoken a good or bad word about their impostor? On the other hand, if I were in charge of running our NASA or DARPA according to the mutually perpetrated cold-war era, plus all the usual cloak and dagger ways of our past, present and future, whereas if our resident impostor ‘tholen’, Marty and of course those ‘seans’ didn’t already exist, as such I’d sure as hell invent as many brown-nosed impostors and rusemasters as possible (including faith-based clowns like Art Deco and Saul Levy), especially once this open Usenet method of global publishing went so easily public as a free-for-all investigative news and story telling medium that virtually everyone with half a brain (even if it’s K12 dysfunctional) has access to. *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” Clearly the mainstream status quo wants nothing but conditional laws of physics to apply on behalf of defending their interpretation as to how everything works, and otherwise twisted and utilized in order to disqualify and/or banish all other interpretations via obfuscation and denials of whatever evidence or deductive interpretations come along. On Mar 3, 6:43 am, "Hagar" wrote: : Yea, those pesky ice-ages, they come and go, with regularity. : It's just unfortunate that you Climate Change nutters want to : completely bury any reference to the Medieval Climatic Anomaly. : Pretty much like Ostriches stick their heads in the sand, you : Liberal Loons stick your heads up your asses, whenever something : happens that you poor ****s can't come to grips with. : Oh yea ... and you start babbling nonsense .... like brain-farts. Actually there were a couple of rather abrupt changes in those pesky ice-age cycles, such as those of 41,000 years and those of merely 25,000 year cycles that came about as we go back in time. It's exactly as though our orbit or elliptical association with Sirius or the mutual barycenter/centroid thereof was nearby at first, as well as the all-inclusive mass of the Sirius star/solar system was much greater. Like the icy and reddish planetoid Sedna, a trans-Neptunian object having a fairly sharp elliptical orbital trek of 12,059 years that never manages to directly orbit the sun (only gets within 76 AU before it heads way the hell out past 975 AU), but otherwise never manages to break away from us because of those pesky Newtonian forces at play, whereas the exact same laws orbital and elliptical dynamics apply to our solar system and that of Sirius(abc). With Sirius we may never get any closer than one light year, although encounters of 0.1 ly and possibly even 0.086 ly might have been the case when there was originally so much extra gravity influence (25e30 kg) , and it’s otherwise exactly as though the Sirius star system had lost considerable mass a couple of times, and perhaps it’ll happen once more as Sirius(B) rebuilds itself 1.4+ solar mass and once again goes crazy on us, and obviously this gets a whole lot worse yet for us if Sirius(B) merges with Sirius(A). Also, imagine how much extra vibrant Sirius(B) had to have been before becoming that red supergiant. Our current elliptical trek velocity with Sirius is only 7.6 km/s (roughly 7 fold faster than Sedna), of perhaps an increasing orbital period of 105,000 ~ 110,000 years, as well as that of our predictably speeding up as we get closer. In other words, it’s technically impossible for us to not be gravitationally linked by those substantial tidal forces imposed by the still massive Sirius star/ solar system, and this should be especially obvious since we’re clearly headed back towards Sirius. The only ones objecting to this interpretation are the most devout ZNRs and their mainstream army of brown-nosed minions that continually topic/author stalk and bash all other interpretations for sport. Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
On Feb 20, 9:44*am, Brad Guth wrote:
The real David J. Tholen (David Tholen) knows better than most of us combined. *We are in fact tidal bound to the still massive Sirius star/ solar system (for the same reason little red and icy Sedna that's never closer than 76 AU isn't going anywhere), though not nearly as strongly as when that massive molecular cloud was only recently forming those extremely vibrant nearby stars, whereas the complex environment within our relatively passive solar system as well as that of Earth has been affected by this nearby source of gravity and energy. Unfortunately, the spooks, moles and clowns as the resident impostors of Usenet have no moral fiber between the entire lot of themselves, and the original owners of a given name are usually fully aware of this. *So why hasn't David Tholen or any other real Tholen spoken a good or bad word about their impostor? On the other hand, if I were in charge of running our NASA or DARPA according to the mutually perpetrated cold-war era, plus all the usual cloak and dagger ways of our past, present and future, whereas if our resident impostor ‘tholen’, Marty and of course those ‘seans’ didn’t already exist, as such I’d sure as hell invent as many brown-nosed impostors and rusemasters as possible (including faith-based clowns like Art Deco and Saul Levy), especially once this open Usenet method of global publishing went so easily public as a free-for-all investigative news and story telling medium that virtually everyone with half a brain (even if it’s K12 dysfunctional) has access to. *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” Clearly the mainstream status quo wants nothing but conditional laws of physics to apply on behalf of defending their faith-based approved interpretation as to how everything works, and otherwise inverted or twisted physics as reutilized in order to disqualify and/or banish all other interpretations via obfuscation and denials of whatever evidence or deductive interpretations come along. On Mar 3, 6:43 am, "Hagar" wrote: : Yea, those pesky ice-ages, they come and go, with regularity. : It's just unfortunate that you Climate Change nutters want to : completely bury any reference to the Medieval Climatic Anomaly. : Pretty much like Ostriches stick their heads in the sand, you : Liberal Loons stick your heads up your asses, whenever something : happens that you poor ****s can't come to grips with. : Oh yea ... and you start babbling nonsense .... like brain-farts. Actually there were a couple of rather abrupt changes in those pesky ice-age cycles, such as those of 41,000 years and those of merely 25,000 year cycles that came about as we go back in time. It's exactly as though our orbit or elliptical association with Sirius and the mutual “Sirius supercluster” barycenter/centroid thereof was relatively nearby at first, as well as the all-inclusive mass of the original Sirius star/solar system was much greater (not to mention the originating molecular cloud of 1e6 fold greater yet). Like the icy and reddish planetoid Sedna, a trans-Neptunian object having a fairly sharp elliptic orbital trek of 12,059 years that never manages to directly orbit the sun (only gets within 76 AU before it heads way the hell out past 975 AU), but otherwise it never manages to break away from us because of those pesky Newtonian forces at play, whereas the exact same laws orbital and elliptical dynamics apply to our solar system and that of the Sirius(abc) grip. With Sirius we may never get any closer than one light year, although encounters of 0.1 ly and possibly even 0.086 ly might have been the norm back 250500 MY when there was originally offering so much extra gravity influence (25e30 kg) to work with, and it’s otherwise exactly as though the Sirius star system had lost or rather blown away considerable mass a couple of times (possibly including the loss of Sirius C), and perhaps it’ll happen once more as Sirius(B) eventually rebuilds itself 1.4+ solar mass and once again goes crazy on us, plus Sirius(A) should start becoming a red giant, and obviously this nearby stellar outcome only gets a whole lot worse for us if Sirius(B) merges with Sirius(A). Also, imagine how much extra bluish vibrant Sirius(B) of 8.5 Ms had to have been as of long before becoming that red supergiant which only somewhat recently (64128 MYBP) terminated into becoming a white dwarf. The one thing most all of modern astronomy can agree upon is that Sirius which could have originally been a trinary system isn’t a tenth as old as our solar system, and thereby represents a recent contribution that’s of sufficient mass and energy as having affected our environment from time to time. Of course the faith-based naysayers are not buying into any of this, so we might as well toss out all use of physics and science because no matters what, it seems they could care less what anyone else interprets about the surrounding stars and their Eden that was created only for white Zionists to dominate. Our current elliptical closing velocity with Sirius is only 7.6 km/s (roughly 7 fold faster than Sedna), of perhaps an increasing orbital period of 105,000 ~ 110,000 years, as well as that of our predictably speeding up as we get closer. In other words, it’s technically impossible for us to not be gravitationally linked by those substantial tidal forces imposed by the still massive Sirius star/ solar system, and this should be especially obvious since we’re clearly headed back towards Sirius. The only ones objecting to this interpretation are of course the most devout ZNRs and their mainstream army of brown-nosed minions that continually topic/author stalk and bash all other interpretations for sport. Any one of many existing public funded supercomputers and its multi- body orbital 3D simulations of well known items, such as our solar system and the dozen or less nearby stars, should be easily accomplished along with accommodating our personal what-if variables that could easily manage this openly subjective research, but oddly this kind of public funded resource having been excluded or banished as though its all way too dark and scary and/or having been taboo/ nondisclosure rated. Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
On Feb 20, 9:44*am, Brad Guth wrote:
The real David J. Tholen (David Tholen) knows better than most of us combined. *We are in fact tidal bound to the still massive Sirius star/ solar system (for the same reason little red and icy Sedna that's never closer than 76 AU isn't going anywhere), though not nearly as strongly as when that massive molecular cloud was only recently forming those extremely vibrant nearby stars, whereas the complex environment within our relatively passive solar system as well as that of Earth has been affected by this nearby source of gravity and energy. Unfortunately, the spooks, moles and clowns as the resident impostors of Usenet have no moral fiber between the entire lot of themselves, and the original owners of a given name are usually fully aware of this. *So why hasn't David Tholen or any other real Tholen spoken a good or bad word about their impostor? On the other hand, if I were in charge of running our NASA or DARPA according to the mutually perpetrated cold-war era, plus all the usual cloak and dagger ways of our past, present and future, whereas if our resident impostor ‘tholen’, Marty and of course those ‘seans’ didn’t already exist, as such I’d sure as hell invent as many brown-nosed impostors and rusemasters as possible (including faith-based clowns like Art Deco and Saul Levy), especially once this open Usenet method of global publishing went so easily public as a free-for-all investigative news and story telling medium that virtually everyone with half a brain (even if it’s K12 dysfunctional) has access to. *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” The interstellar trek to Sirius isn’t as tough or even humanly insurmountable as you might think. Actually the interstellar gravity null point of no return for Sirius isn't all that far away (somewhat like our Earth-moon L1), not to mention that we're already closing that Sirius gap at 7.6 km/sec. In other words, once having slowed to near zero velocity with respect to departing away from our solar system (Sol-Sirius-L1 being 3.2 ly from Sol), is still trekking along towards Sirius at 7.6 km/sec, or you simply add 7.6 km/s onto whatever escape/exit velocity that exist while passing through the SS-L1. http://www.orbitsimulator.com/formul...intFinder.html http://plus.maths.org/issue36/featur...ell/index.html “Now, it just so happens that the delta V needed for the one and a half million kilometre journey from LL1 to EL2 is only 0.014 km/s - no faster than a cyclist! The fact that the energy levels of this Lunar Lagrange and Earth Lagrange point are so similar is purely a coincidence, but it opens up a fabulous opportunity for space exploration. There is an ultra-low energy pathway between these two crucial points in space - meaning no "uphill struggle" in either direction and spacecraft can travel between the two with virtually no fuel.” “However, due to this low-energy pathway, faulty spacecraft could be commanded to coast back to LL1, practically for free. NASA has been seriously considering LL1 as an ideal location for a permanent space- station. Not only would a space habitat be an astounding human achievement, but it could serve as a repair station for faulty satellites returning along the EL2-LL1 pathway.” http://www.gg.caltech.edu/~mwl/publi...AndOrigins.pdf Guess what; The exact same thing applies for interstellar treks, and the essential slowing down part is just another proper matter of reversing everything, or for those of us in a hurry there’s always applying those easily controlled nuclear thrust or retro-detonations as specified by William Mook, as well as otherwise if need be for accelerating and deceleration of everything at a conservative one gee. ~ BG |
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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
On Feb 20, 9:44*am, Brad Guth wrote:
The real David J. Tholen (David Tholen) knows better than most of us combined. *We are in fact tidal bound to the still massive Sirius star/ solar system (for the same reason little red and icy Sedna that's never closer than 76 AU isn't going anywhere), though not nearly as strongly as when that massive molecular cloud was only recently forming those extremely vibrant nearby stars, whereas the complex environment within our relatively passive solar system as well as that of Earth has been affected by this nearby source of gravity and energy. Unfortunately, the spooks, moles and clowns as the resident impostors of Usenet have no moral fiber between the entire lot of themselves, and the original owners of a given name are usually fully aware of this. *So why hasn't David Tholen or any other real Tholen spoken a good or bad word about their impostor? On the other hand, if I were in charge of running our NASA or DARPA according to the mutually perpetrated cold-war era, plus all the usual cloak and dagger ways of our past, present and future, whereas if our resident impostor ‘tholen’, Marty and of course those ‘seans’ didn’t already exist, as such I’d sure as hell invent as many brown-nosed impostors and rusemasters as possible (including faith-based clowns like Art Deco and Saul Levy), especially once this open Usenet method of global publishing went so easily public as a free-for-all investigative news and story telling medium that virtually everyone with half a brain (even if it’s K12 dysfunctional) has access to. *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” Clearly the mainstream status quo that’s protected by an army of mostly public funded brown-nosed minions and parrots, wants nothing but their own conditional laws of physics to apply on behalf of defending their faith-based approved interpretation as to how everything works, and otherwise inverted or twisted physics as reutilized in order to disqualify and/or banish all other interpretations via obfuscation, denials and essentially banishment of whatever evidence or deductive interpretations come along. Their PA(pretend atheism) cloak and supposed political neutrality are merely further dead giveaways as to their ZNR approved ulterior motives, but then who doesn’t hide behind a little something in order to protect their backside and those usually public-funded benefits that are always so sought after. On Mar 3, 6:43 am, "Hagar" wrote: : Yea, those pesky ice-ages, they come and go, with regularity. : It's just unfortunate that you Climate Change nutters want to : completely bury any reference to the Medieval Climatic Anomaly. : Pretty much like Ostriches stick their heads in the sand, you : Liberal Loons stick your heads up your asses, whenever something : happens that you poor ****s can't come to grips with. : Oh yea ... and you start babbling nonsense .... like brain-farts. Actually there were a couple of rather abrupt changes in those pesky ice-age cycles, such as those of 41,000 years and those of merely 25,000 year cycles that came about as we go back in time. It's exactly as though our orbit or elliptical association with Sirius and the mutual “Sirius supercluster” barycenter/centroid thereof was relatively nearby at first, as well as the all-inclusive mass of the original Sirius star/solar system was much greater (not to mention that originating molecular cloud of 1e6 fold greater yet). Like the icy and reddish planetoid Sedna, a trans-Neptunian object having a fairly sharp elliptic orbital trek of 12,059 years that never manages to directly orbit the sun (only gets within 76 AU before it turns and heads way the hell out past 975 AU), but otherwise it never manages to break away from our solar system because of those pesky Newtonian tidal forces at play, whereas the exact same laws orbital and elliptical dynamics apply to our solar system and that of the dominate Sirius(abc) grip. With Sirius we may never get any closer than one light year, although previous encounters of 0.1 ly and possibly even 0.086 ly might have been the norm back 250500 MY when there was originally so much extra gravity influence (25e30 kg) to work with, and it’s otherwise exactly as though the Sirius star system had lost or rather blown away considerable mass a couple of times (possibly including the loss of Sirius C), and perhaps it’ll happen once more as Sirius(B) eventually rebuilds itself 1.4+ solar mass and once again goes crazy on us, plus Sirius(A) should start becoming a red giant, and obviously this nearby stellar outcome only gets a whole lot worse for us if Sirius(B) merges with Sirius(A). Also, imagine how much extra bluish vibrant Sirius(B) of 8.5 Ms had to have been as of long before becoming that red supergiant which only somewhat recently (64128 MYBP) terminated into becoming a white dwarf. The one thing most all of modern astronomy can agree upon is that Sirius which could have originally been a trinary system isn’t a tenth as old as our solar system, and thereby represents a recent contribution that’s of sufficient mass and energy as having affected our environment from time to time. Of course the faith-based naysayers are not buying into any of this, so we might as well toss out all use of physics and science because no matters what, it seems they could care less what anyone else interprets about the surrounding stars and their Eden that was created only for white Zionists to dominate. Our current elliptical closing velocity with Sirius is only 7.6 km/s (roughly 7 fold faster than Sedna), of perhaps an increasing orbital period of 105,000 ~ 110,000 years, as well as that of our predictably speeding up as we get closer. In other words, it’s technically impossible for us to not be gravitationally linked by those substantial tidal forces imposed by the still massive Sirius star/ solar system, and this should be especially obvious since we’re clearly headed back towards Sirius. The only ones objecting to this interpretation are of course the most devout ZNRs and their mainstream army of brown-nosed minions that continually topic/author stalk and bash all other interpretations for sport. Any one of many existing public-funded supercomputers and its multi- body orbital 3D simulations of sufficiently well known items, such as our solar system and the dozen or less nearby stars, should be easily accomplished along with accommodating our personal what-if variables that could easily manage this openly subjective research, but oddly this kind of public funded resource having been excluded or banished as though its all way too dark and scary and/or having been taboo/ nondisclosure rated. Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
On Feb 20, 9:44*am, Brad Guth wrote:
The real David J. Tholen (David Tholen) knows better than most of us combined. *We are in fact tidal bound to the still massive Sirius star/ solar system (for the same reason little red and icy Sedna that's never closer than 76 AU isn't going anywhere), though not nearly as strongly as when that massive molecular cloud was only recently forming those extremely vibrant nearby stars, whereas the complex environment within our relatively passive solar system as well as that of Earth has been affected by this nearby source of gravity and energy. Unfortunately, the spooks, moles and clowns as the resident impostors of Usenet have no moral fiber between the entire lot of themselves, and the original owners of a given name are usually fully aware of this. *So why hasn't David Tholen or any other real Tholen spoken a good or bad word about their impostor? On the other hand, if I were in charge of running our NASA or DARPA according to the mutually perpetrated cold-war era, plus all the usual cloak and dagger ways of our past, present and future, whereas if our resident impostor ‘tholen’, Marty and of course those ‘seans’ didn’t already exist, as such I’d sure as hell invent as many brown-nosed impostors and rusemasters as possible (including faith-based clowns like Art Deco and Saul Levy), especially once this open Usenet method of global publishing went so easily public as a free-for-all investigative news and story telling medium that virtually everyone with half a brain (even if it’s K12 dysfunctional) has access to. *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” Cosmological Ice Ages (by Henry Kroll), is simply offering further proofs that we're not alone, especially since our galaxy is clearly a composite of several dwarf galaxies and the likes of extremely newish stuff like the nearby Sirius star/solar system that isn’t a tenth as old as our solar system. The Newtonian example ratio of 8.3e7:1 (83 million to one) is exactly how much greater our solar system remains via Newtonian binding force, as having been attracted to the existing Sirius star/solar system, than otherwise associated with our 2005-VX3 being the little item (damocloid/asteroid) of 112 km diameter that’s forever attracted to the weak tidal force our sun. This Sirius:XV3 ratio of 83e6:1 is just another Newtonian matter of objective and peer accepted fact that you and others can replicate and take to your bank (unless it’s a kosher bank, in which case you're not allowed to deposit anything that’s not of their mainstream faith-based approval, because according to their long standing policy and subsequent rules applied to everyone else, Eden/Earth is always alone and supposedly all there is for accommodating any complex level of biodiversity, and everything about our environment is strictly terrestrial limited and somehow having nothing whatsoever to do with human or external factors because, apparently their Zionist version of Eden/Earth has been given unlimited and renewable resources of everything we need as is, except of course for an artificially inflated price of whatever the market will bare). However, the Cosmological Ice Ages (by Henry Kroll and a little from myself) are what’s most likely still in charge of whatever drives or motivates our global environment, at least to a much greater extent than given credit by those of us in charge of what the general media and public ever gets to learn about. It seems that our extremely weak force of gravity attraction to the robust Sirius star/solar system is obviously so much greater than say icy Sedna is attracted to our sun, and yet others here keep insisting that supposedly somehow we're not in the least bit gravity or tidal radii associated to that impressive star system. What the hell gives? Sirius and us(our solar system) are very much indeed inseparable, at least according to those regular pesky laws of physics pertaining to the mainstream accepted notions of Newtonian gravity and orbital mechanics, that seems way more than sufficient for everything else we’re told to accept, and especially if little Sedna can be turned around at a tidal radii of 1.459e14 m that’s worth merely 2.975e13 N, whereas Sirius at 8.6 light years and worth 1.417e17 N (that’s roughly a 20 thousand fold stronger tidal radii grip), and to think that we’ve been gaining on this 3.5 solar mass of Sirius by 7.6 km/sec, plus most likely and unavoidably accelerating towards our next close cosmological encounter within a orbital period of 105,000 ~ 110,000 years, and previously more often as we go back in time. It’s as though 65+ million years ago we were orbiting much closer to Sirius, and our environment especially influenced by the substantially large and vibrant spectrum of Sirius(B) wasn’t exactly none too dim. ~ BG |
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On Mar 5, 2:40*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Feb 20, 9:44*am, Brad Guth wrote: The real David J. Tholen (David Tholen) knows better than most of us combined. *We are in fact tidal bound to the still massive Sirius star/ solar system (for the same reason little red and icy Sedna that's never closer than 76 AU isn't going anywhere), though not nearly as strongly as when that massive molecular cloud was only recently forming those extremely vibrant nearby stars, whereas the complex environment within our relatively passive solar system as well as that of Earth has been affected by this nearby source of gravity and energy. Unfortunately, the spooks, moles and clowns as the resident impostors of Usenet have no moral fiber between the entire lot of themselves, and the original owners of a given name are usually fully aware of this. *So why hasn't David Tholen or any other real Tholen spoken a good or bad word about their impostor? On the other hand, if I were in charge of running our NASA or DARPA according to the mutually perpetrated cold-war era, plus all the usual cloak and dagger ways of our past, present and future, whereas if our resident impostor ‘tholen’, Marty and of course those ‘seans’ didn’t already exist, as such I’d sure as hell invent as many brown-nosed impostors and rusemasters as possible (including faith-based clowns like Art Deco and Saul Levy), especially once this open Usenet method of global publishing went so easily public as a free-for-all investigative news and story telling medium that virtually everyone with half a brain (even if it’s K12 dysfunctional) has access to. *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” Cosmological Ice Ages (by Henry Kroll), is simply offering further proofs that we're not alone, especially since our galaxy is clearly a composite of several dwarf galaxies and the likes of extremely newish stuff like the nearby Sirius star/solar system that isn’t a tenth as old as our solar system. The Newtonian example ratio of 8.3e7:1 (83 million to one) is exactly how much greater our solar system remains via Newtonian binding force, as having been attracted to the existing Sirius star/solar system, than otherwise associated with our 2005-VX3 being the little item (damocloid/asteroid) of 112 km diameter that’s forever attracted to the weak tidal force our sun. *This Sirius:XV3 ratio of 83e6:1 is just another Newtonian matter of objective and peer accepted fact that you and others can replicate and take to your bank (unless it’s a kosher bank, in which case you're not allowed to deposit anything that’s not of their mainstream faith-based approval, because according to their long standing policy and subsequent rules applied to everyone else, Eden/Earth is always alone and supposedly all there is for accommodating any complex level of biodiversity, and everything about our environment is strictly terrestrial limited and somehow having nothing whatsoever to do with human or external factors because, apparently their Zionist version of Eden/Earth has been given unlimited and renewable resources of everything we need as is, except of course for an artificially inflated price of whatever the market will bare). However, the Cosmological Ice Ages (by Henry Kroll and a little from myself) are what’s most likely still in charge of whatever drives or motivates our global environment, at least to a much greater extent than given credit by those of us in charge of what the general media and public ever gets to learn about. It seems that our extremely weak force of gravity attraction to the robust Sirius star/solar system is obviously so much greater than say icy Sedna is attracted to our sun, and yet others here keep insisting that supposedly somehow we're not in the least bit gravity or tidal radii associated to that impressive star system. What the hell gives? Sirius and us(our solar system) are very much indeed inseparable, at least according to those regular pesky laws of physics pertaining to the mainstream accepted notions of Newtonian gravity and orbital mechanics, that seems way more than sufficient for everything else we’re told to accept, and especially if little Sedna can be turned around at a tidal radii of 1.459e14 m that’s worth merely 2.975e13 N, whereas Sirius at 8.6 light years and worth 1.417e17 N (that’s roughly a 20 thousand fold stronger tidal radii grip), and to think that we’ve been gaining on this 3.5 solar mass of Sirius by 7.6 km/sec, plus most likely and unavoidably accelerating towards our next close cosmological encounter within a orbital period of 105,000 ~ 110,000 years, and previously more often as we go back in time. *It’s as though 65+ million years ago we were orbiting much closer to Sirius, and our environment especially influenced by the substantially large and vibrant spectrum of Sirius(B) wasn’t exactly none too dim. Many places are simply too far away, whereas mainly it’s because the vast majority have been moving away from us as fast or faster than science-future technology can catch.. However there are a few obvious exceptions, such as the interstellar trek to/from Sirius isn’t nearly as tough or even humanly insurmountable as you might think, especially interesting if your spacecraft is that of an icy asteroid or proto- moon. Actually the interstellar gateway or gravity null point of no return for Sirius isn't all that far away (somewhat like our Earth-moon L1 that’s extremely delta V efficient), not to mention that we're already closing that Sirius gap at 7.6 km/sec. In other words, once having slowed to near zero velocity with respect to departing away from our solar system (Sol-Sirius-L1 being 3.2 ly from Sol), is still trekking our spacecraft or probes towards Sirius at 7.6 km/sec, or you simply add 7.6 km/s onto whatever escape/exit velocity that exist while passing through the SS-L1. (the actual SS-L1 gateway is much closer if you account for the -7.6 km/s) http://www.orbitsimulator.com/formul...intFinder.html http://plus.maths.org/issue36/featur...ell/index.html “Now, it just so happens that the delta V needed for the one and a half million kilometre journey from LL1 to EL2 is only 0.014 km/s - no faster than a cyclist! The fact that the energy levels of this Lunar Lagrange and Earth Lagrange point are so similar is purely a coincidence, but it opens up a fabulous opportunity for space exploration. There is an ultra-low energy pathway between these two crucial points in space - meaning no "uphill struggle" in either direction and spacecraft can travel between the two with virtually no fuel.” “However, due to this low-energy pathway, faulty spacecraft could be commanded to coast back to LL1, practically for free. NASA has been seriously considering LL1 as an ideal location for a permanent space- station. Not only would a space habitat be an astounding human achievement, but it could serve as a repair station for faulty satellites returning along the EL2-LL1 pathway.” http://www.gg.caltech.edu/~mwl/publi...AndOrigins.pdf Guess what; The exact same thing applies for interstellar treks, and the essential slowing down part is just another proper matter of reversing everything, or for those of us in a greater hurry there’s always applying those easily controlled nuclear thrust or retro- detonations as specified by William Mook, as well as otherwise if need be for accelerating and deceleration of everything at a conservative one gee (trust me, in that our William Mook has all the necessary details, and then some). ~ BG |
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Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth
On Mar 5, 2:40*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Feb 20, 9:44*am, Brad Guth wrote: The real David J. Tholen (David Tholen) knows better than most of us combined. *We are in fact tidal bound to the still massive Sirius star/ solar system (for the same reason little red and icy Sedna that's never closer than 76 AU isn't going anywhere), though not nearly as strongly as when that massive molecular cloud was only recently forming those extremely vibrant nearby stars, whereas the complex environment within our relatively passive solar system as well as that of Earth has been affected by this nearby source of gravity and energy. Unfortunately, the spooks, moles and clowns as the resident impostors of Usenet have no moral fiber between the entire lot of themselves, and the original owners of a given name are usually fully aware of this. *So why hasn't David Tholen or any other real Tholen spoken a good or bad word about their impostor? On the other hand, if I were in charge of running our NASA or DARPA according to the mutually perpetrated cold-war era, plus all the usual cloak and dagger ways of our past, present and future, whereas if our resident impostor ‘tholen’, Marty and of course those ‘seans’ didn’t already exist, as such I’d sure as hell invent as many brown-nosed impostors and rusemasters as possible (including faith-based clowns like Art Deco and Saul Levy), especially once this open Usenet method of global publishing went so easily public as a free-for-all investigative news and story telling medium that virtually everyone with half a brain (even if it’s K12 dysfunctional) has access to. *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” Cosmological Ice Ages (by Henry Kroll), is simply offering further proofs that we're not alone, especially since our galaxy is clearly a composite of several dwarf galaxies and the likes of extremely newish stuff like the nearby Sirius star/solar system that isn’t a tenth as old as our solar system. The Newtonian example ratio of 8.3e7:1 (83 million to one) is exactly how much greater our solar system remains via Newtonian binding force, as having been attracted to the existing Sirius star/solar system, than otherwise associated with our 2005-VX3 being the little item (damocloid/asteroid) of 112 km diameter that’s forever attracted to the weak tidal force our sun. *This Sirius:XV3 ratio of 83e6:1 is just another Newtonian matter of objective and peer accepted fact that you and others can replicate and take to your bank (unless it’s a kosher bank, in which case you're not allowed to deposit anything that’s not of their mainstream faith-based approval, because according to their long standing policy and subsequent rules applied to everyone else, Eden/Earth is always alone and supposedly all there is for accommodating any complex level of biodiversity, and everything about our environment is strictly terrestrial limited and somehow having nothing whatsoever to do with human or external factors because, apparently their Zionist version of Eden/Earth has been given unlimited and renewable resources of everything we need as is, except of course for an artificially inflated price of whatever the market will bare). However, the Cosmological Ice Ages (by Henry Kroll and a little from myself) are what’s most likely still in charge of whatever drives or motivates our global environment, at least to a much greater extent than given credit by those of us in charge of what the general media and public ever gets to learn about. It seems that our extremely weak force of gravity attraction to the robust Sirius star/solar system is obviously so much greater than say icy Sedna is attracted to our sun, and yet others here keep insisting that supposedly somehow we're not in the least bit gravity or tidal radii associated to that impressive star system. What the hell gives? Sirius and us(our solar system) are very much indeed inseparable, at least according to those regular pesky laws of physics pertaining to the mainstream accepted notions of Newtonian gravity and orbital mechanics, that seems way more than sufficient for everything else we’re told to accept, and especially if little Sedna can be turned around at a tidal radii of 1.459e14 m that’s worth merely 2.975e13 N, whereas Sirius at 8.6 light years and worth 1.417e17 N (that’s roughly a 20 thousand fold stronger tidal radii grip), and to think that we’ve been gaining on this 3.5 solar mass of Sirius by 7.6 km/sec, plus most likely and unavoidably accelerating towards our next close cosmological encounter within a orbital period of 105,000 ~ 110,000 years, and previously more often as we go back in time. *It’s as though 65+ million years ago we were orbiting much closer to Sirius, and our environment especially influenced by the substantially large and vibrant spectrum of Sirius(B) wasn’t exactly none too dim. *~ BG All stars are highly magnetic items to start off with, and as they consume their fuel is when the intensity of their magnetic force increases substantially. However, it seems as though 99.9% of public funded research that’s specifically pertaining to anything of Sirius is either forbidden or taboo/nondisclosure rated. It's almost as weird as our still not having any public funded objective science pertaining to raw ice existing/coexisting in the vacuum of 1 AU space, much less upon our physically dark and mineral saturated moon that’s seemingly more paramagnetic than Earth. The earth-moon L1(Selene L1) should offer a vacuum of at least 3e-18 bar, although it's possibly worth as little as 3e-21 bar. At such vacuum even the most cryogenic ice should boil off or rather sublime away rather quickly unless there some weird kind of molecular diamagnetic bonding going on. By stellar evolutionary rights, Sirius(B) that used to be a very big and vibrant sucker of 17e30 kg, should have become one hell of a magnet worth 1e61e9 gauss, and it seems likely that the Sirius(A) magnetic field is not exactly passive. So, at best it’s an extremely intense magnetic field that's always existing between those two stars, whereas the pull of Sirius(B) has to win every time. Eventually Sirius(B) should rebuild enough mass to once again either flashover and become a neutron star or merge with Sirius(A). What could possibly go wrong for us outside of our heading towards Sirius at 7.6 km/s and accelerating? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_dwarf#Magnetic_field “Since then magnetic fields have been discovered in well over 100 white dwarfs, ranging from 2×10e3 to10e9 gauss (0.2 T to 100 kT).” Is there any reason to perceive that Sirius(B) isn’t extremely magnetic and pulling at everything within 10 AU? So the larger and older the star the more magnetar worthy they become, whereas the larger they started off is the most likely determination as to how potent that magnetic field eventually gets, and perhaps much like gravity there’s no outer limits as to the range of detecting that magnetic force. Our passive sun currently offers an average 14 gauss/ m2 and those solar spots 3000 gauss (perhaps averaging 10 gauss compared to ours of 0.6 gauss), so you can imagine the what-if field intensity when a white dwarf becomes worth 1e9 gauss/m2. Magnetars are of course much stronger, suggesting their original solar mass of 40+ that can produce a magnetar of 1e15 gauss. ~ BG |
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