Two years to get this right

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16625614

It is the easiest thing in the world to state that these people simply
do not know what they are dealing with or that they are merely
treading a road laid down for them by those who drew an exceptionally
poor conclusion in the late 17th century but there is so much more to
this that would occupy a dozen people for the next two years
separating what is a civil convenience from what is not.

The leap second was always a bogus conclusion drawn from the most
spurious reasoning hence it should go however not for the reasons now
stated by those using VLBI reckoning.

The people pushing for the abandonment of leap seconds either pay lip
service to the empirical community or simply ignore them hence the
dismal situation where those once promoting the 'solar vs sidereal'
agenda are being pushed aside for a 'new ' approach which doesn't even
bother to refer rotation to any external reference or promotes the
accuracy of clocks instead.

"At the time of the dinosaurs, Earth completed one rotation in about
23 hours," says MacMillan, who is a member of the VLBI team at NASA
Goddard. "In the year 1820, a rotation took exactly 24 hours, or
86,400 standard seconds. Since 1820, the mean solar day has increased
by about 2.5 milliseconds."

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsyst...ra-second.html

There is no greater authority than the original texts which include
the original references and none of which support stellar circumpolar
motion as a reference for daily rotation.Were they to go ahead and
state that they sever the ties between the Earth's rotation and
timekeeping,they are effectively compounding a mistake that has
already wrecked havoc between planetary dynamics and terrestrial
effects.

This cannot happen.

"oriel36" wrote in message
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16625614

It is the easiest thing in the world to state that these people simply
do not know what they are dealing with or that they are merely
treading a road laid down for them by those who drew an exceptionally
poor conclusion in the late 17th century but there is so much more to
this that would occupy a dozen people for the next two years
separating what is a civil convenience from what is not.

The leap second was always a bogus conclusion
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It is the easiest thing in the world to state that Kelleher simply does not
know
what the **** his bogus intellect is dealing with. As the Earth turns in the
gravitational field of the Moon the tides are drawn to rise and fall and
energy
can be drawn from them. This causes the Earth to slow, and to keep time
leap seconds are needed. Bogus Kelleher's bogus intellect is far too stupid
to
understand that.

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On Dec 25, 1:51*pm, oriel36 wrote:
they are effectively compounding a mistake that has
already wrecked havoc between planetary dynamics and terrestrial
effects.

I think you mean _wreaked_ havoc; it causes havoc, it does not break
the havoc.

John Savard

You have these engineers trying to play astronomers and who couldn't
care less about astronomy or planetary dynamics but require the 24
hour AM/PM cycle for all the conveniences in a satellite age.They are
working off the 24 hour AM/PM system in tandem with the 1461 day
calendar system formatted as 365/366 days rather than raw dynamics
which assign 365 1/4 days per annual circuit.A system that asserts
1465 rotations in 1461 days is fatally corrupt yet these people want
the wider population to believe that the Earth is a poor timekeeper by
virtue of misreading a simple observation !.

Is there any person with a genuine love of astronomy who understands
something of this issue and what it means ?.Does anyone really believe
contrived nonsense at a time when imaging power is now only coming
into its own and a new form of interpretative astronomy is
emerging ?.Look at the following rubbish that engineers would have
people believe and in such a blatant way -

"The UK, though, says any problems are exaggerated - and that losing
the leap second could cause long-term problems, as the time based on
the atomic clocks and the time based on the Earth's rotation would
move ever further apart.Over decades, this would amount to a minute's
difference, but over 500 years this could be an hour, and over
thousands of years, the Sun could be setting when atomic clocks claim
it is morning."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16625614

I too takes these walks and in rare times sense the 'Behold' in
creation and the pace to which all life keeps in step from the most
immediate of the day to the long journey towards summer or winter and
would have so many others experience both the gentleness and power of
astronomy in turns but in this era stuck in clockwork solar system
mode,and even that is going to be rejected,the errors which can now be
easily corrected with time are going to be expanded further.

On Dec 26, 1:29*am, oriel36 wrote:
A system that asserts
1465 rotations in 1461 days is fatally corrupt yet these people want
the wider population to believe that the Earth is a poor timekeeper by
virtue of misreading a simple observation !.

The Earth's rotation does slow over time. That doesn't make it a poor
timekeeper, it's still much more accurate than any clock wound up with
springs. But we are now able to measure time to very high accuracy,
and this level of accuracy is needed for some purposes.

It is not pretentious to take into account our genuine current
technological ability to measure time, and our uses for precise time
measurement.

John Savard