Historical eclipses and Earth’s rotation

Historical eclipses and Earth’s rotation
http://hbar.phys.msu.ru/gorm/atext/steph2003.pdf

On Dec 22, 6:05*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
Historical eclipses and Earth’s rotation
* *http://hbar.phys.msu.ru/gorm/atext/steph2003.pdf

How sweet and I have seen a thousand such assertions like it but the
fundamental unit of timekeeping remains the numbers of days/rotations
to years/annual circuits since the Egyptians first noticed that the
star Sirius does not emerge from the glare of the central Sun after
consecutive 365 days but takes an extra day/rotation to maintain the
correspondence between daily rotation and the orbital points of the
Solstices and Equinoxes.

I thought you would immediately denounce NASA for imagining the Earth
turns once in 24 hours,after all,you spent over a decade promoting the
misguided right ascension conclusion.Just goes to show how people can
change things even as they try to come up with an equally bad concept
using the year 1820.

So tell me Sam,what do you teach you students now as to how long it
takes the Earth to turn once ? -don't bother,I already know what a
chameleon does.

On Dec 22, 6:05*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
Historical eclipses and Earth’s rotation
* *http://hbar.phys.msu.ru/gorm/atext/steph2003.pdf

So,after a century concocting a story around absolute/relative time
which happens to be Newton's attempt to obfuscate the difference
between natural noon AM/PM and 24 hour noon AM/PM via the Equation of
Time,they now devise a new story which may look closer to the truth
but is actually making a poor conclusion even worse.

"At the time of the dinosaurs, Earth completed one rotation in about
23 hours," says MacMillan, who is a member of the VLBI team at NASA
Goddard. "In the year 1820, a rotation took exactly 24 hours, or
86,400 standard seconds. Since 1820, the mean solar day has increased
by about 2.5 milliseconds."

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsyst...ra-second.html

Having a commanding view of the topic means little in this era but
what I do see is how easy it is to change the structure without the
slightest hint that they previously held to an alternative length of
time for rotation.It is just as easy to collate the original
references which create the calendar cycle where days/years transfer
directly into rotations/orbital cycles instead of conjuring up more
rubbish based on VLBI reckoning notwithstanding that it would be a
remarkable convenience were scientists perceptive enough to know its
limitations.

After playing the fool for late 17th century Royal Society
empiricists,do you now want to play fools all over again for the new
anonymous bunch who have less a regard for the connection between
planetary dynamics and terrestrial effects than they did 3 centuries
ago ?.

"oriel36" wrote in message
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On Dec 22, 6:05 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
Historical eclipses and Earth’s rotation
http://hbar.phys.msu.ru/gorm/atext/steph2003.pdf

So,after a century concocting a story around absolute/relative time
which happens to be Newton's attempt to obfuscate the difference
between natural noon AM/PM and 24 hour noon AM/PM via the Equation of
Time,they now devise a new story which may look closer to the truth
but is actually making a poor conclusion even worse.

"At the time of the dinosaurs, Earth completed one rotation in about
23 hours," says MacMillan, who is a member of the VLBI team at NASA
Goddard. "In the year 1820, a rotation took exactly 24 hours, or
86,400 standard seconds. Since 1820, the mean solar day has increased
by about 2.5 milliseconds."

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsyst...ra-second.html

Having a commanding view of the topic means little in this era but
what I do see is how easy it is to change the structure without the
slightest hint that they previously held to an alternative length of
time for rotation.It is just as easy to collate the original
references which create the calendar cycle where days/years transfer
directly into rotations/orbital cycles instead of conjuring up more
rubbish based on VLBI reckoning notwithstanding that it would be a
remarkable convenience were scientists perceptive enough to know its
limitations.

After playing the fool for late 17th century Royal Society
empiricists,do you now want to play fools all over again for the new
anonymous bunch who have less a regard for the connection between
planetary dynamics and terrestrial effects than they did 3 centuries
ago ?.
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After being the ****ing idiot for early 1st century Kelleher communists,
do you now want to play ****ing moron all over again for the new
anonymous oriel36 bunch who have less a regard for observation than
they did 23 centuries ago, you crazy cretin?


-- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway.
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On Dec 22, 6:05*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
Historical eclipses and Earth’s rotation
* *http://hbar.phys.msu.ru/gorm/atext/steph2003.pdf

Sam

I am not unhappy with this new development,it was going to happen
anyway with the attempt to sever timekeeping from astronomy and the
planetary cycles using 'leap seconds' leaving nothing to work with and
consider.So,you all have a certain length of time to adjust to the
'new' story and in time you will firmly believe that you never held to
the 'solar vs sidereal' conception just as you are doing now.

Teach your students as best you can about the 1461 day cycle as the
foundation of timekeeping and how the later 24 hour AM/PM cycle works
in tandem with the Lat/Long system as though you took pride in the
title of astronomer.

On 12/23/12 2:15 PM, oriel36 wrote:
On Dec 22, 6:05 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
Historical eclipses and Earth’s rotation
http://hbar.phys.msu.ru/gorm/atext/steph2003.pdf

Sam

I am not unhappy with this new development,it was going to happen
anyway with the attempt to sever timekeeping from astronomy and the
planetary cycles using 'leap seconds' leaving nothing to work with and
consider.So,you all have a certain length of time to adjust to the
'new' story and in time you will firmly believe that you never held to
the 'solar vs sidereal' conception just as you are doing now.

Teach your students as best you can about the 1461 day cycle as the
foundation of timekeeping and how the later 24 hour AM/PM cycle works
in tandem with the Lat/Long system as though you took pride in the
title of astronomer.


You are not happy with most of modern physics and astronomy, Gerald.
But don't let that turn you in to a "bah humbug" type in this season.
Show a bit of compassion and good will!

On Dec 23, 8:41*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 12/23/12 2:15 PM, oriel36 wrote:









On Dec 22, 6:05 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
Historical eclipses and Earth’s rotation
* * http://hbar.phys.msu.ru/gorm/atext/steph2003.pdf

Sam

I am not unhappy with this new development,it was going to happen
anyway with the attempt to sever timekeeping from astronomy and the
planetary cycles using 'leap seconds' leaving nothing to work with and
consider.So,you all have a certain length of time to adjust to the
'new' story and in time you will firmly believe that you never held to
the 'solar vs sidereal' conception just as you are doing now.

Teach your students as best you can about the 1461 day cycle as the
foundation of timekeeping and how the later 24 hour AM/PM cycle works
in tandem with the Lat/Long system as though you took pride in the
title of astronomer.

* *You are not happy with most of modern physics and astronomy, Gerald.
* *But don't let that turn you in to a "bah humbug" type in this season.
* *Show a bit of compassion and good will!

You have a 'new' story which assumes the Earth turns once in 24 hours
exactly in 1820 as if you never held to the previous belief that it
turns once through stellar circumpolar motion or are you having
trouble reading ? -

"At the time of the dinosaurs, Earth completed one rotation in about
23 hours," says MacMillan, who is a member of the VLBI team at NASA
Goddard. "In the year 1820, a rotation took exactly 24 hours, or
86,400 standard seconds. Since 1820, the mean solar day has increased
by about 2.5 milliseconds."

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsyst...ra-second.html

Compassion !,what mind goes about destroying the original principles
which link the planetary cycles to terrestrial effects and timekeeping
over thousands of years of human accomplishment and knowingly will
indoctrinate the students/victims into the new mode of thinking using
VLBI reckoning ?.

You have already distanced yourself from the solar vs sidereal'
conception just as many other have but in doing so you will take up
something far worse.Compassion, gentleness, human
kindness,intelligence,joy in competition,love of what our ancestors
did,excitement in teaching kids properly - none of these things I have
seen so far but by God they will see them.

On Dec 23, 2:58*am, oriel36 quoted, in
part:

"At the time of the dinosaurs, Earth completed one rotation in about
23 hours," says MacMillan, who is a member of the VLBI team at NASA
Goddard. "In the year 1820, a rotation took exactly 24 hours, or
86,400 standard seconds. Since 1820, the mean solar day has increased
by about 2.5 milliseconds."

At NASA, they realize that the fact that in an important sense, the
Earth really rotates once every 23 hours, 56 minutes, and 4 seconds
instead of every 24 hours... is complicated, hard to explain, and
confuses some people.

Like you.

So sometimes they leave it out when they don't need it. But don't
worry, they haven't really changed their minds or admitted they were
wrong.

John Savard

On Dec 23, 1:15*pm, oriel36 wrote:
So,you all have a certain length of time to adjust to the
'new' story and in time you will firmly believe that you never held to
the 'solar vs sidereal' conception just as you are doing now.

No redirection from Eurasia to Eastasia is in fact occuring at this
time. The Earth's rotation still takes 23 hours, 56 minutes, and 4
seconds - but we will occasionally reserve the right to skip this
complicated detail.

John Savard

On Dec 23, 2:07*pm, oriel36 wrote:

You have a 'new' story which assumes the Earth turns once in 24 hours
exactly in 1820 as if you never held to the previous belief that it
turns once through stellar circumpolar motion or are you having
trouble reading ? -

No, they have not always been at war with Eastasia at NASA. They still
hold resolutely to "stellar circumpolar motion" as the true yardstick
of the Earth's true rotation, and are merely skipping that detail
where it would waste time and confuse people.

John Savard