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Old December 5th 17, 07:38 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Newton's Principia was first published in 1686, and an English translation was
first published in 1728.

It was in 1758 that the general rule placing books advocating helocentricism on
the Index Prohibitorum was removed, although neither De Revolutionibis or the
Dialogue Concerning the Two World Systems was explicitly removed at that time,
they were absent when the next edition of the list came out in 1835.

I hold that the timing was not coincidental.

The Copernican hypothesis may have seemed to some people of a scientific spirit
to be more elegant, more simple, more symmetrical than the Ptolemaic system
which preceded it. However, a personal aesthetic preference... is something that
is open to debate, and could quite understandably be held to be insufficient to
contradict the apparent word of Scripture.

Newton, however, provided a mechanism for the movements of the bodies in the
Solar System. This mechanism gave a reason why the planets had to go around the
Sun instead of the Earth; the Sun was bigger than the Earth. Well, _that_ could
be considered to be merely hypothetical, but gravity and angular momentum could
explain motion in a Keplerian ellipse, but it had no way to explain epicycles.

It was in 1798 that the Cavendish experiment was reported... it is to its credit
that the Church did not need to wait until then to relent on heliocentricism.

John Savard
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Old December 6th 17, 07:26 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:38:57 UTC+1, Quadibloc wrote:
Newton's Principia was first published in 1686, and an English translation was
first published in 1728.

It was in 1758 that the general rule placing books advocating helocentricism on
the Index Prohibitorum was removed, although neither De Revolutionibis or the
Dialogue Concerning the Two World Systems was explicitly removed at that time,
they were absent when the next edition of the list came out in 1835.

I hold that the timing was not coincidental.

The Copernican hypothesis may have seemed to some people of a scientific spirit
to be more elegant, more simple, more symmetrical than the Ptolemaic system
which preceded it. However, a personal aesthetic preference... is something that
is open to debate, and could quite understandably be held to be insufficient to
contradict the apparent word of Scripture.

Newton, however, provided a mechanism for the movements of the bodies in the
Solar System. This mechanism gave a reason why the planets had to go around the
Sun instead of the Earth; the Sun was bigger than the Earth. Well, _that_ could
be considered to be merely hypothetical, but gravity and angular momentum could
explain motion in a Keplerian ellipse, but it had no way to explain epicycles.

It was in 1798 that the Cavendish experiment was reported... it is to its credit
that the Church did not need to wait until then to relent on heliocentricism.

John Savard


That's easy for you to say! 1461 is an absolute martyr to heliocentriffical spin on the blind bends of our differential orbital nodes of inferior, processional [iodal] wobblitudedness as a disadvantageous, minourly, latitudinal, relative velocities of planetoidal doobriwatsits before half past 13 cycloidals of Marchiness. Isn't it?
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Old December 6th 17, 07:43 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 11:26:20 AM UTC-7, Chris.B wrote:

That's easy for you to say! 1461 is an absolute martyr to heliocentriffical spin
on the blind bends of our differential orbital nodes of inferior, processional
[iodal] wobblitudedness as a disadvantageous, minourly, latitudinal, relative
velocities of planetoidal doobriwatsits before half past 13 cycloidals of
Marchiness. Isn't it?


Given that Oriel36 is in Ireland, I suppose it is somewhat appropriate that you
appear to be a fan of James Joyce, specifically Finnegan's Wake...

John Savard
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Old December 7th 17, 08:33 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:43:17 UTC+1, Quadibloc wrote:

Given that Oriel36 is in Ireland, I suppose it is somewhat appropriate that you
appear to be a fan of James Joyce, specifically Finnegan's Wake...



I'm afraid don't have any of his "acoustic" albums.
I much preferred Stanley Unwin's driving riffs on slæpped, electrisc basitude.
Though "Women of Ireland" has its leprokornish moments of pure melodolitrude.

Who is this Oriel 36 you speak of?
He couldn't be that 1920s, French, boy band member nobody has ever heard of?
I had no idea he had Irish roots?
But then, so many completely unknown artists do.
 




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