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The heck with this futile search for Martians. Let's send some
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"William Elliot" wrote in message ...
The heck with this futile search for Martians. Let's send some bacteria or algae that'll survive to become the first Martians. Do you think they'd have a chance of evolving into a space-faring civ- ilization if not even *we* can manage to move our sorry asses past low Earth orbit? I'm wondering what all this "finding alien life" craze is about. Is it about wishing we could find someone to hitch a ride with who's al- ready done all the work because we're too lazy to build spaceships of our own? Is it that?? If it were it would be *pathetic!* SETI as a bunch of would-be hippie freeloaders. -- __ "A good leader knows when it's best to ignore the __ ('__` screams for help and focus on the bigger picture." '__`) //6(6; ©OOL mmiv :^)^\\ `\_-/ http://home.t-online.de/home/ulrich....lmann/redbaron \-_/' |
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Ool wrote:
"William Elliot" wrote in message ... The heck with this futile search for Martians. Let's send some bacteria or algae that'll survive to become the first Martians. Do you think they'd have a chance of evolving into a space-faring civ- ilization No but perhaps they'd be nice to have around when the real Martians arrive. I'm wondering what all this "finding alien life" craze is about. Is it about wishing we could find someone to hitch a ride with who's al- ready done all the work because we're too lazy to build spaceships of our own? It's the carrot before the donkey that keeps the cart moving. |
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"William Elliot" wrote in message ...
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Ool wrote: I'm wondering what all this "finding alien life" craze is about. Is it about wishing we could find someone to hitch a ride with who's al- ready done all the work because we're too lazy to build spaceships of our own? It's the carrot before the donkey that keeps the cart moving. Only if it leads us to more than just sticking our thumbs out. -- __ "A good leader knows when it's best to ignore the __ ('__` screams for help and focus on the bigger picture." '__`) //6(6; ©OOL mmiv :^)^\\ `\_-/ http://home.t-online.de/home/ulrich....lmann/redbaron \-_/' |
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William Elliot wrote in
: The heck with this futile search for Martians. If we mindlessly charge in and destroy what may already be living there, we will have lost a priceless opportunity to study the origin of life. I'm sure we'll eventually get around to terraforming, but we must be circumspect. In fact, if we find life elsewhere in the solar system, it will reflect poorly on our ability to terraform other planets, because the existing bacteria would have done it already! |
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"Ool" wrote in message ... I'm wondering what all this "finding alien life" craze is about. Is it about wishing we could find someone to hitch a ride with who's al- ready done all the work because we're too lazy to build spaceships of our own? Is it that?? If it were it would be *pathetic!* SETI as a bunch of would-be hippie freeloaders. Your lack of insight borders on the astonishing. |
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"Chosp" wrote in message news:rTuRb.11279$F15.1148@fed1read06...
"Ool" wrote in message ... I'm wondering what all this "finding alien life" craze is about. Is it about wishing we could find someone to hitch a ride with who's al- ready done all the work because we're too lazy to build spaceships of our own? Is it that?? If it were it would be *pathetic!* SETI as a bunch of would-be hippie freeloaders. Your lack of insight borders on the astonishing. Nah, actually I'm just a mind-bogglingly wise, intelligent, and well- educated troll. And I'm sorry. I've been having stressful times the last few days, taking steps to hopefully get closer to space explora- tion projects myself, out there in the real world, when what I'm doing now is finished. And it occurs to me now that putting down other peo- ple's plans of exploring, even if they're based on motivations I don't share, perhaps isn't the wisest approach to rallying support and get- ting anything accomplished. After all, look at it this way: How much could SETI profit from cur- rent plans if it had access to radio telescopes on the back side of the Moon as a result? And how much more leverage would we have going there and building them if we *did* find microbes on Mars or Europa or wherever...? Sorry! -- __ “A good leader knows when it’s best to ignore the __ ('__` screams for help and focus on the bigger picture.” '__`) //6(6; ©OOL mmiv :^)^\\ `\_-/ http://home.t-online.de/home/ulrich....lmann/redbaron \-_/' |
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Never cared much about aliens and strange, new worlds containing civi-
lizations! I agree with you there. I'd like to know what the 'craze' is, meself. IMO, those who yearn most for alien contact are philosophers who want to prove that we are nothing special, but rather commonplace and pathetic. I don't get what proving that philosophical point does for anybody, to be worth that expensive effort. If there are aliens out there we'd meet them soon enough once we started spreading across the galaxy. And that's when all the culture clash problems would begin, and the squabbles and wars about resources and ethnic differences... Indeed. Daydreams about exotic trade goods and commerce in wildly new technology are just fantasy. Why would aliens *want* to trade with us, or share their hard-won technology, rather than use us for pets, or slaves, or interstellar target-practice? If the aliens come from an evolution anything like ours, we should be very afraid. In my opinion, the later that happens the better! An America without the dark chapters involving the eviction of the "Indians" into barren territories or an Australia without the Aboriginees would have been a much better deal, guilt-wise. Unfortunately, we are probably going to fill the role of the Indians or Abos in any interplanetary conflict. |
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"G EddieA95" wrote in message ...
In my opinion, the later that happens the better! An America without the dark chapters involving the eviction of the "Indians" into barren territories or an Australia without the Aboriginees would have been a much better deal, guilt-wise. Unfortunately, we are probably going to fill the role of the Indians or Abos in any interplanetary conflict. Quite possibly, if all we keep doing is splash around a little in LEO. Or we might be like China, which had its chance to explore and to ex- pand but then suddenly outlawed sea-going vessels and built walls in- stead. Which is why today we have America while all *they* have is Canada. Another interesting fact is that when the Native Americans' ancestors first arrived in their new home they hunted most of the big game to extinction within a few thousand years, including the horse. So when we finally arrived there they were a bunch of nomads who didn't have horses while we did. I think there's a lesson there for all of us. (Though I'm not quite sure that that last bit is of any use as an al- legory for anything to do with space flight...) -- __ “A good leader knows when it’s best to ignore the __ ('__` screams for help and focus on the bigger picture.” '__`) //6(6; ©OOL mmiv :^)^\\ `\_-/ http://home.t-online.de/home/ulrich....lmann/redbaron \-_/' |
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