Is it possible to see the apollo modules on the moon?

Hi
Just watched a documentary "Apollo a hoax" made by FOX, and I've been
wondering if it is at all possible to see via telescope whether we've
been there or not.
Thanks
Chris

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Hi
Just watched a documentary "Apollo a hoax" made by FOX,
and I've been wondering if it is at all possible to see via telescope
whether we've been there or not.

Hi, Chris!

No, not from Earth. The Moon is too far away and the Apollo
lunar module descent stages are way too small. I believe that
the Clementine spacecraft which orbited the Moon for several
months took a couple of images which showed the disturbed
soil in the area of two of the landers, as a slight change in the
reflectivity of those areas. If the Hubble Space Telescope were
in orbit around the Moon, and if it were designed to track such
a nearby target, it would easily be able to resolve the landers.
Some future lunar mapping mission, done from lunar orbit will
undoubtedly have high enough resolution to see the landers,
but humans may be back on the Moon before that happens.

In any case, hoax believers aren't interested in any evidence
that doesn't show that government lies about everything, has
never sent anyone into space, and is run by reptiloids and
greys from a base inside the hollow Moon using taxes that
the hoax believers don't pay. We thave thousands of photos
of the Apollo landing sites already. Showing hoax believers
a few thousand new images would be proof to them that Lee
Harvy Oswald used the Kennedy assassination as a cover-up
for Mao and Kruschev to take over the USA after the failed
attempt at Roswell, and that the women on Venus are tall,
blonde, and very, very hot.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis

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Otherwise, they'd fry to a crisp in the intense radiation.

I wish they'd fry Min to a crisp in intense radiation!

DB

This should end Your research, (and get You to shut up once, and for
all)!!

The Russians could tell You how fast corn was going thru the body of
the President at this time. With that kind of Spy vrs. Spy at the
time, I am quite sure They would have blown our cover, (After the N-1
screw-up). You have to be a on acid to think this crap You publish is
real. I am very tired of seeing these lies, every other week. It is
like You think that the water torture of Us seeing it again, and
again, will make a change it to truth. Please find another group, (and
save Our bandwdith for Real History Review, and Debate).


Carl

"Hey George? Am I gonna Get to Feed the Rabbits?"

"Yes! Now just keep looking across the river Lenny!"

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Hi
Just watched a documentary "Apollo a hoax" made by FOX, and I've been
wondering if it is at all possible to see via telescope whether we've
been there or not.
Thanks
Chris


Yes, but only if you illuminate the moon with a powerful laser. If you do
that, it is quite easy to the see reflections from man made objects on the
moon (specifically the LIDAR arrays) with a reasonably modest telescope (by
professional standards).

This happens every day at three (?) dedicated facilities world-wide; the
time the reflections take to reach the earth are used to very accurately
measure the earth-moon distance.

HTH


Peter Webb

Perhaps you should add your address, since making illegal copies and
distributing them is illegal. A self rightous asshole like yourself would
want to turn themselves in for having the "wrong stuff".

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Just watched a documentary "Apollo a hoax" made by FOX

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And speaking of movies, recall the controversial 'FOX'
network production of 'Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land
on the Moon?' which first aired on February 15th 2001
(and was shown again some days later). I'd videotaped
this at the time, and made some DVD copies and passed
it around to skeptic friends. It was pretty well done,
albeit only cursory treatment was given to the myriad
and glaring discrepancies prevalent throughout NASA's
patently impossible "men to the moon" fish story (as
would become entertaining fodder for 'Capricorn One').

Nearly *four decades* have elapsed since 1969, thirty-five
since 1972. The Apollo missions were all unmanned missions
as the evidence proves. A few hundred miles above sealevel
is as far above Earth's surface that JPL/NASA's "horseless"
carriages have EVER been. Every "manned" moon landing back
in covered-wagon times was nothing but cold-war propaganda
for the unsuspecting masses...as all evidence demonstrates.

It's a proven fact NASA's six allegedly-manned half-million
miles per round-trip(!) missions to the Moon (1969-72) were
at best unmanned flights in competition with the U.S.S.R.'s
contemporaneous Soviet Luna/Lunakhod unmanned Moon missions
(frankly, only feeble-minded jackasses believe the contrary).

"They couldn't make it so they faked it." Thus, the "manned"
portions of the missions were in fact filmed under the top-
secret, heavily-guarded domed soundstages in the high desert
of Area 51, NV, perhaps around Pine Gap, AUS and maybe other
remote and publicly-inaccessible locations around the world.

Flags fluttering in the high-desert breeze, sand
buggies & actors running along in their deflated
monkeysuits-obviously recorded on highspeed film,
conspicuous absence of blast craters, impossibly
silent running under invisible exhaust emissions,
brazenly obvious backdrops that contrast sharply
against the nearby high-desert terrain ad nauseam!

The Moon is FAR BEYOND the reach of manned spacecraft, to wit:

ALTITUDE COMPARISON CHART
SHUTTLE VS. MOON & MANMADE SATELLITES
(not to scale)

x------Moon's mean geocentric distance ~239,000 miles---x
| |
| |
| |
| |
~ ~214,000 MILES ~
~ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^ ~
| |
| |
| |
x------High-altitude orbit ~25,000+ miles altitude------x
| |
x------Geostationary orbit ~22,300 miles altitude-------x
| |
| |
~ ~10,000 MILES ~
~ ~
| |
x------Mid-altitude orbit ~12,500 miles altitude--------x
| |
| |
~ ~10,000 MILES ~
~ ~
| |
x------Low-altitude orbit below ~1200 miles altitude----x
x------JPL/NASA Space Shuttle orbit ~300 miles altitude-x
x------Intl. Space Station orbit ~220 miles altitude |
x------Earth's sea level -0- miles altitude-------------x


To give you an idea of the scale involved, if each hard line
break in the chart below equals roughly 10,000 miles, to wit:

x------Moon's mean geocentric distance ~239,000 miles---x
| 230,000 |
| 220,000 |
| 210,000 |
| 200,000 |
| 190,000 |
| 180,000 |
| 170,000 |
| 160,000 |
| 150,000 |
| 140,000 |
| 130,000 |
| 120,000 |
| 110,000 |
| 100,000 |
| 90,000 |
| 80,000 |
| 70,000 |
| 60,000 |
| 50,000 |
| 40,000 |
| 30,000 |
x------Geostationary orbit ~22,300 miles altitude-------x
x------Mid-altitude orbit ~12,500 miles altitude--------x
x------Low-altitude orbit below ~1200 miles altitude----x

Thus the low-earth shuttle orbit would fit somewhere between
the center and baseline of the bottom 'x'--hardly visible at
all at this scale. And yet, that is the highest altitude any
manned flight has ever successfully sustained for any length
of time. But the "men to the moon" fairytale devotees don't
want to face up to these and other glaring facts in evidence:

*Altitude Comparison Chart of Shuttle vs. Moon & Manmade Satellites:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...ymous.pos ter

*Apollo Moon Missions 1969-1972 Were At Best *Unmanned*:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-frog.org

*Quasi-Uncensored Apollo Moon Hoax Bookmarks:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-frog.org
__________________________________________________ ____________

Remember, because this particular evidence regarding the laser
reflectors (which are indisputably on the surface of the Moon)
has been repeatedly cited as "proof" that living human beings
have actually been to the Moon and back (i.e., only by badly-
educated cowards who were duped by NASA's propaganda machine),
but were in reality *unmanned* missions at best that occurred
nearly FOUR DECADES ago, I'll briefly address this issue one
more time for the benefit of conscientious lurkers out the

http://www.aerospaceguide.net/spacecraft/lunakhod.html
"Lunokhod 1 was the first successful Soviet remote-
controlled moon rover that was carried to the Moon
by Luna 17. It was launched November 10, 1970. The
rover had eight wheels.
"The Luna 17 spacecraft landed on the moon on November
17, 1970. Lunokhod 1 weighed just under 2,000 pounds
and was designed to operate for 90 days while guided
by a 5-person team. Lunokhod 1 explored the Mare
Imbrium for 11 months and traveled 11km and relayed
television pictures and scientific data.
Lunokhod 2 moon rover was an improved version of
Lunokhod 1. It was carried to the moon on Luna 21
and landed on January 16, 1973. Lunokhod 2 was faster
and carried an additional television camera. It
travelled 37km in only 8 weeks." [end quote]

http://www.zarya.info/Diaries/Luna/Lunokhod1.htm
"Lunokhod 1 went to the Moon aboard Luna 17. Its
eight wire-mesh wheels each has its own electric
motor to allow manoeuvring in tight spaces, and so
failure of a single motor did not prevent it from
moving.
The lidded box at the left is a French-built laser
reflector. It was used to reflect back to Earth a
laser beam, making it possible to measure the
distance between the Earth and Moon to an accuracy
of twenty to thirty centimetres" [end quote]

http://www.zarya.info/Diaries/Luna/Lunokhod2.htm
"There is an additional high-level TV camera for
panoramic photography, and all lenses have
improved sunshades.
The small silver box between the front wheels is
an alpha particle emitter which can be lowered
onto the Moon to measure soil composition. Like
its predecessor, Lunokhod 2 carries a French
retro-reflector for use with a laser beam
transmitted from Earth. It allows the Earth-Moon
distance to be measured to an accuracy around 20
centimetres.

http://www.zarya.info/Diaries/Luna/Luna16.htm
"the cone-shaped antenna keeps communication with
Earth while the drill arm sits in its rest position
on the right. The sample will be taken by rotating
the drill head by one hundred and eighty degrees,
lowering the drill arm to the surface and extracting
a core sample.
On returning to the rest position, the sample is
transferred to the return capsule and sent back to
Earth" [end quote]

Therefore the Soviet Lunokhod I/II-Luna XVII/XXI missions
both successfully landed their unmanned remote-controlled
lunar-rovers a.k.a. dune-buggies on the Moon: in the same
time frame as the alleged "apollo" missions were supposed
to have occurred. These remote-controlled Russian buggies
placed French- made laser reflectors on the Moon! Another
Soviet unmanned mission, Luna XVI, landed on the Moon and
returned a soil sample to the Earth by September 24, 1970:
from the Moon, unmanned, programmed and remote-controlled.

So laser-reflecting corner prisms were placed on the Moon
by unmanned probes and a 100g x 35 cm soil sample drilled
out from the lunar surface was sent back to Earth by this
earlier of these unmanned missions all in the early 1970s.
This completely and absolutely destroys any argument that
lunar soil samples or lunar laser reflectors "prove" that
men were on the Moon. Rather, as with all other evidences
cited allegedly supporting of the "apollo" missions, upon
precise examination the same evidence proves at least the
"manned" portions of these apollo missions were definitely
hoaxed. Men NEVER went to the Moon, because men have NEVER
achieved and survived sustained altitudes much above about
five or six hundred miles above Earth's sea level. Got it?
Remember, the Moon is almost a quarter million miles away--
that's *HALF A MILLION MILES ROUND TRIP*! Get the picture?

By contrast, the Russians proved that they did send their
unmanned probes to the Moon to wit: the presence of laser
reflectors left thereon by the aforesaid Lunokhod buggies.
It could be argued that the lunar soil samples were faked
somehow, but laser reflecting corner cubes are irrefutable
evidence that unmanned robotic probes put them there. See?

At least, the demonstrable presence of the "apollo" laser
reflectors proves the American space program successfully
sent some UNMANNED probes to the Moon -and- has continued
to launch many unmanned instruments into space ever since.
All these missions are UNMANNED. Why? The Sun, that's why.
That's why they NEVER send men into outer space. Not once.
Otherwise, they'd fry to a crisp in the intense radiation.

Clear Skies!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/

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AH! Here's your problem - you actually watch Fox News


Just watched a documentary "Apollo a hoax" made by FOX

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 14:14:20 GMT, in a place far, far away, CR
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as
to indicate that:

AH! Here's your problem - you actually watch Fox News


Just watched a documentary "Apollo a hoax" made by FOX

And here's your problem. You think that Fox Entertainment is Fox
News.

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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 14:14:20 GMT, in a place far, far away, CR
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as
to indicate that:

AH! Here's your problem - you actually watch Fox News


Just watched a documentary "Apollo a hoax" made by FOX

And here's your problem. You think that Fox Entertainment is Fox
News.

And where did they "just" watch a documentary made at least a decade ago?

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Just watched a documentary "Apollo a hoax" made by FOX

What an ignorant mother****er.