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Old February 6th 10, 08:45 PM posted to alt.astronomy
Kiyo
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On Feb 3, 12:44 pm, "Kiyo" wrote:
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On Feb 2, 9:01 pm, Saul Levy wrote:


Yes, they ARE to blame for the atomic bombs too!


President Truman made the decision to use the bombs. The buck
stops
there.


Double-A


For me, the important thing is to move on, that is, to learn
from
our
mistakes and to bring ourselves into the present, because we
have
many
present duties that are neglected if we dwell too long upon who
was
right
and who wasn't.


If people neglect to take their fair share of responsibility for
past
wrongs, then those wrongs will be repeated over and over again.
An
owning up and a raising of consciousness is required to move on
to
a
better world.


Speaking of duties, I must return to mine.
I send best wishes out to all who are responding in this posted
thread.
It looks like Ollie and I will spend another Valentine apart.
But I look forward to making up for it when he returns.


All of you take care, now.


--
***** Kiyo
System Commander


So you and Ollie are a number? At least you two have buried the
hatchet.


Double-A


Ollie and I have a good deal in common.
The only "hatchet" was that, at first, we both felt that we didn't
want
to
continue this non-aging.
Then I changed my mind, but Ollie didn't.
He was just about to go through the ritual when Dr. Yubiwan
returned
and
talked to him.
I am thankful, because whatever it was that Dr. Yubiwan said to
him,
he
decided not to begin aging again.
Ollie hasn't spoken of it yet, nor am I pushing it.
Of course, I would very much like to know what he and Dr. Yubiwan
spoke
about.


Perhaps Dr. Yubiwan in his most persuasive psych language told him
to
get with the program or get thrown out an airlock!


I have not entertained that possibility.
My guess is that Dr. Yubiwan appealed to Ollie's sense of duty, which
has
grown much since he was rescued by the seans.
And the oddness we feel for many years when we stop aging (there is no
other
word I can think for it but "oddness") was probably explained in
detail
by
the doctor, so that the feeling would eventually subside.


The profound aspect is that offered a much lengthened life and lack of
aging, many would feel morally obligated to accept it. Under present
circumstances, I sometimes ponder "what if" I had refused to go to the
hospital last spring when it became obvious I was dying. A few
religious people think that if God doesn't heal you directly, you have
no obligation to seek help from doctors. However, most think that it
is wrong to avoid available medical care, that that would be something
akin to suicide. So if you feel you only have a few days left to
live, but going to a doctor could give you many more years, then most
people would say your obligation is to go to the doctor. So by
extension, if you feel that you have maybe 40 or 50 years to live, but
going to a doctor could extend your life to thousands of years, then
are you obligated to do that? That is a question that will arise when
such technology is available.


The "profound aspect" for me was outliving my family, especially my
father.
He was a special man!

--
***** Kiyo
System Commander



Everyone expects to outlive their parents. It's outliving your
children that is sad.

Double-A


I have not yet had the experience of childbirth.
Nor did I expect to outlive my parents.
My father had been a great warrior in his time.
Even my mother was quite the fighter, and that is how they had met.
I grew up in the midst of the fighting against China, and when I was old
enough, I trained to fly fighter aircraft.
My father and mother returned to Tokyo during the time I flew against the
Flying Tigers.
By the time I transferred to the carrier, I had downed 27 enemy aircraft and
was considered the empire's 11th ranking ace pilot.
This all had begun with my extraordinary father's sense of duty, which he
had embedded in me.
I attended his funeral in 1948, and my mother died the following year.
They, and a few other family members, were the only ones who knew that their
daughter had outlived them.

I have outlived many of my greatest heroes, for example, Sakai Saburo, who
died in the year 2000 at an age of 84, and Iwamoto Tetsuzo, who died in 1955
at age 38.

As Dr. Yubiwan assured me, the longer I live, the less "profound" this
aspect, and the ensuing feelings of guilt, become.

--
***** Kiyo
System Commander


 




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