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Old December 19th 18, 10:34 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default earth tilt to 45 deg?

What would happen if the Earth's tilt would shift to 45 deg suddenly or in a short period of time?
Would we survive?
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Old December 19th 18, 10:46 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 13:34:46 -0800 (PST), StarDust
wrote:

What would happen if the Earth's tilt would shift to 45 deg suddenly or in a short period of time?
Would we survive?


Humans are as adaptable as rats and cockroaches. But I imagine a few
billion would die, and all our civilization and social structures
would collapse.

(It is likely that our Moon is what has kept the tilt of the Earth's
axis so stable. Mars, for instance, has seen much wider swings.)
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Old December 20th 18, 01:02 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default earth tilt to 45 deg?

On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 1:46:05 PM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 13:34:46 -0800 (PST),

What would happen if the Earth's tilt would shift to 45 deg suddenly or in a short period of time?
Would we survive?


Humans are as adaptable as rats and cockroaches. But I imagine a few
billion would die, and all our civilization and social structures
would collapse.

(It is likely that our Moon is what has kept the tilt of the Earth's
axis so stable. Mars, for instance, has seen much wider swings.)


Well, 500 years ago, earth's population was around 500 million, now 7 billion!
200 years ago , industrialization caused the exponential population growth!
Going back to 1/2 billion would be a normal thing, I think!
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Old December 20th 18, 01:13 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Chris L Peterson
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Default earth tilt to 45 deg?

On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 16:02:48 -0800 (PST), StarDust
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 1:46:05 PM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 13:34:46 -0800 (PST),

What would happen if the Earth's tilt would shift to 45 deg suddenly or in a short period of time?
Would we survive?


Humans are as adaptable as rats and cockroaches. But I imagine a few
billion would die, and all our civilization and social structures
would collapse.

(It is likely that our Moon is what has kept the tilt of the Earth's
axis so stable. Mars, for instance, has seen much wider swings.)


Well, 500 years ago, earth's population was around 500 million, now 7 billion!
200 years ago , industrialization caused the exponential population growth!
Going back to 1/2 billion would be a normal thing, I think!


I'm all for a reduction of the human population back down to a billion
or less. But ideally by attrition, not cataclysm. And the whole
collapse of civilization thing would be nice to avoid!

(This is likely to happen in any case, but by our own making, not some
mysterious adjustment of Earth's axis.)
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Old December 20th 18, 01:17 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default earth tilt to 45 deg?

On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 4:13:14 PM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 16:02:48 -0800 (PST),

On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 1:46:05 PM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 13:34:46 -0800 (PST),

What would happen if the Earth's tilt would shift to 45 deg suddenly or in a short period of time?
Would we survive?

Humans are as adaptable as rats and cockroaches. But I imagine a few
billion would die, and all our civilization and social structures
would collapse.

(It is likely that our Moon is what has kept the tilt of the Earth's
axis so stable. Mars, for instance, has seen much wider swings.)


Well, 500 years ago, earth's population was around 500 million, now 7 billion!
200 years ago , industrialization caused the exponential population growth!
Going back to 1/2 billion would be a normal thing, I think!


I'm all for a reduction of the human population back down to a billion
or less. But ideally by attrition, not cataclysm. And the whole
collapse of civilization thing would be nice to avoid!

(This is likely to happen in any case, but by our own making, not some
mysterious adjustment of Earth's axis.)


You want your cake and eat it too?
Today's high tech , consumption based economies rely on massive populations to sell more goods!

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Old December 20th 18, 03:37 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Chris L Peterson
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Default earth tilt to 45 deg?

On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 16:17:37 -0800 (PST), StarDust
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 4:13:14 PM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 16:02:48 -0800 (PST),

On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 1:46:05 PM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 13:34:46 -0800 (PST),

What would happen if the Earth's tilt would shift to 45 deg suddenly or in a short period of time?
Would we survive?

Humans are as adaptable as rats and cockroaches. But I imagine a few
billion would die, and all our civilization and social structures
would collapse.

(It is likely that our Moon is what has kept the tilt of the Earth's
axis so stable. Mars, for instance, has seen much wider swings.)

Well, 500 years ago, earth's population was around 500 million, now 7 billion!
200 years ago , industrialization caused the exponential population growth!
Going back to 1/2 billion would be a normal thing, I think!


I'm all for a reduction of the human population back down to a billion
or less. But ideally by attrition, not cataclysm. And the whole
collapse of civilization thing would be nice to avoid!

(This is likely to happen in any case, but by our own making, not some
mysterious adjustment of Earth's axis.)


You want your cake and eat it too?
Today's high tech , consumption based economies rely on massive populations to sell more goods!


True... but it's a failing model.
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Old December 20th 18, 12:41 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
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Default earth tilt to 45 deg?

Chris L Peterson wrote in
:

On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 16:02:48 -0800 (PST), StarDust
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 1:46:05 PM UTC-8, Chris L
Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 13:34:46 -0800 (PST),

What would happen if the Earth's tilt would shift to 45 deg
suddenly or in a short period of time? Would we survive?

Humans are as adaptable as rats and cockroaches. But I imagine
a few billion would die, and all our civilization and social
structures would collapse.

(It is likely that our Moon is what has kept the tilt of the
Earth's axis so stable. Mars, for instance, has seen much
wider swings.)


Well, 500 years ago, earth's population was around 500 million,
now 7 billion! 200 years ago , industrialization caused the
exponential population growth! Going back to 1/2 billion would
be a normal thing, I think!


I'm all for a reduction of the human population back down to a
billion or less.


You volunteering to go first?

We could use less people named Chris (who are, as we all know,
genetically defective in the intellect department).

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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Old December 20th 18, 03:03 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
StarDust
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Default earth tilt to 45 deg?

On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 4:41:11 PM UTC-8, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:


On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 1:46:05 PM UTC-8, Chris L
Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 13:34:46 -0800 (PST),

What would happen if the Earth's tilt would shift to 45 deg
suddenly or in a short period of time? Would we survive?

Humans are as adaptable as rats and cockroaches. But I imagine
a few billion would die, and all our civilization and social
structures would collapse.

(It is likely that our Moon is what has kept the tilt of the
Earth's axis so stable. Mars, for instance, has seen much
wider swings.)

Well, 500 years ago, earth's population was around 500 million,
now 7 billion! 200 years ago , industrialization caused the
exponential population growth! Going back to 1/2 billion would
be a normal thing, I think!


I'm all for a reduction of the human population back down to a
billion or less.


You volunteering to go first?

We could use less people named Chris (who are, as we all know,
genetically defective in the intellect department).

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.


Population reduction by birth!
Like China's one child policy or other birth control method!
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Old December 20th 18, 03:37 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Chris L Peterson
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Default earth tilt to 45 deg?

On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 16:41:07 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
wrote:

Chris L Peterson wrote in
:

On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 16:02:48 -0800 (PST), StarDust
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 1:46:05 PM UTC-8, Chris L
Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 13:34:46 -0800 (PST),

What would happen if the Earth's tilt would shift to 45 deg
suddenly or in a short period of time? Would we survive?

Humans are as adaptable as rats and cockroaches. But I imagine
a few billion would die, and all our civilization and social
structures would collapse.

(It is likely that our Moon is what has kept the tilt of the
Earth's axis so stable. Mars, for instance, has seen much
wider swings.)

Well, 500 years ago, earth's population was around 500 million,
now 7 billion! 200 years ago , industrialization caused the
exponential population growth! Going back to 1/2 billion would
be a normal thing, I think!


I'm all for a reduction of the human population back down to a
billion or less.


You volunteering to go first?


I guess you're unfamiliar with the meaning of "attrition".
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Old December 20th 18, 12:40 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
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Default earth tilt to 45 deg?

StarDust wrote in
:

On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 1:46:05 PM UTC-8, Chris L
Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 13:34:46 -0800 (PST),

What would happen if the Earth's tilt would shift to 45 deg
suddenly or in a short period of time? Would we survive?


Humans are as adaptable as rats and cockroaches. But I imagine
a few billion would die, and all our civilization and social
structures would collapse.

(It is likely that our Moon is what has kept the tilt of the
Earth's axis so stable. Mars, for instance, has seen much wider
swings.)


Well, 500 years ago, earth's population was around 500 million,
now 7 billion! 200 years ago , industrialization caused the
exponential population growth! Going back to 1/2 billion would
be a normal thing, I think!

As llong as you're among the first to die, I'm all for it.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

 




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