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Old December 15th 11, 08:15 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Matt Wiser
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On Dec 15, 7:30*am, Brian Thorn wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:05:03 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

Theres no reason a stratlauncher couldnt be upscaled, to say 4 times
its planned size for even bigger heavier payloads.....


Earth to Bob, come in Bob...

Four times its current (planned) size would be a 1,500 foot wingspan.

Think about that for a while. A wingspan longer than the USS Nimitz or
longer than the Empire State Building is tall.

You want to FLY that?

Brian


The bobbert lives in his own fantasy world. Keep that in mind. When
reality intrudes on his fantasies, it gets tossed aside-just as he
would if he took his "proposals" to Congress: he'd be laughed out of
the committee room, they'd hold the door open for him, and he'd get a
kick in the ass on the way out.
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Old December 15th 11, 11:26 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Bob Haller
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so you believe that while cutting medicare and social security for the
masses congress will increase or even not cut space spending?


When did they "cut Medicare and social security for the masses".
Reality doesn't even begin to intrude into your delusional little
world, does it?



http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/12/...6pLid%3D120433

read and attempt to understand the part where benefits are forcibly
reduced
  #23  
Old December 15th 11, 11:28 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Bob Haller
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On Dec 15, 10:49*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

Theres no reason a stratlauncher couldnt be upscaled, to say 4 times
its planned size for even bigger heavier payloads.....


Yeah, no reason at all. *Well, other than the whole "how big an
airplane have you got to carry it" thingy...


well certinally no airliner could be larger than a DC8, I mean larger
than that would be impossible
  #24  
Old December 16th 11, 01:46 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Brian Thorn[_2_]
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:28:00 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:


Yeah, no reason at all. *Well, other than the whole "how big an
airplane have you got to carry it" thingy...


well certinally no airliner could be larger than a DC8, I mean larger
than that would be impossible


Huh? Whoever said that, given the Hercules H1, Bristol Brabazon and
Consolidated B-36 were larger than that several years earlier?

Brian
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Old December 16th 11, 03:53 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Bob Haller
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On Dec 15, 7:46*pm, Brian Thorn wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:28:00 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

Yeah, no reason at all. *Well, other than the whole "how big an
airplane have you got to carry it" thingy...


well certinally no airliner could be larger than a DC8, I mean larger
than that would be impossible


Huh? Whoever said that, given the Hercules H1, Bristol Brabazon and
Consolidated B-36 were larger than that several years earlier?

Brian


my point is that a airliner can be as big as necessary.

the strato launcher might make a excellent sub orbital component, for
airline like travel around the world
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Old December 16th 11, 05:10 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Bob Haller
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On Dec 15, 10:38*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Dec 15, 10:49*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:


Theres no reason a stratlauncher couldnt be upscaled, to say 4 times
its planned size for even bigger heavier payloads.....


Yeah, no reason at all. *Well, other than the whole "how big an
airplane have you got to carry it" thingy...


well certinally no airliner could be larger than a DC8, I mean larger
than that would be impossible


Jesus, take your shoes off, you ignorant ******! *You make it 4x
bigger, which makes it 16x more massive.

Paul Allen's proposed launch system uses an aircraft with a 380' wing
span, 6 747 engines, and it needs a 12,000' runway to get air born.
Now increase everything by 16. *You won't find a runway wide enough
for it, the wing is over a mile long festooned with 48 large jet
engines, and it's going to need a lot longer (and more plentiful) gear
to keep the payload and the wing off the ground.

Yeah, building that can be done by a couple of high school students on
a weekend...

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine


gee its a given man will never walk on the moon, thats purely
impossible....

a runway and support equiptement will be custom built......
  #27  
Old December 16th 11, 05:12 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Bob Haller
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On Dec 15, 10:41*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Dec 15, 7:46*pm, Brian Thorn wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:28:00 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:


Yeah, no reason at all. *Well, other than the whole "how big an
airplane have you got to carry it" thingy...


well certinally no airliner could be larger than a DC8, I mean larger
than that would be impossible


Huh? Whoever said that, given the Hercules H1, Bristol Brabazon and
Consolidated B-36 were larger than that several years earlier?


my point is that a airliner can be as big as necessary.


Spoken like someone who couldn't poor **** out of a boot if the
instructions on how to do so were written on the bottom of the heel.

the strato launcher might make a excellent sub orbital component, for
airline like travel around the world


Why don't we just invent magic? *I mean, you'll need it for your
proposed airplane anyway, so why not just dispense with the airplane
part?

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"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine- Hide quoted text -

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there will be a market for NY to cairo in a hour flights.

bigger might make them more affordable
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Old December 16th 11, 07:00 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Alan Erskine[_3_]
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On 14/12/2011 7:37 PM, Matt Wiser wrote:

Maybe there wouldn't be the venom directed at him if he was playing catchup
to an outfit like Boeing or ULA in this regard, maybe not. Until he flies
people to LEO and brings them home, he's an "amateur hobbyist" as one
congressman said when this whole commercial crew concept got going.


Other than you, who has been directing venom at Elong Musk or SpaceX?
  #30  
Old December 16th 11, 07:20 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Matt Wiser[_2_]
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"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
...
bob haller wrote:


so you believe that while cutting medicare and social security for the
masses congress will increase or even not cut space spending?

When did they "cut Medicare and social security for the masses".
Reality doesn't even begin to intrude into your delusional little
world, does it?




http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/12/...-still-falling

-apart/?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-sb-bb%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D120433

read and attempt to understand the part where benefits are forcibly
reduced


I'll just note that it doesn't support what you've claimed. Nobody
has cut Medicare or Social Security. Perhaps you could quote the part
of the article you think supports that claim and tell us just who
"they" are?

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine


Fred, "they" exist in the bobbert's head and nowhere else. Like Clueless
Cobb over on rec.aviation.military, the bobbert lives in his fantasy world,
and when reality intrudes upon it, it's either ignored, casually dismissed,
or spun to fit the fantasy of the day.


 




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