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  #11  
Old July 3rd 13, 10:15 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
Paul B. Andersen[_7_]
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On 30.06.2013 23:39, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
It is claimed that a big bang occurred 14 billion years ago at a central point
in space and all matter was ejected outward at c from that point.



Nobody but ignorant cranks like yourself is claiming meaningless
drivel like this.

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Old July 3rd 13, 12:12 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
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On 7/2/2013 6:08 PM, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 12:02:22 -0500, Odd Bodkin wrote:

On 6/30/2013 4:39 PM, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
It is claimed that a big bang occurred 14 billion years ago at a central point
in space and all matter was ejected outward at c from that point.


Can you give me the author and title or a URL to any reading material
where you got this? This seems counter to everything I've read about the
big bang.


Try wiki

Henry Wilson DSc.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
No central point in space.
You said, "It is claimed...." By whom?

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Old July 3rd 13, 09:43 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
Henry Wilson DSc.
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On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 06:12:30 -0500, Odd Bodkin wrote:

On 7/2/2013 6:08 PM, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 12:02:22 -0500, Odd Bodkin wrote:

On 6/30/2013 4:39 PM, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
It is claimed that a big bang occurred 14 billion years ago at a central point
in space and all matter was ejected outward at c from that point.

Can you give me the author and title or a URL to any reading material
where you got this? This seems counter to everything I've read about the
big bang.


Try wiki

Henry Wilson DSc.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
No central point in space.
You said, "It is claimed...." By whom?


By whoever invented the law that says momentum is conserved.

Henry Wilson DSc.
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Old July 3rd 13, 09:49 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
Henry Wilson DSc.
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On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 11:15:59 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
wrote:

On 30.06.2013 23:39, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
It is claimed that a big bang occurred 14 billion years ago at a central point
in space and all matter was ejected outward at c from that point.



Nobody but ignorant cranks like yourself is claiming meaningless
drivel like this.


Then you might like to explain your crank creationist colleagues' version of
the BB.
You might like to comment on the fact that if a BB occurred, there must be a
point in the universe where the total vector momentum is zero.

Henry Wilson DSc.
  #15  
Old July 4th 13, 08:17 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
Martin Brown
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On 03/07/2013 00:11, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 17:03:20 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 30/06/2013 5:39 PM, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
It is claimed that a big bang occurred 14 billion years ago at a central point
in space and all matter was ejected outward at c from that point.


There is no central point for space. What is the central point of a
*surface* of a sphere? The surface of the sphere has no central point,
even if the volume of the sphere has a central point. But the volume of
the sphere exists in a higher dimension than the surface area of the
sphere, so it's a different thing.


So ****ing what?
The universe is a volume not a bloody surface
If there was a Big Bang, as some idiots still think, it must have happened at
a point in that VOLUME.


NO! You are stuck with imagining a spacetime with nothing in it except
the Big Bang precursor. But before the Big Bang the spacetime itself was
undefined it was literally a void with no space or time.

Our equations of physics become unclear at the moment of the Big Bang
but work pretty well from some infinitessimal time after to the present
day and predict the observed elemental abundances, a violent early
universe and the cosmic microwave background as classic observables.

It was the huge density of observed active radio galaxies at great
distance that put the nail in the coffin of Steady State theory. We can
now see even deeper and get redshifts on many more distant galaxies.

So similarly, there is no central point for space in the Universe, but
there is a central point for the space-time of the Universe. Similar to
how the surface area of a sphere and the volume of a sphere are at
different dimensional levels, the space vs. the space-time of the
Universe are at different dimensional levels.


What a load of crap...


You don't understand what you are talking about and make no effort to
learn - you just keep repeating your wild inaccurate claims.

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Old July 4th 13, 09:59 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
Paul B. Andersen[_7_]
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On 03.07.2013 22:49, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 11:15:59 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
wrote:

On 30.06.2013 23:39, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
It is claimed that a big bang occurred 14 billion years ago at a central point
in space and all matter was ejected outward at c from that point.



Nobody but ignorant cranks like yourself is claiming meaningless
drivel like this.


Then you might like to explain your crank creationist colleagues' version of
the BB.
You might like to comment on the fact that if a BB occurred, there must be a
point in the universe where the total vector momentum is zero.


Only ignorant cranks like yourself are claiming meaningless drivel like
this.

--
Paul

http://www.gethome.no/paulba/
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Old July 4th 13, 10:59 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
Henry Wilson DSc.
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On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 08:17:02 +0100, Martin Brown
wrote:

On 03/07/2013 00:11, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 17:03:20 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 30/06/2013 5:39 PM, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
It is claimed that a big bang occurred 14 billion years ago at a central point
in space and all matter was ejected outward at c from that point.

There is no central point for space. What is the central point of a
*surface* of a sphere? The surface of the sphere has no central point,
even if the volume of the sphere has a central point. But the volume of
the sphere exists in a higher dimension than the surface area of the
sphere, so it's a different thing.


So ****ing what?
The universe is a volume not a bloody surface
If there was a Big Bang, as some idiots still think, it must have happened at
a point in that VOLUME.


NO! You are stuck with imagining a spacetime with nothing in it except
the Big Bang precursor. But before the Big Bang the spacetime itself was
undefined it was literally a void with no space or time.


Hahahhha! So one minute there is nothing...next minute, voila!!!! We have a
whole universe....Go to the top of the class....the magician's class.....

Our equations of physics become unclear at the moment of the Big Bang
but work pretty well from some infinitessimal time after to the present
day and predict the observed elemental abundances, a violent early
universe and the cosmic microwave background as classic observables.


Bull****. Little Bangs occur regularly in the form of Supernovae...and they're
not so little....

It was the huge density of observed active radio galaxies at great
distance that put the nail in the coffin of Steady State theory. We can
now see even deeper and get redshifts on many more distant galaxies.


Redshifts have nothing to do with an expanding universe. Light simply loses
energy as it travels....it turns red....

So similarly, there is no central point for space in the Universe, but
there is a central point for the space-time of the Universe. Similar to
how the surface area of a sphere and the volume of a sphere are at
different dimensional levels, the space vs. the space-time of the
Universe are at different dimensional levels.


What a load of crap...


You don't understand what you are talking about and make no effort to
learn - you just keep repeating your wild inaccurate claims.


You must be new here. Why don't you read some of the messages and find out
what most of us think about Einstein's silly theory.

Henry Wilson DSc.
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Old July 4th 13, 11:04 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
Henry Wilson DSc.
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On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 10:59:53 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
wrote:

On 03.07.2013 22:49, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 11:15:59 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
wrote:


Nobody but ignorant cranks like yourself is claiming meaningless
drivel like this.


Then you might like to explain your crank creationist colleagues' version of
the BB.
You might like to comment on the fact that if a BB occurred, there must be a
point in the universe where the total vector momentum is zero.


Only ignorant cranks like yourself are claiming meaningless drivel like
this.


Yes you said that once...no need to repeat it....
Paul, what is your version of what happened in your supposed big bang?

Henry Wilson DSc.
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Old July 4th 13, 11:08 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
Henry Wilson DSc.
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On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 10:59:53 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
wrote:

On 03.07.2013 22:49, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:


wrote:


Nobody but ignorant cranks like yourself is claiming meaningless
drivel like this.


Then you might like to explain your crank creationist colleagues' version of
the BB.
You might like to comment on the fact that if a BB occurred, there must be a
point in the universe where the total vector momentum is zero.


Only ignorant cranks like yourself are claiming meaningless drivel like
this.


Yes you said that once...no need to repeat it....
Paul, what is your version of what happened in your supposed big bang?

Henry Wilson DSc.
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Old July 4th 13, 11:09 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
Henry Wilson DSc.
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On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 10:59:53 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
wrote:

On 03.07.2013 22:49, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:


wrote:


Nobody but ignorant cranks like yourself is claiming meaningless
drivel like this.


Then you might like to explain your crank creationist colleagues' version of
the BB.
You might like to comment on the fact that if a BB occurred, there must be a
point in the universe where the total vector momentum is zero.


Only ignorant cranks like yourself are claiming meaningless drivel like
this.


Yes you said that once...no need to repeat it....
Paul, what is your version of what happened in your supposed big bang?

Henry Wilson DSc.
 




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