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Iran launches "space rocket...or missile".
Pat Flannery wrote:
Considering that it apparently went straight up into space, are the hinting they are working on a direct ascent ABM like China has? You know, the old sand bomb concept? Nope. ICBM, SRBM, IRBM, whatever. Nuke. Jerusalem or Tel Aviv or wherever. Their intentions have never been in doubt. John Savard |
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Iran launches "space rocket...or missile".
Pat Flannery wrote:
: : :Allen Thomson wrote: : And a homing kinetic-kill EKV is, for the next several years IMO, : beyond them (2), though they might buy one from China or somebody : else. : : (1) I think. I'm going to be really embarrassed if that's not the : case. : : (2) See (1) : : :They are capable of a lot more sophisticated technology than Iraq. :They have made indigenous weapons, (and knock-offs of a lot of others) :there are photos of them here, including their prototype stealth :fighter: :http://www.network54.com/Forum/39146...ection+is+done :If we get in a fight with them, we are going to be going up against :their copies of TOWs, Hawk, Rapier and Standard SAMs :Giant Russian SA-5s, Exocet knock-offs, Shkval torpedoes capable of :going over 200 knots, Cobra helicopters, turbojet powered antiship :missiles and all sorts of other goodies. :They won't be a pushover like Iraq. Yeah, right. Just remember, Iraq fought them to a standstill with a much smaller force. They would be as meats in the hands of our warriors... -- "Most people don't realize it, but ninety percent of morality is based on comfort. Incinerate hundreds of people from thirty thousand feet up and you'll sleep like a baby afterward. Kill one person with a bayonet and your dreams will never be sweet again." -- John Rain, "Rain Storm" |
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Iran launches "space rocket...or missile".
Rand Simberg wrote: No, it's probably just a propaganda ploy to say that they launched into space (you know, just as a lot of people here accuse Rutan of doing). Considering its range (800 miles) any of the Shahab-3s should have gone into space as part of their normal trajectory. Pat |
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Iran launches "space rocket...or missile".
Quadibloc wrote: But for the big jobs, you just have to push a few buttons. And, if our estimates of Iran's nuclear reprocessing are just a little bit off, it won't even have to be a nuclear *first* strike. If they *do* launch a nuclear-armed missile at Israel, say, *next week*, I hope it doesn't quite hit its intended target, but, say, some spot in the Sinai peninsula where there aren't even any Egyptians to kill, just a lot of sand to make radioactive. It could happen at any moment, since the leadership of Iran has made it very clear that it is willing to attack Israel. You can knock out Iran's nuclear facilities without having to resort to atomic attack. Particularly since they were nice enough to take reporters on a tour of them a couple of weeks back, so everyone knows exactly where the centrifuges are. And all those zillion centrifuges they are installing to enrich uranium take a lot of electricity to operate. You knock out the power station that supplies them with electricity, and they cease to function. Then there are the hidden nuclear facilities in the hollowed-out mountains. What happens if you blow up the entrances of the tunnels that lead into them, and the ventilation systems that supply them with air? In the words of Jean-Paul Sart "Au revoir, go-pher". Pat |
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Iran launches "space rocket...or missile".
Quadibloc wrote: Nope. ICBM, SRBM, IRBM, whatever. Nuke. Jerusalem or Tel Aviv or wherever. Their intentions have never been in doubt. Oh, I think their true intentions are very much in doubt...they are doing everything possible to make sure the world knows they are the new bad boy on the block... and if enough nice things are offered to them to stop their nuclear program....well then...maybe a deal _could_ be arranged, just like it was with North Korea. This whole "Iranian Nuclear Crisis" hits full swing around the time Russia starts balking about finishing up those reactors they were building for Iran and supplying fuel for them with no strings attached, after the fall of the Russian energy "oligarchs": http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/wo...an/bushehr.htm http://www.washingtontimes.com/world...2005-9896r.htm Since Iran has a power shortage due to its powerplants switching from oil to gas: http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/wo...hehr-intro.htm Getting some Western powers to build them some nice safe light water reactors free of charge would be a really sweet deal for them. Missile technology may not be the only thing they are cooperating with North Korea on; a little nuclear blackmail scam of the West also is a real possibility. Since we've already caved in response to North Korea in regards to energy for disarmament: http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/arti...012191,00.html .....there's a very good chance this will work for Iran also. The whole thing has a touch of "The Mouse On the Moon" about it. :-D Pat |
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Iran launches "space rocket...or missile".
Fred J. McCall wrote: Yeah, right. Just remember, Iraq fought them to a standstill with a much smaller force. Iran was in chaos after the revolution; they've had a lot of time to regroup and re-equip since then. They would be as meats in the hands of our warriors... That's right; a lot of our troops must be getting pretty sexually frustrated by now, and it might be time to screw with Iran instead of themselves. ;-) Pat |
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Iran launches "space rocket...or missile".
Pat Flannery wrote:
: : :Fred J. McCall wrote: : Yeah, right. Just remember, Iraq fought them to a standstill with a : much smaller force. : :Iran was in chaos after the revolution; they've had a lot of time to :regroup and re-equip since then. But we don't see any huge tactical innovations in their methods of warfare. : They would be as meats in the hands of our warriors... : :That's right; a lot of our troops must be getting pretty sexually :frustrated by now, and it might be time to screw with Iran instead of :themselves. ;-) It's why we have a coed military... -- "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar territory." --G. Behn |
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Iran launches "space rocket...or missile".
In article .com,
Quadibloc wrote: It could happen at any moment, since the leadership of Iran has made it very clear that it is willing to attack Israel. No, they've made it very clear that they want us to think that. It's not at all the same thing. -- spsystems.net is temporarily off the air; | Henry Spencer mail to henry at zoo.utoronto.ca instead. | |
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Iran launches "space rocket...or missile".
Fred J. McCall wrote: But we don't see any huge tactical innovations in their methods of warfare. Except that now they are going to rely on sophisticated equipment rather than human wave attacks? Any country that's getting input from Russia on stealth fighter design might bear watching: http://www.irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=640 It just struck me why that thing looks like it has a flying saucer stuck in its midsection. http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...q-image3-s.jpg http://www.aeronautics.ru/img/img006/mig_i-2000_001.jpg That's the Russian plasma stealth generator to wrap the plane in ionized air that absorbs radar waves. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_stealth http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/10/19/stealth.shtml Pat |
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Iran launches "space rocket...or missile".
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:47:55 GMT, in a place far, far away,
(Henry Spencer) made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: In article .com, Quadibloc wrote: It could happen at any moment, since the leadership of Iran has made it very clear that it is willing to attack Israel. No, they've made it very clear that they want us to think that. It's not at all the same thing. And Saddam made it very clear that he wanted the world to think that he had WMD. Whether true or not, it's a potentially suicidal thing to do. |
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