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Rand Simberg ) wrote:
: On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:57:25 -0500, in a place far, far away, "Ami : Silberman" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in : such a way as to indicate that: : Oh, how do we figure the indirect benefits of government (such as the : promotion of stability, market regulation etc.) which disproportionately : benefit the rich. One of the side effects of the modern wellfare state is : that we haven't had a peasant uprising in centuries. : No, instead we've had taxpayer uprisings. Is that what the Revolution was against England back in 1776-83? Eric |
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OM wrote: ...The last Woolworth's around here closed up damn near 20 years ago, but it was good for finding stuff at dime store prices when dime stores themselves were dying out quicker than the department stores. We used to have something similar to the dollar tore in our town back in the late 60's. It was the "88¢" store*, and everything in the store cost 88 cents; which made it the perfect place to spend half my allowance on models- generally Lindberg model planes in 1/48th scale. No models sighted at the new store yet- although they do have a Chinese toy aircraft carrier in a bag marked "Battleship". :-) * This morphed into Gibson's, then Pamida, then moved, then died when K-Mart arrived. Pat |
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On 2005-03-17, Eric Chomko wrote:
Andrew Gray ) wrote: : Other organisations, if memory serves, are GCHQ - the signals-intercept : people - and the Defence Intelligence Staff, which is pretty much what : it sounds like it is. There's also the various police forces' Special : Branches (most famously that of the Metropolitan Police), which have a : quasi-intelligence role in some contexts. : There, that ought to thoroughly confuse you... Actually, no. Thanks for the overview, it cleared up my confusion. The bigger then number the further away (external = 6). Yeah, but there's no actual logic to that - originally there was a breakdown simply by geographic area, where MI2 was "northern Europe" (or something), that sort of thing. (This had echoes in the US, again - for a long time the FBI, if memory serves, held jurisdiction over anything to do with Latin America.) MI6 got the name because one of the SIS's branches was given the title during the war, and it later became attatched to the organisation generally. There was a lot of internecine squabbling after the War; when the dust settled, we had the two agencies and some miscellaneous bits and pieces. I guess a rough US equivalent is: MI5 = FBI MI6 = CIA. At least their domains, though the FBI is both domestic and abroad where the CIA (so we are told anyway) is strictly foriegn. Broadly. MI5 probably has overseas operations, but its remit is domestic - to protect the institutions, rather than to carry out their activities, if you see the difference. As I understand it, though, the FBI was originally a federal criminal investigation body - closer to the UK's CID than anything else - which later acquired intelligence duties; the role of MI5 might be better compared to a more wide-ranging Secret Service without the VIP protection role. -- -Andrew Gray |
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:57:25 -0500, in a place far, far away, "Ami
Silberman" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: Oh, how do we figure the indirect benefits of government (such as the promotion of stability, market regulation etc.) which disproportionately benefit the rich. One of the side effects of the modern wellfare state is that we haven't had a peasant uprising in centuries. No, instead we've had taxpayer uprisings. |
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OM wrote: ...And the dyed easter chicks. Can't forget those. Especially when the dog ate it and it didn't resurrect on the third day after. (Cut to scene of stone rolling away from a dog turd) God, I'd completely forgotten those- they did have those too, didn't they? Can you imagine the prices you could get on E-bay for those old models nowadays? My brother got a Strombecker Ferry Rocket with the transparent exterior and colored paper inserts to show the interior layout down there. Pat |
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:14:35 -0500, in a place far, far away, "Ami
Silberman" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: 1. The "masses" are overall more contented and less prone to rebel. 2. Since the bread and circuses are supplied by the government, as opposed to individuals, it is harder to manipulate the masses by means of the bread and circuses. It's a pretty cynical view, but I think that, overall a rational one. Could be. The point remains that given we have a welfare state, the distortion of the job market caused by minimum wage laws remains a catastrophe for underskilled youth, and those who would simply like to do some work, though they don't need the money that badly. |
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Eric Chomko wrote: You'd probably miss with a shotgun as well. And I wouldn't advise shooting a shotgun into a barrel. But that's just me. Like I said, there's going to be a lot of water flying around. I'd strongly advise against immersing the shotgun's barrels in the water to get a better shot at the fish though, because at the least you might rupture the barrel from the shockwave*, at the most the barrels might explode from the back pressure. No, the most efficient way of killing fish in a barrel is by dropping a handful of Alka-Seltzer in there with them. This works on minnows kept in a styrofoam ice chest for Caiman food, it will work in a barrel also. * Like the little submerged bomb in the concrete sink incident I had several years ago. Pat |
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