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The Universe Was Created For The Glory Of God
Jon Schild wrote:
Any being that needs to create a whole universe just to have lesser beings that can worship and glorify him is a pathetic loser that deserves pity, not glory. That may well be true. But disproof of a particular oversimplified picture of God is not necessarily disproof of the existence of God. Why is there a Universe at all? Why is there something instead of nothing? After all, in our experience, most somethings cost time and effort - and materials. They don't come for free. Why should a whole big Universe have just happened? Maybe some kind of thinking mind is a more natural thing to exist first than a material Universe. That does contradict experience, because brains need to be designed by eons of evolution, and computers by conscious effort. But the reality we see may not be ultimate reality. To want beauty instead of barrenness, harmony instead of emptiness, and companionship with other minds instead of loneliness, is not the result of an insane egotism. There are other reasons for subjecting the idea of the existence of God to severe criticism - the "Problem of Evil", for one - but the fact that some sacred writings, at pains to establish the superiority and majesty of God, end up making Him look like an insufferable egotist, to me seems like a rather minor reason. John Savard |
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The Universe Was Created For The Glory Of God
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oups.com... Jon Schild wrote: Any being that needs to create a whole universe just to have lesser beings that can worship and glorify him is a pathetic loser that deserves pity, not glory. That may well be true. But disproof of a particular oversimplified picture of God is not necessarily disproof of the existence of God. An unknown God cannot be obeyed. Atheists and believers in a totally unknown God should end up living their lives the same way. Can God be younger than the universe? If he is younger, that would imply that he didn't create it. Most people use God and Creator as synonyms, but are they really synonyms? If I remember Greek mythology correctly, the titans were older than Zeus who was the king of the gods. Can gods have children and be replaced by their children? |
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The Universe Was Created For The Glory Of God
Fred J. McCall wrote: wrote: : :Fred J. McCall wrote: : wrote: : : :I'll get back to the rest later. : : : : :LOL! This ****ing contest started when I made a joke: : : : :"As some are fond of saying, it's the dose that defines the poison." : : : :and you fredded out on me replying: : : : :"And who would those 'some' be? " : : : :I don't suppose you were asking for a couple of names. : :OTOH, I don't see the purpose to posing the question : :in the rehtorical sense : : : :So, what WAS your point? : : You shouldn't suppose. Your claim was that "some" say this. Who? : : : Paracelsus : William Tucker : M. Alice Ottoboni : Bruce Evans : W. Wyatt Hoback : Charles A. McKay Jr : Michael G. Holland And who declared them as the experts and why should the sane folks care? I see you have lost track of this thread. Why would anyone 'declare' anyone to be expert? Maybe sleeping with more than one woman IS safe. Why don't you try it and see what happens? -- FF |
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The Universe Was Created For The Glory Of God
(William December Starr) wrote in news:ecc3l8$cko$1
@panix2.panix.com: In article .com, said: The universe was crated for the glory of God? What an egotistical *******. What does God need with glory anyway? Isn't he the supreme being? Isn't that enough? Why does he need countless souls to tell him how great he is? I can tell you why. Because God is quite mad, insane, nuts, mentally disturbed, etc. |
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