Chinese Space Program and Muslim World

And the requirement to pray five times
a day would be quite tricky on a planet with a different rotational
period than earth.

Some Muslims would view that as an advantage. The Lunar day is 4 weeks, so
a Muslim would waste less time on prayer. An asteroid that spins really
fast could be a problem.

On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 19:11:23 GMT, "James Oberg"
wrote, in part:

Chinese Space Program and Muslim World
http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.php?id=40789
A 'Divine Journey', Chinese manned space flight program - opportunities of
Collaboration for the muslim world - Justuju (The Quest)
Wednesday October 08, 2003 (1421 PST)

Hashim Syed Mohammad Bin Qasim, Riyadh

The so called Free world, the western powers, have no doubts about the
military objectives of the Chinese Space Program. Muslim and Arab world has
to realize fast, that, with some efforts, their wealth and friendly ties
might help them in joining the Chinese space wagon: Can OIC grab this
historic moment ….

A successful Chinese Manned Space Flight would rub salt into the currently
wounded US Space Program …

How horrible, sick and confused. The Chinese dictatorship, that gave
us the massacre at Tien-an-Men Square, is evil. It is with the United
States that the Muslim world should be aligning itself.

Particularly at this historic moment, after September 11, 2001, when
the Muslim world needs to demonstrate convincingly that al-Qaeda and
Osama bin Laden are not representative of it - by giving up its
wasteful hostility to Israel, by ending discrimination against
non-Muslims, and, most importantly, by lending the United States its
full support in the war on terror.

But then, that there are some voices in the Muslim world that advocate
going in the other direction is no surprise. Hopefully, as time goes
on, these voices will become less common, less typical, and less
representative, and more marginalized.

John Savard

John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 23:58:37 -0500, "wassup"
wrote, in part:

The Chinese are into pork and alcohol,

Don't forget gambling (also prohibited in the Muslim faith): because
of a lack of lending institutions, Mah Jongg formed the major Chinese
method of capital formation during a long historical period. It is
true about pork - the Chinese word for "meat" also means "pork", just
as, as one book on the subject notes, "eggs" mean chicken eggs rather
than duck eggs and goose eggs in English. I'm not sure the Chinese use
alcohol any more than any other group of people whose culture does not
prohibit it, such as Europeans, though.

On the other hand, the *Japanese*, I admit, do tolerate what we would
regard as alcohol abuse. Perhaps you were thinking of them.

so I don't see a great affinity on the
religious front. Ask the Malays.

Well, like Chechnya, where post-Soviet Russia indiscriminately
attacked civilians, occupied Uighuristan provides opportunities for
al-Qaeda to expand and gain recruits.

John Savard

John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html

"James Oberg" wrote in message .. .
Chinese Space Program and Muslim World
http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.php?id=40789
A 'Divine Journey', Chinese manned space flight program - opportunities of
Collaboration for the muslim world - Justuju (The Quest)
Wednesday October 08, 2003 (1421 PST)


Hashim Syed Mohammad Bin Qasim, Riyadh

The so called Free world, the western powers, have no doubts about the
military objectives of the Chinese Space Program. Muslim and Arab world has
to realize fast, that, with some efforts, their wealth and friendly ties
might help them in joining the Chinese space wagon: Can OIC grab this
historic moment ?.


A successful Chinese Manned Space Flight would rub salt into the currently
wounded US Space Program ?

If China is the first country to put a man on the moon it will shift
the power balance of the world away from the British controlled USA
and into the Oceanic region. The only reason for such blind support
from Howard would have to be in preparation for the trend towards this
power shift. To control the middle eastern region and it's oil supply
is to covertly direct world power, which when applied to China then
offers control irrespective of cultural differences. The alliance is
about world power not which side nor race. America has achieved
nothing of any significance for decades. The country has been used as
the only one on the planet to change the globe from a conservative
traditionally based world, to one of post industry. This thrust and
change of direction came from Eygypt, through Rome, to and then from
the United Kingdom then bursting through the USA to alter the
astrological age. We now enter the end days.

"eyes only" wrote ...
"James Oberg" wrote in message .. .
A successful Chinese Manned Space Flight would rub salt into the currently
wounded US Space Program ?

If China is the first country to put a man on the moon it will shift
the power balance of the world away from the British controlled USA

o_O?

BWA-hahah-HAHAHAHA!!!! *cough* *cough* *choke*

Damn it. I should stop reading alt.conspiracy cross-posts - it's not good for my
health.

"Paul Blay" wrote in message
...
"eyes only" wrote ...
"James Oberg" wrote in message
.. .
A successful Chinese Manned Space Flight would rub salt into the
currently
wounded US Space Program ?

If China is the first country to put a man on the moon it will shift
the power balance of the world away from the British controlled USA

o_O?

BWA-hahah-HAHAHAHA!!!! *cough* *cough* *choke*

Damn it. I should stop reading alt.conspiracy cross-posts - it's not good
for my
health.

blushes sorry about that, I'll get the oxygen tank.
-eo-

In article ,
Mike Rhino wrote:
Some Muslims would view that as an advantage. The Lunar day is 4 weeks, so
a Muslim would waste less time on prayer. An asteroid that spins really
fast could be a problem.

In either case, you'd see pragmatic adaptation rather than rigid
observance of inappropriate rules. The latter is much more a
characteristic of Christianity :-) than of Islam (or Judaism).
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Hashim Syed Mohammad Bin Qasim, Riyadh

The so called Free world, the western powers, have no doubts about the
military objectives of the Chinese Space Program. Muslim and Arab world has
to realize fast, that, with some efforts, their wealth and friendly ties
might help them in joining the Chinese space wagon: Can OIC grab this
historic moment ….

The Chinese would be fools to team up with the Muslims. The Muslims have a
historic tendency to bite the hand that feeds them. Just as they betrayed the
west, they'll betray the Chinese. They're just waiting for that perfect
opportunity to backstab. The Chinese are not Muslim, so through the filter of
that religion, they are viewed as the enemy infidel. A useful temporary ally
perhaps in their plotting against "the Great Satan" aka the USA. Just as the
Muslims allied with the US against the Communist menace, but gratitude is not
in their vocabulary. We've made some Muslim nations fantastically rich, and for
that they hate us. Their religion requires a perpetual warfare with nonmuslims.
There is no reasoning with them. Negotiations are just stalling tactics so they
can prepare for another attack. These fanatics are not deterable. China is
playing with a monster for short term resources and they are fools to do this.

Tom

Hmm...Well, Venus' day is 243 earth days. So Muslims landing on Venus
would only have to pray every 48.6 earth days? And how do you bow down
to something that is above you? This is getting silly, I think it
illustrates the stupidity of religion.

You must learn to differentiate. How about saying that all humans are evil,
because some do wacky things like blow themselves up to kill others. Islam
above all is a cult. Their lives are regemented and they behave like mechanical
automotons praying together in unison 5 times a day. They are easily programmed
for self destruction and their own lives are viewed with little importance as
they serve the cause of their religious leaders. I see this as a potential
threat to humanity, if they get the wrong ideas in their heads.

Tom

John Savard wrote:

How horrible, sick and confused. The Chinese dictatorship, that gave
us the massacre at Tien-an-Men Square, is evil. It is with the United
States that the Muslim world should be aligning itself.

This assumes that the "Muslim world" isn't evil in the same way the
Chinese government is.


Particularly at this historic moment, after September 11, 2001, when
the Muslim world needs to demonstrate convincingly that al-Qaeda and
Osama bin Laden are not representative of it

This assumes that al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden are not representative of
it. Are you sure that's accurate?

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