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Old June 6th 16, 09:08 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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What happens if you ask an astrophysicist whether the Earth is flat? If that astrophysicist is Neil deGrasse Tyson, he first gives you a brutal side-eye that terrifies you to your core, before explaining the real reason why there are still people who believe the Earth is flat and we are at the center of the universe.
Read why:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...hp_ref=science
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Old June 6th 16, 09:18 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 9:09:00 PM UTC+1, SlurpieMcDoublegulp wrote:
What happens if you ask an astrophysicist whether the Earth is flat? If that astrophysicist is Neil deGrasse Tyson, he first gives you a brutal side-eye that terrifies you to your core, before explaining the real reason why there are still people who believe the Earth is flat and we are at the center of the universe.
Read why:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...hp_ref=science


The circumference of the Equator is 24901 miles therefore 15 degrees of separation is 1037.5 miles. There is one hour time difference between each of those 15 degrees or 4 minutes for each degree.

What is the rotational speed of the Equator in miles per hour ?.

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Old June 7th 16, 04:14 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 1:19:01 PM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:

The circumference of the Equator is 24901 miles therefore 15 degrees of separation is 1037.5 miles. There is one hour time difference between each of those 15 degrees or 4 minutes for each degree.

What is the rotational speed of the Equator in miles per hour ?.


With respect to what?
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Old June 7th 16, 08:24 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 4:14:35 AM UTC+1, palsing wrote:
On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 1:19:01 PM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:

The circumference of the Equator is 24901 miles therefore 15 degrees of separation is 1037.5 miles. There is one hour time difference between each of those 15 degrees or 4 minutes for each degree.

What is the rotational speed of the Equator in miles per hour ?.


With respect to what?


This is pretty much total anarchy because there is no question other than the answer which falls out of the supplied information drawn from both the 24 hour AM/PM system and the Lat/Long system. That information expands out to the reference system which originates in the astronomical event which causes Sirius to skip an appearance by one day and sets the proportion of rotations to orbital circuits and then using these constant progression of days to serve as a basis for constant rotation at a rate of 15 degrees per hour and once in 24 hours.

Due to events in this forum over the last number of days I now know you are beyond the ability to consider right from wrong, after all, what could be more intimate to any person than to participate in the rotation of the planet daily , watch the Sun rise and set and the stars come into view with each rotation.

What drives you to abandon the 24 hour system and Lat/Long system which contains the fundamental information that the Earth is not flat but round and rotating ?.

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Old June 7th 16, 09:30 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 8:24:29 AM UTC+1, oriel36 wrote:
watch the Sun rise and set and the stars come into view with each rotation.


I do, and I notice that the stars come into view every 23 hours 56 minutes 4 seconds, and the Sun takes an extra few minutes.
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Old June 7th 16, 10:09 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 9:30:29 AM UTC+1, wrote:
On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 8:24:29 AM UTC+1, oriel36 wrote:
watch the Sun rise and set and the stars come into view with each rotation.


I do, and I notice that the stars come into view every 23 hours 56 minutes 4 seconds, and the Sun takes an extra few minutes.


The Sun and stars come into view in two separate ways and right now at the South pole it is approaching polar midnight as that location continues to turn away from the Sun and the stars remain in view constantly for another number of months -

http://www.usap.gov/videoclipsandmaps/spwebcam.cfm


The combination of two surface rotations to the Sun, one constant and the other uneven, creates the observed inequality in the noon cycle which is never 24 hours. The solar vs sidereal fiction tries to insert a belief that rotation to the Sun in 24 hours is set off against rotation to the stars in 23 hours 56 minutes but again this is chaos at the expense of the planet's dual surface rotations and their appreciation through observations and experiences.

I do not know why people are unable to feel shame at their inability to take pride in the 24 hour AM/PM system and Lat/Long system which contains the facts of a round and rotating Earth. The actual terms AM and PM fix the progression of days to rotations so there is never a drift between day/night cycles and rotations as anarchists assert -

" It is a fact not generally known that,owing to the difference between solar and sidereal time,the Earth rotates upon its axis once more often than there are days in the year" NASA /Harvard

Contributors here like to say astronomy is all about mathematics but what the really mean, unbeknownst to themselves, is that they have inherited a clockwork driven nightmare which wrecks havoc with all before it and especially with the facts surrounding a round and rotating planet that they rely for their existence.

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Old June 7th 16, 10:30 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 11:09:42 UTC+2, oriel36 wrote:

Contributors here like to say astronomy is all about mathematics but what the really mean, unbeknownst to themselves, is that they have inherited a clockwork driven nightmare which wrecks havoc with all before it and especially with the facts surrounding a round and rotating planet that they rely for their existence.


"Trolling along on the crest of wave and the sun is in the sky!
Give him two sticks and a watch and you'll see "the famous professor" cry!
That sidereal time is only a hoax presented by Fox News Today.

Chorus. He's a troller, he's a troller, he's a troller, Kellertime!

If the truth were known, the world would stop, and all the people would fly away!
Give him two sticks and watch the skies, it takes only 1461 turns to slay.
The myth that time is based on the stars 'cus his sundial knows what to say..
That the equation of time was an error in typing by the daft old monks of the day.
Give him two sticks and he'll show the world how badly wrong they have seen..
All it takes is a man with one white stick [and dark glasses] to show him up as a ridiculous, old, has-be_e_e_en!!!

Chorus: "He's a troller, he's a troller, he's a troller, Kellertime."

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Old June 7th 16, 10:50 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 10:09:42 AM UTC+1, oriel36 wrote:

The Sun and stars come into view in two separate ways and right now at the South pole it is approaching polar midnight as that location continues to turn away from the Sun and the stars remain in view constantly for another number of months -

http://www.usap.gov/videoclipsandmaps/spwebcam.cfm


Indeed, without the Sun rising to confuse matters, the 23 hour 56 minute 4 second rotation of the Earth with respect to the Stars is even clearer than in our latitudes.
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Old June 7th 16, 11:06 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 10:50:03 AM UTC+1, wrote:
On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 10:09:42 AM UTC+1, oriel36 wrote:

The Sun and stars come into view in two separate ways and right now at the South pole it is approaching polar midnight as that location continues to turn away from the Sun and the stars remain in view constantly for another number of months -

http://www.usap.gov/videoclipsandmaps/spwebcam.cfm


Indeed, without the Sun rising to confuse matters, the 23 hour 56 minute 4 second rotation of the Earth with respect to the Stars is even clearer than in our latitudes.


The Sun coming into view is an incredible sight made possible by a round and rotating Earth but now observers have two distinct surface rotations to consider with the surface rotation as a function of the planet's orbital motion creating the single sunrise and sunset at the North and South poles each annual circuit.

Rolando may have been trying to make himself feel better that there are flat Earthers around however what is pushed through the education system is total and utter chaos -

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/JennyChen.shtml

If you feel a sense of pride looking at that then it is because of a false sense of freedom and nothing to do with the technical details which permit only the 24 hour system and the Lat/Long system to reflect rotational speeds and geometric/geographical traits surrounding the 24901 mile circumference.

It is impossible to deal with intellectual anarchy because the whole object is to defy structure,logic and history ,not as technical details to be worked out but as a means to an end in itself. It is the equivalent of committing intellectual suicide ,no more or no less.
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Old June 7th 16, 12:46 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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After looking at the article, I went to YouTube, and found a video where someone
claimed...

the reason one has such things as the rapper BoB is not that the school system
isn't educating children...

it's because the government has created distrust of establishment science by
lying to people so much!

You know, about the fake Apollo moon landings, the secret HAARP project to
control the weather, the 9/11 Reichstag fire, and so on and so forth.

So _naturally_ people who see through those lies will question everything, and
occasionally, working on their own like that, they might get some things wrong,
like concluding the world is flat.

I was too much at a loss for words to even attempt to comment on the video.
Where would I even begin explaining why solipsistic paranoia is not a good
default starting point for making sense of the world?

John Savard
 




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