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Old December 6th 12, 10:38 AM posted to alt.usage.english,sci.astro
Mark Brader
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Default Astronomy scoop from Sydney Morning Herald.

Stan Brown:
"Doctor, it hurts when I do this!"
"Then don't."


No sense of rhythm? It's "Don't do that, then."
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Old December 6th 12, 11:16 AM posted to alt.usage.english,sci.astro
fabzorba
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Default Astronomy scoop from Sydney Morning Herald.

On 6 Dec, 11:14, Stan Brown wrote:
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 09:41:45 +0100, James Hogg wrote:

Stan Brown wrote:
On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 22:40:32 -0600, Mark Sieving wrote:
On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 20:27:07 -0800 (PST), fabzorba
wrote:


"Cassini, a joint project between NASA, the European Space Agency and
the Italian Space Agency,


_Between_ A, B, and C?


Oxford Guide to English Usage:


"There are no grounds for objection to the use of /between/ to express
relations, actions, movements, etc. involving more than two parties;
/among/ should not be substituted in, e.g., /Cordial relations between
Britain, Greece, and Turkey/.


I think their example is flawed. *One can argue -- and if I'm not
mistaken -- Fowler _did_ argue -- that "between" is right here
because there are relations between pairs of countries but no such
thing as relations between/among the three, independent of the
bilateral relations.

But, from your quote I am sure that the OGtEU would have approved the
original sentence as well.

In the original sentence, I would have avoided the difficulty by
saying "... project of NASA, ...".

--
"The difference between the /almost right/ word and the /right/ word
is ... the difference between the lightning-bug and the lightning."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --Mark Twain

"Between" is correct in this example, and Fowler DOES recommend its
use. From memory - my Fowler is not at hand - he noted that "between"
was acceptable in the case of three or more parties having some pact
or arrangement, where each had formal agreements with every other
member, on a one to one basis. Thus, the pact or whatever can be
deconstructed to mean agreements between any two of the parties
involved.

This might not be a perfect solution, but Fowler notes that
substituting "among" or "amongst" is worse, as that word denotes a
general area somewhere in between the parties. So we would normally
hear it in such contexts as "The ball was thrown amongst the players".
It should not be used where explicit relationships are in force
binding the parties individually and severally.

Donna, where IZ YOU?!
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Old December 6th 12, 07:23 PM posted to alt.usage.english,sci.astro
R H Draney
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Default Astronomy scoop from Sydney Morning Herald.

Mark Brader filted:

Stan Brown:
"Doctor, it hurts when I do this!"
"Then don't."


No sense of rhythm? It's "Don't do that, then."


Oh, *that* Henny Youngman....r


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