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Old May 17th 04, 07:12 PM
William C. Keel
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As my small contribution to information that should enter
Apollo-hoax debates, I've started collected images and other
information about telescopic tracking of Apollo missions during the
coasts between Earth and Moon. This started in gathering examples for
my semiannual astronomer class on astronomical urban legends, and
grew under the gentle goading of Phil Plait and JimO. This now
includes images from professional observatories as well as amateurs.
The latter are especially important as being not in the US Government's
pay - there are some nice pictures by UK amateurs, some of whom
were unaware of the mission's location until a fuel dump got their
attention. I have a few more images, especially from the Smithsonian
tracking stations, pending getting formal permissions for posting.

The initial version may now be seen at
http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/space/apollo.html
A major goal is to give googlers somewhere to find this information,
some of which is thinly scattered on the web and much of which
not only exists only in print but is indexed only in print.

Additional pointers, information, and notices of things I've screwed
up will be appopriate. So will gripes about my HTML skills, although
I reserve the right to ignore anything that doesn't show up on the
SGI machine I usually work from...

Bill Keel
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Old May 17th 04, 07:35 PM
Jonathan Silverlight
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In message , William C. Keel
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The initial version may now be seen at
http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/space/apollo.html
A major goal is to give googlers somewhere to find this information,
some of which is thinly scattered on the web and much of which
not only exists only in print but is indexed only in print.


I'll have to try again with this one. Right now the link to
http://www.astr.ua.edu/ seems to be down, including your page, of
course.
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Old May 17th 04, 08:58 PM
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In article , says...

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The initial version may now be seen at
http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/space/apollo.html
A major goal is to give googlers somewhere to find this information,
some of which is thinly scattered on the web and much of which
not only exists only in print but is indexed only in print.

Additional pointers, information, and notices of things I've screwed
up will be appopriate. So will gripes about my HTML skills, although
I reserve the right to ignore anything that doesn't show up on the
SGI machine I usually work from...


All I can say about the site is that something in the html code is
suppressing the normal Internet Explorer framing. Which includes the
scroll bars. So it's exceedingly difficult to scroll the page down.
You have to highlight text and move down that way, which is a pain in
the butt.

Doug

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Old May 17th 04, 10:23 PM
Jonathan Silverlight
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In message , OM
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org writes
On Mon, 17 May 2004 19:58:04 GMT, Doug...
wrote:

In article , says...

The initial version may now be seen at
http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/space/apollo.html


All I can say about the site is that something in the html code is
suppressing the normal Internet Explorer framing. Which includes the
scroll bars. So it's exceedingly difficult to scroll the page down.
You have to highlight text and move down that way, which is a pain in
the butt.


...Dougie, I checked his site *and* his HTML. It's basic, and there's
nothing there that would screw with the IE framing that I can see.
What I recommend is that you go into Options and purge both your
cookies and cache on IE, then relaunch the browser and see if you're
still having problems. If you are, it's a sign that some ****heel has
loaded some spyware or other trojan disguised as a "popup blocker" or
"search tool assistant" and has hozed your IE. You may need a
reinstall.


I take it you both have no problem getting to the site. It just doesn't
work for me, but a random sample of other sites do work, so it doesn't
seem to be a local problem. Any ideas?
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Old May 17th 04, 10:25 PM
William C. Keel
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OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2004 19:58:04 GMT, Doug...
wrote:


In article , says...

The initial version may now be seen at
http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/space/apollo.html


All I can say about the site is that something in the html code is
suppressing the normal Internet Explorer framing. Which includes the
scroll bars. So it's exceedingly difficult to scroll the page down.
You have to highlight text and move down that way, which is a pain in
the butt.


...Dougie, I checked his site *and* his HTML. It's basic, and there's
nothing there that would screw with the IE framing that I can see.
What I recommend is that you go into Options and purge both your
cookies and cache on IE, then relaunch the browser and see if you're
still having problems. If you are, it's a sign that some ****heel has
loaded some spyware or other trojan disguised as a "popup blocker" or
"search tool assistant" and has hozed your IE. You may need a
reinstall.


That's a slight relief from my end at least - I did check this with IE
on the PC next to that SGI before unleashing it...

Bill Keel
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Old May 17th 04, 10:33 PM
Doug...
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In article ,
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy... _facility.org says...
On Mon, 17 May 2004 19:58:04 GMT, Doug...
wrote:

In article , says...

The initial version may now be seen at
http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/space/apollo.html


All I can say about the site is that something in the html code is
suppressing the normal Internet Explorer framing. Which includes the
scroll bars. So it's exceedingly difficult to scroll the page down.
You have to highlight text and move down that way, which is a pain in
the butt.


...Dougie, I checked his site *and* his HTML. It's basic, and there's
nothing there that would screw with the IE framing that I can see.
What I recommend is that you go into Options and purge both your
cookies and cache on IE, then relaunch the browser and see if you're
still having problems. If you are, it's a sign that some ****heel has
loaded some spyware or other trojan disguised as a "popup blocker" or
"search tool assistant" and has hozed your IE. You may need a
reinstall.


Thanks, OM. It's sorta hard to reinstall IE, but you can always use the
"fix problems" option which basically replaces any of the IE .dll files
that might have been changed by cookies or spyware.

My Ad-Aware doesn't show any adware, spyware or malware on the system,
though. And neither Norton nor TrendMicro show anything bad on my
system, either. I don't have an active pop-up blocker, either.

I have seen several websites that, for whatever reason, load without
scroll bars or a toolbar. I always figured that something in the html
did that...

Doug

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Old May 17th 04, 10:38 PM
Harald Kucharek
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William C. Keel wrote:
OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote:

On Mon, 17 May 2004 19:58:04 GMT, Doug...
wrote:



In article , says...

The initial version may now be seen at
http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/space/apollo.html



All I can say about the site is that something in the html code is
suppressing the normal Internet Explorer framing. Which includes the
scroll bars. So it's exceedingly difficult to scroll the page down.
You have to highlight text and move down that way, which is a pain in
the butt.



...Dougie, I checked his site *and* his HTML. It's basic, and there's
nothing there that would screw with the IE framing that I can see.
What I recommend is that you go into Options and purge both your
cookies and cache on IE, then relaunch the browser and see if you're
still having problems. If you are, it's a sign that some ****heel has
loaded some spyware or other trojan disguised as a "popup blocker" or
"search tool assistant" and has hozed your IE. You may need a
reinstall.



That's a slight relief from my end at least - I did check this with IE
on the PC next to that SGI before unleashing it...

Bill Keel


Bill, your HTML is really basic and the HTML validator at
http://validator.w3.org/ comes up with only a few typos.
Nuthin' serious.

Very interesting stuff - the content, not the HTML ;-)

Harald

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Old May 17th 04, 10:42 PM
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While reading in the bathroom on Mon, 17 May 2004 19:35:28 +0100, I
saw that Jonathan Silverlight
had written:

I'll have to try again with this one. Right now the link to
http://www.astr.ua.edu/ seems to be down, including your page, of
course.


Works fine for me.

BTW, these photos are going to add nothing to the Did We or Didn't We
debate. They're far too fuzzy and indistinct. Quite honestly, I've
seen plenty of clearer (more clear?) UFO photos.


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Old May 17th 04, 10:54 PM
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 19:58:04 GMT, Doug...
wrote:

In article , says...

The initial version may now be seen at
http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/space/apollo.html


All I can say about the site is that something in the html code is
suppressing the normal Internet Explorer framing. Which includes the
scroll bars. So it's exceedingly difficult to scroll the page down.
You have to highlight text and move down that way, which is a pain in
the butt.


....Dougie, I checked his site *and* his HTML. It's basic, and there's
nothing there that would screw with the IE framing that I can see.
What I recommend is that you go into Options and purge both your
cookies and cache on IE, then relaunch the browser and see if you're
still having problems. If you are, it's a sign that some ****heel has
loaded some spyware or other trojan disguised as a "popup blocker" or
"search tool assistant" and has hozed your IE. You may need a
reinstall.

OM

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Old May 17th 04, 11:26 PM
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I take it you both have no problem getting to the site. It just doesn't
work for me, but a random sample of other sites do work, so it doesn't
seem to be a local problem. Any ideas?


Sorry to follow up my own post, which I gather is poor netiquette, but I
restarted my computer and had no problems connecting. I was also able to
connect to the SETI@home server. So it was a local problem after all.
I'm sure this page will grow enormously - the path of Apollo 12 was
reported on TV in the UK, for instance, and I can't have been the only
person who saw it. I'll be sending Bill my drawing - no photo,
unfortunately. ISTR seeing a picture that looks very like my drawing,
which I think shows a fuel dump like that from Apollo 8.
 




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