US Scientists Reject Govt Interference

"Eric Chomko" wrote:

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:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "Eric Chomko" wrote:
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: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : "Eric Chomko" wrote:
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: : :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : : "Eric Chomko" wrote:
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: : : :
: : : :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : : : "Eric Chomko" wrote:
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: : : : : Earth has been steadily warming since the end of the last ice age, even
: : : : : with little detours like the little ice age from ~1300-1850. Mankind
: : : : : has really had nothing to do with this. Nothing Gore and all his
: : : : : syncophants have proposed would do anything to stop the warming trends.
: : : : : Kyoto is just an attempt to destroy the US economy by traditional
: : : : : socialist redistributionist theology.
: : : : :
: : : : :I'll take my chances with earth scientists with data rather than
: : : : :right-wingers with no data and only faith and/or an agenda.
: : : :
: : : : And you'll be quite selective about WHICH "earth scientists" and WHICH
: : : : "data" you elect to believe, simply labeling anyone who disagrees
: : : : "right-wingers".
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: : : :Show me the right-wingers that are earth scientists with data and I'll
: : : :drop the right-winger claim.
: : :
: : : Sorry, El Chimpo. Unlike you, I don't pick who I give credence to
: : : based on their politics. I pick who I give credence to based on their
: : : ability to make a case for their positions.
: : :
: : :Which more claim that GW is real. You make my point!
: :
: : Wrong again, dear boy. Nobody doubts we're seeing a warming trend.
: : All the furor is over WHY.
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: :Science vs. a political agenda.
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: Quite. I keep hoping you'll drop your political agenda, but I doubt
: you will.
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:Science says what I agree with, your's is the political agenda.

Wrong. SOME science says what you agree with. Some disagrees.

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: : : Your ongoing problem is that your views merit no credence.
: : :
: : :Mine are in line with the scientists your's with the politicians on the
: : :right.
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: : No, yours "are in line with" some scientists. Your view of those who
: : disagree with you invalidates your own opinion.
: :
: :Who might they be? Spell it out, Freddy.
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: Who might who be? Stop gibbering, El Chimpo.
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:Who are your scientists? Provide links.

Try actually making a case for your position, El Chimpo.

The problem is that you (and most of the 'Anthropomorphic Global
Warming' folks) understand the issue so poorly that YOU are making
your decisions based on politics.

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: : Whinging "right wing" and "political" isn't evidence to support any
: : position, El Chimpo.
: :
: :No, it is more symptomatic of what and who vs. science.
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: Yes, and you need to stop being "vs. science" with your political
: gibbering and insult.
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:Nice try Freddy...

Yes, I knew you couldn't extract your head...

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: : : : : but don't try killing
: : : : : the golden goose. And don't use the corrupt UN to manage the program,
: : : : : they'll just **** it away worse than any national government would.
: : : : :
: : : : o you think that the US could lead the way without corruption creeping
: : : : :in any more than the UN? Do you really believe that? That we somehow
: : : : :are less corrupt than the rest of the world combined less the US?
: : : :
: : : : Of course.
: : : :
: : : :Yes, no doubt. We are pure. The US is purer that the rest of the world.
: : : :We wear white hats and they black hats. That is the way it is and God
: : : :is on our side. Right, Freddy?
: : :
: : : Go back and read it again. Try to pull your head out of your
: : : parochial ass and actually LOOK at how things get done in most Third
: : : World countries, dumbass.
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: : :Greased palms, payoffs and kickbacks, just like in DC.
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: : Sad to say I believe you really are stupid enough to believe there is
: : no difference between modern Western practice and those Third World
: : pestholes where 'baksheesh' must be paid to get the police to
: : investigate a crime.
: :
: :I was mostly talking about building permits and the like.
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: Which have bugger all to do with anything under discussion. Why does
: your spinning off into irrelevancies not surprise me?
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: :And OJ's case
: :sort of makes a mockery out of your "we are better than they are" rant.
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: How's that? Spell it out, El Chimpo.
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:Baksheesh vs. OJ. What is the difference WRT integrity?

You dislike the outcome of a fair trial, do you? Pity, but typical of
your sort.

:Are all Scotsman as dumb as you?

Are all Chimpkos as fecal as you?

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: : : : Do you think that a bunch of third world countries where corruption is
: : : : part of the normal way of doing business are no more corrupt than we
: : : : are?
: : : :
: : : :Or less. We have watchdog agencies that prevent stuff like the Nigerian
: : : :scams from being commonplace.
: : :
: : : More stupid non sequitur from the home of stupid non sequiturs, Eric
: : : Chimpko.
: : :
: : :No Freddy, the reason our system works is because we have checks and
: : :balances. Capitalism, left alone, tends to look like what you see in
: : :Third World countries.
: :
: : Wrong. Do study some economics and get back to me, won't you?
: :
: :I already have. There is too much supply of you and no demand for you.
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: You better get your money back. If there was no demand for me there
: would be no market for me and no price, yet I'm paid quite well.
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:How well? And remember it is not what you make but what you keep that
:counts.

So you think there's some magical difference that leads to making more
but keeping less? Confiscatory taxation, anyone?

: So much for your 'knowledge' of anything at all.
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: :Touche', you twit...
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: Keep your grubby little paws to yourself, El Chimpo.
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: : : :
: : : : :If
: : : : :so, then spell it out for me. Start with invading Iraq.
: : : :
: : : : What's invading Iraq got to do with corruption or lack thereof, Eric?
: : : :
: : : :Everything!!
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: : : Oh, I'm convinced, then. Try citing the corruption, dumbass...
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: : :Invading under false implications of WMD. There were and are none.
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: : That's not 'corruption', you stupid ass. Buy a dictionary and get
: : back to me.
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: :To make money for his cronies? It IS corruption, and on a grand scale!
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: Except there's no evidence of any such thing except in your delusions.
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: :
: : : :Bush's legitamacy for starters. Cheney next and so on in
: : : :the administration.
: : :
: : : Oh, I see. You're merely insane. Carry on, then...
: : :
: : :No, you accept tyranny. I reject it, just like our founding fathers
: : :suggested we Americans do. You would have made a fine Tory.
: :
: : Oh, you're not merely insane. You're a liar into the bargain.
: :
: : Anyone surprise?
: :
: :Yes, call youir opponent insane. That is a way to debate. Weakling.
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: Spew idiocy and insanity and then object when you're called on it.
: That is a way to debate. Wankling.
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: : :Bush/Cheney Et. Al. first and foremost are business people, oil
: : :business people. They have fallen in league with the defense industry
: : :and used the presidency to further their business agenda in the best
: : :interest to themselves. The Ameirican people be damned is their silent
: : :motto. They moonlight as politicians at best as their main focus is
: : :serving themselves and the core constituency of rich industrialists in
: : :business that bankrolled them in the first place. There is not a
: : :statesman among the lot. Colin Powell perhaps thought of trying to do
: : :that but quickly realized what these people were all about and got out.
: :
: : A fine tirade based on not one whit of evidence.
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: :It is all there and true to boot.
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: Apparently not.
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: :Gerald Ford even agrees going into
: :Iraq was a mistake.
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: So?
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:Tell Rand as he felt the need to defend him, though I have a Washington
:Post article that states Ford's stance on the war clearly.

I say again, so?

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: : About what I'd have expected from a conspiracy theorist like El
: : Chimpo. Better make sure that tin foil beanie is nice and tight,
: : Eric...
: :
: :Yep, call your opponent insane when you lack a counter argument.
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: For me to lack a 'counter argument' you would first have to present an
: argument. All you present is insane ramblings.
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: o your shills pay you in shillings. mrmrmrmrmrmrmrmhahahahahahahahahah
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: Poor El Chimpo. This is his idea of 'wit'.
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: Now blot before you short out your keyboard...
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:At $2 a piece at the local thrift store shorting out KBs is the least
f my worries, wort...

Well, I was starting with the simple things, since I expect your
intellect and personality aren't really fixable.

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your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
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