Robertson advocates stoning for UFO enthusiasts

Matt Giwer wrote:
I know, no UFO crap but when by implication this explains "where are
they" and paves the way to stone S@H people, and damn the demon computers
which should they ever succeed. Anyway, some things are too absurd to not to
post.

Robertson Advocates 'Stoning' For UFO Enthusiasts

by Skipp Porteous

FREEDOM WRITER PRESS RELEASE

Great Barrington, MA -- In a recent pronouncement, television evangelist and
head of the Christian Coalition, Pat Robertson, advocated death by stoning
for UFO enthusiasts. Freedom Writer magazine, in its July/August issue,
mailed today, disclosed Robertson's statement. Freedom Writer is published
by the Institute for First Amendment Studies, a group that monitors the
right.

Robertson used the news of the July 4th Mars landing to promote his extreme
beliefs. A segment on the July 8, 1997 broadcast of The 700 Club featured
news of the Mars Pathfinder mission. Employing the historical event as a
starting point, the program delved into the possibility of the existence of
UFOs and space aliens.

While Robertson viewed the space program with suspicion, on a more serious
note, he launched into a diatribe against those who entertain the existence
of space aliens and UFOs. He said, in a rambling discourse, that if such
things exist, they are simply demons trying to lead people away from Christ.

According to Robertson, the threat is so serious that people who believe in
space aliens should be put to death by stoning -- according to "God's word."

"The Bible says the Earth belongs to man, but the heavens belong to the
Lord," Robertson said.

"He has given us the Earth. He also warned, way back when Moses was writing
down not only what is the Ten Commandments, but Deuteronomy, which is almost
the Second Law.

"Here is what he said to the children of Israel about this whole matter:

"'If there is found among you, within any of your gates which the Lord your
God gives you, a man or a woman who has been wicked in the sight of the Lord
your God, in transgressing His covenant, who has gone and served other gods
and worshipped them, either the sun or moon or any of the hosts of heaven
which I have not commanded you, and you hear of it, then you shall inquire
diligently. And if it is indeed true and certain that such an abomination
has been committed in Israel, then you shall bring out to your gates that
man or woman who has committed that wicked thing, and stone to death that
man or woman with stones.'" (Deuteronomy 17:2-5, NKJV)

"Now, that's what Moses said to the children of Israel about those who
worship the sun and the moon and the hosts of heaven, because these things,
at best, are lifeless nothings, or, if they are intelligent, they're
demonic. And, yes, there is a host of heaven. There are angels and there are
fallen angels. There is no question about it." "Can a demon appear as a
slanty-eyed, funny-looking creature? Of course he can, or it can. Of course
they can deceive people. And if they can lead somebody away from the true
God, or away from Jesus Christ, anyway it happens, it doesn't matter, you
will lose your salvation. It doesn't matter how they get you. The question
is, did they get you, and under what guise?

"This is man in rebellion against God, who refuses to take God's Law. And
God says, 'My covenant says you won't do this. And if I find anybody in
Israel,'-- "which is his pure nation" -- 'If I find anybody in Israel that's
doing this sort of thing, then I want you to take him out and dispose of
him."

"It's a clear violation of God's word."

Skipp Porteous, Freedom Writer publisher, commented: "As the founder and
chairman of the Christian Coalition -- a group dedicated to becoming the
most powerful political force in America -- Robertson's extreme ideas need
to be taken seriously, for they not only negate pluralism, but condemn to
death those who dare to believe differently."

Opinion:

Cast The First Stone, Pat?

A Rebuttal by James Neff

Source: Jeff Rense Sightings

Robertson spews his venom from a low place in the dirt, preying on the fear
and ignorance of people he knows are angry and dissatisfied with life and
frustrated with society. In the name of Christ, Robertson advocates a
dismissal of everything taught by Jesus, and opts for the heaving of stones;
murder for missionaries; blood for baptisms. Like McCarthy who came before
him, Pat Robertson is a parasite who relies on preaching a condemnative
suspicion of everyone outside of his narrow mindset. Now he targets people
in the UFO community, labeling them as worshipers of the demonic and stating
plainly that God's law requires a death sentence for such activity. In as
much as it is frightening to remember that this man ran for President and
garnished a large block of voters, It is equally reassuring to realize that
it was God's will that he not have his hateful finger on the nuclear
trigger. Instead, God entrusted that to a man considered by most to be a
philandering, adulterous, liar.

Pat Robertson's comments offend me, as both a Christian and a human being. A
man like Robertson understands all too well the effects of his voice, and
his choice of words is rarely off the cuff. When a man of his notoriety
makes such visceral comments to millions via satellite, one has to wonder
about his ultimate agenda. Anyone who has read a Robertson book can see he
is not capable of viewing any moment as 'mundane,' so this is not likely a
slip of the tongue or a misplaced or misunderstood conjecture related to
theology.

As a Christian, I am taught we are to judge our own within the church, as we
have no right to judge those outside of the faith (something Pat easily
forgets). As Paul opposed Peter to his face, publicly, I also oppose
Robertson to his face and call for him to ask forgiveness from God and man.
He brings reproach and shame upon the church of Jesus Christ with his
depraved dictates. Any Christian with a heart after the Lord should abandon
Robertson immediately. Cease listening to him and pray for him. Something is
terribly wrong in him.

The very idea of 'stoning' ufo-enthusiasts, believers or 'researchers' is
utterly 'anti-christian'. Jesus said, "Let him who is without sin cast the
first stone," and left us with a clear mandate regarding such practices.
Robertson knows very well, as an astute theologian, that the teachings of
the Law as shown in the Old Testament were specific to Israel and only
during the time of punishment. Robertson draws from elements in the Law
unrelated to the Ten Commandments, dipping into unique civil ordinances
utterly static in our modern world. From a purely theo-political
perspective, one cannot impose the Old Testament ordinances and statues upon
a free society, and by no means were these laws, then or now, intended for
the world at large.

Christ came in mortal flesh and, as he read openly from the scroll of Isaiah
at the beginning of his ministry, said plainly, "The Spirit of the Lord is
upon me, because he has anointed me to preach the GOOD NEWS to the poor; he
has sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives
and recovery of sight to the blind; to set at liberty them that are
afflicted, and to proclaim the favorable year of the Lord." This began the
administration of a merciful outreach from the Creator of all things to
mankind through Jesus Christ. Robertson has but one duty as an evangelist,
and that is to preach the 'good news' and to 'proclaim the favorable year of
the Lord,' to ALL. To call for stoning is absolutely the height of madness.
To even hint at it is blasphemous. What's next? Concentration camps? A
'Final Solution' to the problem of non-Christians in Pat's twisted view of
the world?

Pat Robertson knows the bounds of his ministry. He is not ignorant of his
calling and purpose. This is a man violating the laws of God himself,
openly, deviously and seemingly attempting to spark heinous behavior from
the weak and disturbed in his flock. He, like the Pharisees and Saducees of
Jesus' day, desires to take "the kingdom by violence" (Matthew 11:12), here
and now, by human agency and by political force, instead of waiting for the
mustard seed of faith of which Jesus spoke to bloom into a mighty tree
filling the whole earth. He cannot wait for God's kingdom and righteousness
to come in its own time, according to God's will. Robertson seeks to conduct
the justice of God by his own fleshly medium and like his ancient
counterparts in the San Hedrin, will pass judgment upon those around him,
even to the extreme of suggesting the death penalty for involvement in UFO
interest! He reveals himself to be unworthy of the mantle he possesses as a
leader of fundamentalist Christians in this nation. With these words, he
reveals his inmost self, for "out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth
speaks" (Matthew 12:34).

He does not speak for Christ, Christianity or the Church universal, mystical
or organized.

Christ said, "Judge a tree by its fruits. A good tree cannot produce bad
fruit, and a bad tree cannot produce good fruits." By this we have a means
of understanding true quality, both spiritually and practically. The fruits
of such words as Rev. Robertson's lead to nothing but division, factions,
enmity, strife, anger and resentment. Is it possible that Robertson desires
his words to lead to violence? Is his aim to ignite discord and further
shame the name of Christ and His true people? And these things, according to
scripture, are not fruits of the Holy Spirit, but of the flesh; born is sin
and activated in the very demonic evil Robertson claims is the sole
profession of aliens from space. Our worst enemy is here on earth, and is
quite mortal. The Antichrist himself will be mortal. The Apostle Paul
taught, "Do no be surprised that Satan comes as an angel of light, or his
ministers as ministers of righteousness."




Ah, ha, a reverse-troll post.

First, let it be known that Pat Robinson is an extremist. His views are
not representive of the majority of Christians' views, and he took the
Bible verses he quoted WAY out of context. Please, don't let the
nutcases get to you.

Lambchop wrote:

Matt Giwer wrote:

I know, no UFO crap but when by implication this explains "where are
they" and paves the way to stone S@H people, and damn the demon computers
which should they ever succeed. Anyway, some things are too absurd to
not to
post.

Robertson Advocates 'Stoning' For UFO Enthusiasts

by Skipp Porteous

FREEDOM WRITER PRESS RELEASE

Great Barrington, MA -- In a recent pronouncement, television
evangelist and
head of the Christian Coalition, Pat Robertson, advocated death by
stoning
for UFO enthusiasts. Freedom Writer magazine, in its July/August issue,
mailed today, disclosed Robertson's statement. Freedom Writer is
published
by the Institute for First Amendment Studies, a group that monitors the
right.

Robertson used the news of the July 4th Mars landing to promote his
extreme
beliefs. A segment on the July 8, 1997 broadcast of The 700 Club featured
news of the Mars Pathfinder mission. Employing the historical event as a
starting point, the program delved into the possibility of the
existence of
UFOs and space aliens.

While Robertson viewed the space program with suspicion, on a more
serious
note, he launched into a diatribe against those who entertain the
existence
of space aliens and UFOs. He said, in a rambling discourse, that if such
things exist, they are simply demons trying to lead people away from
Christ.

According to Robertson, the threat is so serious that people who
believe in
space aliens should be put to death by stoning -- according to "God's
word."

"The Bible says the Earth belongs to man, but the heavens belong to the
Lord," Robertson said.

"He has given us the Earth. He also warned, way back when Moses was
writing
down not only what is the Ten Commandments, but Deuteronomy, which is
almost
the Second Law.

"Here is what he said to the children of Israel about this whole matter:

"'If there is found among you, within any of your gates which the Lord
your
God gives you, a man or a woman who has been wicked in the sight of
the Lord
your God, in transgressing His covenant, who has gone and served other
gods
and worshipped them, either the sun or moon or any of the hosts of heaven
which I have not commanded you, and you hear of it, then you shall
inquire
diligently. And if it is indeed true and certain that such an abomination
has been committed in Israel, then you shall bring out to your gates that
man or woman who has committed that wicked thing, and stone to death that
man or woman with stones.'" (Deuteronomy 17:2-5, NKJV)

"Now, that's what Moses said to the children of Israel about those who
worship the sun and the moon and the hosts of heaven, because these
things,
at best, are lifeless nothings, or, if they are intelligent, they're
demonic. And, yes, there is a host of heaven. There are angels and
there are
fallen angels. There is no question about it." "Can a demon appear as a
slanty-eyed, funny-looking creature? Of course he can, or it can. Of
course
they can deceive people. And if they can lead somebody away from the true
God, or away from Jesus Christ, anyway it happens, it doesn't matter, you
will lose your salvation. It doesn't matter how they get you. The
question
is, did they get you, and under what guise?

"This is man in rebellion against God, who refuses to take God's Law. And
God says, 'My covenant says you won't do this. And if I find anybody in
Israel,'-- "which is his pure nation" -- 'If I find anybody in Israel
that's
doing this sort of thing, then I want you to take him out and dispose of
him."

"It's a clear violation of God's word."

Skipp Porteous, Freedom Writer publisher, commented: "As the founder and
chairman of the Christian Coalition -- a group dedicated to becoming the
most powerful political force in America -- Robertson's extreme ideas
need
to be taken seriously, for they not only negate pluralism, but condemn to
death those who dare to believe differently."

Opinion:

Cast The First Stone, Pat?

A Rebuttal by James Neff

Source: Jeff Rense Sightings

Robertson spews his venom from a low place in the dirt, preying on the
fear
and ignorance of people he knows are angry and dissatisfied with life and
frustrated with society. In the name of Christ, Robertson advocates a
dismissal of everything taught by Jesus, and opts for the heaving of
stones;
murder for missionaries; blood for baptisms. Like McCarthy who came
before
him, Pat Robertson is a parasite who relies on preaching a condemnative
suspicion of everyone outside of his narrow mindset. Now he targets
people
in the UFO community, labeling them as worshipers of the demonic and
stating
plainly that God's law requires a death sentence for such activity. In as
much as it is frightening to remember that this man ran for President and
garnished a large block of voters, It is equally reassuring to realize
that
it was God's will that he not have his hateful finger on the nuclear
trigger. Instead, God entrusted that to a man considered by most to be a
philandering, adulterous, liar.

Pat Robertson's comments offend me, as both a Christian and a human
being. A
man like Robertson understands all too well the effects of his voice, and
his choice of words is rarely off the cuff. When a man of his notoriety
makes such visceral comments to millions via satellite, one has to wonder
about his ultimate agenda. Anyone who has read a Robertson book can
see he
is not capable of viewing any moment as 'mundane,' so this is not
likely a
slip of the tongue or a misplaced or misunderstood conjecture related to
theology.

As a Christian, I am taught we are to judge our own within the church,
as we
have no right to judge those outside of the faith (something Pat easily
forgets). As Paul opposed Peter to his face, publicly, I also oppose
Robertson to his face and call for him to ask forgiveness from God and
man.
He brings reproach and shame upon the church of Jesus Christ with his
depraved dictates. Any Christian with a heart after the Lord should
abandon
Robertson immediately. Cease listening to him and pray for him.
Something is
terribly wrong in him.

The very idea of 'stoning' ufo-enthusiasts, believers or 'researchers' is
utterly 'anti-christian'. Jesus said, "Let him who is without sin cast
the
first stone," and left us with a clear mandate regarding such practices.
Robertson knows very well, as an astute theologian, that the teachings of
the Law as shown in the Old Testament were specific to Israel and only
during the time of punishment. Robertson draws from elements in the Law
unrelated to the Ten Commandments, dipping into unique civil ordinances
utterly static in our modern world. From a purely theo-political
perspective, one cannot impose the Old Testament ordinances and
statues upon
a free society, and by no means were these laws, then or now, intended
for
the world at large.

Christ came in mortal flesh and, as he read openly from the scroll of
Isaiah
at the beginning of his ministry, said plainly, "The Spirit of the
Lord is
upon me, because he has anointed me to preach the GOOD NEWS to the
poor; he
has sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the
captives
and recovery of sight to the blind; to set at liberty them that are
afflicted, and to proclaim the favorable year of the Lord." This began
the
administration of a merciful outreach from the Creator of all things to
mankind through Jesus Christ. Robertson has but one duty as an
evangelist,
and that is to preach the 'good news' and to 'proclaim the favorable
year of
the Lord,' to ALL. To call for stoning is absolutely the height of
madness.
To even hint at it is blasphemous. What's next? Concentration camps? A
'Final Solution' to the problem of non-Christians in Pat's twisted
view of
the world?

Pat Robertson knows the bounds of his ministry. He is not ignorant of his
calling and purpose. This is a man violating the laws of God himself,
openly, deviously and seemingly attempting to spark heinous behavior from
the weak and disturbed in his flock. He, like the Pharisees and
Saducees of
Jesus' day, desires to take "the kingdom by violence" (Matthew 11:12),
here
and now, by human agency and by political force, instead of waiting
for the
mustard seed of faith of which Jesus spoke to bloom into a mighty tree
filling the whole earth. He cannot wait for God's kingdom and
righteousness
to come in its own time, according to God's will. Robertson seeks to
conduct
the justice of God by his own fleshly medium and like his ancient
counterparts in the San Hedrin, will pass judgment upon those around him,
even to the extreme of suggesting the death penalty for involvement in
UFO
interest! He reveals himself to be unworthy of the mantle he possesses
as a
leader of fundamentalist Christians in this nation. With these words, he
reveals his inmost self, for "out of the abundance of the heart, the
mouth
speaks" (Matthew 12:34).

He does not speak for Christ, Christianity or the Church universal,
mystical
or organized.

Christ said, "Judge a tree by its fruits. A good tree cannot produce bad
fruit, and a bad tree cannot produce good fruits." By this we have a
means
of understanding true quality, both spiritually and practically. The
fruits
of such words as Rev. Robertson's lead to nothing but division, factions,
enmity, strife, anger and resentment. Is it possible that Robertson
desires
his words to lead to violence? Is his aim to ignite discord and further
shame the name of Christ and His true people? And these things,
according to
scripture, are not fruits of the Holy Spirit, but of the flesh; born
is sin
and activated in the very demonic evil Robertson claims is the sole
profession of aliens from space. Our worst enemy is here on earth, and is
quite mortal. The Antichrist himself will be mortal. The Apostle Paul
taught, "Do no be surprised that Satan comes as an angel of light, or his
ministers as ministers of righteousness."




Ah, ha, a reverse-troll post.

First, let it be known that Pat Robinson is an extremist. His views are
not representive of the majority of Christians' views, and he took the
Bible verses he quoted WAY out of context. Please, don't let the
nutcases get to you.

I found this announcement from Pat Robertson on the 'net to be about 7
years old -- nothing new there. Robertson isn't merely an extremist, he
and his ilk have quite a popular following. They basically control the
Republican Party and White House. God, guns, and country -- the (very)
old power alignment.

My humble suggestion for the future of the planet: if we ever need to
select a member of Homo sapiens to represent the human race for First
Contact, we scratch Christian fundamentalists off the list of candidates?

Paul Bramscher wrote:

My humble suggestion for the future of the planet: if we ever need to
select a member of Homo sapiens to represent the human race for First
Contact, we scratch Christian fundamentalists off the list of candidates?

If you look at the old War of the Worlds you see the Martians are
better at dealing with them than we are.

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