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Old March 24th 08, 04:53 PM posted to alt.astronomy
G=EMC^2 Glazier[_1_]
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Default How Much Help does EM give to Quantum Gravity ???

Think of Moon's magnetic dust. Does space dust have a magnetic field?
Did it help form solar objects(rock iron,and water) ? Particle to
particle it is a strong attractive force Bert

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Old March 24th 08, 06:22 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Default Magnetospheric Eternally Collapsing Objects ( MECO's )

Have you seen the Double Helix Nebula ( NASA/JPL-Caltech/UCLA ) ? :
http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827..._nebula_02.jpg
http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827...nebula2_02.jpg
http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827...nebula3_02.jpg

“ Magnetic forces at the center of the galaxy
have twisted a nebula into the shape of DNA, a new study reveals. ”

“ Magnetic field lines at the galactic center
are about 1,000 times stronger than on Earth.

They run perpendicular to the black hole,
but parallel through the nebula.

Scientists think that twisting of these lines
is what causes the double helix shape. ”

“ It's as if there's a bar across the middle [ of the black hole ],
or a dumbbell shape, where the strands are anchored, and
as it spins around, it twists the strands together. ”

“ Massive central black holes are the best sources for
both the strong magnetic field and rotating body... ”
-- http://www.Space.COM/scienceastronom...na_nebula.html

Quoting WikiPedia:
“ The standard GR collapse and the black hole paradigm assumes that
once the collapse would cross the neutron star stage with z ≈ .1,

it would directly proceed to the infinitely far away z = ∞
black hole stage in a flash ( free fall time scale ) ! ”.
[ “ z = ∞ ” means it'd be infinitely redshifted to us humans ]

It couldn't be a free fall, free of all pressure, sans inertial mass.
Even assuming a God-like force could accelerate objects
to the speed of light like that, light has inertial mass. does it not ?

The heat and pressure of a supernova would be so great,
only a Magnetospheric Eternally Collapsing Object ( MECO ) could form,
not a black hole.

Quoting Einstein ( 1939 ):
“ The ‘ Schwarzschild singularity ’ does not appear
for the reason that matter cannot be concentrated arbitrarily.

And this is due to the fact that otherwise
the constituting particles would reach the velocity of light. ”.

Nasa.GOV constantly talks about these metaphysical, supernatural,
God-like, comic-book-like objects known as “ Black Holes ”.

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Old March 24th 08, 09:50 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Default Magnetospheric Eternally Collapsing Objects ( MECO's )

I've seen the Helix Nebula in a 6-inch telescope.

Saul Levy


On 24 Mar 2008 17:22:36 GMT, Jeff?Relf wrote:

Have you seen the Double Helix Nebula ( NASA/JPL-Caltech/UCLA ) ? :
http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827..._nebula_02.jpg
http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827...nebula2_02.jpg
http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827...nebula3_02.jpg

Magnetic forces at the center of the galaxy
have twisted a nebula into the shape of DNA, a new study reveals.

Magnetic field lines at the galactic center
are about 1,000 times stronger than on Earth.

They run perpendicular to the black hole,
but parallel through the nebula.

Scientists think that twisting of these lines
is what causes the double helix shape.

It's as if there's a bar across the middle [ of the black hole ],
or a dumbbell shape, where the strands are anchored, and
as it spins around, it twists the strands together.

Massive central black holes are the best sources for
both the strong magnetic field and rotating body...
-- http://www.Space.COM/scienceastronom...na_nebula.html

Quoting WikiPedia:
The standard GR collapse and the black hole paradigm assumes that
once the collapse would cross the neutron star stage with z ? .1,

it would directly proceed to the infinitely far away z = ?
black hole stage in a flash ( free fall time scale ) ! .
[ z = ? means it'd be infinitely redshifted to us humans ]

It couldn't be a free fall, free of all pressure, sans inertial mass.
Even assuming a God-like force could accelerate objects
to the speed of light like that, light has inertial mass. does it not ?

The heat and pressure of a supernova would be so great,
only a Magnetospheric Eternally Collapsing Object ( MECO ) could form,
not a black hole.

Quoting Einstein ( 1939 ):
The Schwarzschild singularity does not appear
for the reason that matter cannot be concentrated arbitrarily.

And this is due to the fact that otherwise
the constituting particles would reach the velocity of light. .

Nasa.GOV constantly talks about these metaphysical, supernatural,
God-like, comic-book-like objects known as Black Holes .

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Old March 24th 08, 10:48 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message
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Think of Moon's magnetic dust. Does space dust have a magnetic field?
Did it help form solar objects(rock iron,and water) ? Particle to
particle it is a strong attractive force Bert


Hey Beeeert, Quantum gravy tastes really good on biscuits ...


 




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