Magnetosphere or Gravity; which is in charge?

Now we have the secondary or backup plan-B as our faith based
alternative, such as lord/wizard "dan@" in full support of their
singular BIG-BANG holy grail, of such Old Testament thumping folks
claiming and/or perhaps as a Jewish form of ranting on behalf of an
electromagnetic or galactic black hole magnetosphere analogy "The
galaxy is a zero point machine producing mass, energy and spawns new
galaxies from vacuum energy", as being in charge of their forever
expanding universe that's somehow limited as to being their "one
endless universe", and thereby obviously representing the one and only
such universe in their mostly Old Testament certified town. The jest
of their analogy or rant on behalf of such magnetic energy being a
stronger than or at least of equal force to that of gravity, of which
I obviously don't exactly buy into because, it simply isn't cosure
within the regular laws of their own physics, nor can this otherwise
be forced via lab substantiations any better off than physics or
independent replicated science can support our having walked on the
moon, or for that matter of our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) having
claimed Islamics or whatever weird postal going Muslims actually had
any of those pesky WMD at their disposal, much less having the intent
to have used such WMD simply because we're so good at having been
keeping such nonjewish folks in such a nifty servitude or nearly slave
like existence, while we manage to suck down most of their energy
resources like there's no tomorrow, and at the same time deny their
access to utilizing nuclear derived energy.

At least the few and far between honest likes of "malibu" are still
sharing in common sense that also works entirely within the regular
laws of physics.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...5cbe54bb01c5d9
Galaxies do not grow any more than atoms
grow (i.e. in extreme fusion events).
Galaxies do not beget galaxies any more than
atoms beget atoms. It takes extreme energy
events to produce both and these happen only
in certain places in the Universe.

Another nifty tidbit of information that's worth our knowing about.
http://www.nrao.edu/pr/2000/v4641/
"Scientists have discovered the closest black hole yet, a mere 1,600
light years from Earth. Its discovery was heralded by four of the most
dramatic rapid X-ray intensity changes ever seen from one star."

The mass of that black hole, if it were instead to be compared as
being merely equal to whatever the entire Sirius star/(solar system)
plus its Kuiper belt and Oort cloud of combined gravitational
influence upon us amounts to, would as such need to become 34,596 fold
greater than the total worth of all that's Sirius, or roughly 103,788
times worthy of greater mass than the sum total of our wussy little
solar system. Fortunately, it is simply not anywhere nearly as
massive as it would need to be.

"In galaxy-core quasars, the black holes are millions of times more
massive than the Sun; in the more nearby microquasars the black holes
are roughly three to twenty times more massive than the Sun."

Twenty fold worth of solar mass units simply isn't hardly worth all
that much potential influence at 1,600 light years from our sol. The
nearby black hole or microquasar of V4641 at 8.73 ~ 11.70 solar mass
simply isn't worthy of most any given argument with respect to such a
minor black hole mass having an influence upon our meager existence,
that is unless the microquasar magnetosphere was at least a million
fold more robust per given density of its stellar like mass, than
otherwise being the likely case. So, that pretty much leaves us stuck
with and/or as having been influenced by the likes of the nearly 3X
massive and otherwise absolutely terrific energy worth of the
extremely nearby Sirius star/solar system.

There's more than enough gravity existing between sol and Sirius to
being measurable, and there's enough greater combined mass and thereby
force of gravity associated with Sirius in order to insure that we're
the ones being pulled along and doing the orbiting, such as once every
105,000 ~ 110,000 some odd years at this galactic time (our having
more frequent orbital cycles as we go back in time).

Unfortunately, the Sirius star/solar system is sequestered deep within
this mostly anti-think-tank naysay land, of Usenet banishment or
simply of whatever evidence exclusion accomplishes the trick of
keeping that mainstream good ship LOLLIPOP of theirs from excessively
rocking.

There's not all that much question that our many ice ages and
subsequent thawing cycles had been directly related to our orbiting of
Sirius, with the minor exception as having been taking place from the
very last ice age and ongoing thaw this Earth will ever see, as being
primarily due to our having obtained that nifty but rather GW trauma
causing moon, of which its lithobraking arrival is what also managed
to force mother Earth out of a somewhat elliptical moduated monoseason
with merely a solar forced tide, and ever since into having a rather
good deal of seasonal tilt and somewhat terrific moon forced tides
(especially at first).
-
Brad Guth

That's what I'd thought. You folks allow another Jew to spout off
anything that's in any way supporting of your singular cosmic BIG
BANG, and/or of your forever expanding singular universe, without
giving it your usual benefit of the typical topic/author stalking or
bashings.

Apparently butt sucking up to your Old Testament mindset is what works
each and every time, even if those notions or whatever infomercial
crapolla are simply dead wrong.
-
Brad Guth

On 25 Mar 2007 09:10:20 -0700, the following appeared in
sci.skeptic, posted by :

That's what I'd thought. You folks allow another Jew to spout off
anything that's in any way supporting of your singular cosmic BIG
BANG, and/or of your forever expanding singular universe, without
giving it your usual benefit of the typical topic/author stalking or
bashings.

Apparently butt sucking up to your Old Testament mindset is what works
each and every time, even if those notions or whatever infomercial
crapolla are simply dead wrong.

Can anyone join this free-association thread? Would
psilocybin also be of aid to others?

And you never did answer whether you can breathe poison at
800F...
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

On Mar 25, 11:19 am, Bob Casanova wrote:

And you never did answer whether you can breathe poison at
800F...

That's being rather naysay silly; Do submarine crews need to breath
salt water?

Do those ISS/ESS crew members need to survive upon their having to
breath vacuum?

Do the seriously dumb and dumber folks like yourself require others in
order to wipe your infomercial spewing butts?

Is your intellectual bigotry and other arrogance because of incest, or
is it all because of some other Old Testament faith-based crapolla?
-
Brad Guth

In sci.physics,

wrote
on 25 Mar 2007 12:58:58 -0700
. com:
On Mar 25, 11:19 am, Bob Casanova wrote:

And you never did answer whether you can breathe poison at
800F...

That's being rather naysay silly; Do submarine crews need to breath
salt water?

Do those ISS/ESS crew members need to survive upon their having to
breath vacuum?

They won't be breathing anyway. The radiation will get them long before
the air gives out.


Do the seriously dumb and dumber folks like yourself require others in
order to wipe your infomercial spewing butts?

Is your intellectual bigotry and other arrogance because of incest, or
is it all because of some other Old Testament faith-based crapolla?
-
Brad Guth



--
#191,
Windows Vista. It'll Fix Everything(tm).

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On Mar 25, 1:15 pm, The Ghost In The Machine
wrote:
In sci.physics,

wrote
Do those ISS/ESS crew members need to survive upon their having to
breath vacuum?

They won't be breathing anyway. The radiation will get them long before
the air gives out.

That's rather silly, unless you're talking about their being in a
nasty lunar orbit.

Venus on the other hand is better off than Earth at protecting our
frail DNA from cosmic and solar rads.
-
Brad Guth

In sci.physics,

wrote
on 26 Mar 2007 01:36:28 -0700
.com:
On Mar 25, 1:15 pm, The Ghost In The Machine
wrote:
In sci.physics,

wrote
Do those ISS/ESS crew members need to survive upon their having to
breath vacuum?

They won't be breathing anyway. The radiation will get them long before
the air gives out.

That's rather silly, unless you're talking about their being in a
nasty lunar orbit.

Venus on the other hand is better off than Earth at protecting our
frail DNA from cosmic and solar rads.

And how do they get there without getting fried, again?

-
Brad Guth



--
#191,
New Technology? Not There. No Thanks.

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On 25 Mar 2007 12:58:58 -0700, the following appeared in
sci.skeptic, posted by :

On Mar 25, 11:19 am, Bob Casanova wrote:

And you never did answer whether you can breathe poison at
800F...

That's being rather naysay silly; Do submarine crews need to breath
salt water?

No. But no one seems to be making the idiotic assertion that
500' down in the ocean is easily colonizable, either. Would
you like to add the continental shelf to Venus as another of
those readily colonizable areas?

Do those ISS/ESS crew members need to survive upon their having to
breath vacuum?

Are we "colonizing" LEO? And not to put too fine a point on
it, a vacuum environment such as Luna is *far* less inimical
than the surface of Venus *or* the bottom of the ocean.

Do the seriously dumb and dumber folks like yourself require others in
order to wipe your infomercial spewing butts?

Do you have some actual point to make, or are you, as usual,
only interested in attacking those who disagree with you?

Is your intellectual bigotry and other arrogance because of incest, or
is it all because of some other Old Testament faith-based crapolla?

See previous question. Disagreement does not constitute
either intellectual bigotry or arrogance. AAMOF, *your*
posts seem to qualify quite nicely in those respects.
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:15:11 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by The Ghost In The Machine
:

In sci.physics,

wrote
on 25 Mar 2007 12:58:58 -0700
.com:
On Mar 25, 11:19 am, Bob Casanova wrote:

And you never did answer whether you can breathe poison at
800F...

That's being rather naysay silly; Do submarine crews need to breath
salt water?

Do those ISS/ESS crew members need to survive upon their having to
breath vacuum?

They won't be breathing anyway. The radiation will get them long before
the air gives out.

Doesn't seem to have happened so far...


Do the seriously dumb and dumber folks like yourself require others in
order to wipe your infomercial spewing butts?

Is your intellectual bigotry and other arrogance because of incest, or
is it all because of some other Old Testament faith-based crapolla?
-
Brad Guth



--
#191,
Windows Vista. It'll Fix Everything(tm).
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

I can actually see all the mainstream crapolla hitting that status quo
or bust ceiling fan, not to mention seeing all of those brown-nosed
minions as MI/NSA clowns running a amock.

In spite of all the incoming flak that I'm taking on, I would have to
think gravity is in charge, and that's not hardly by any small margin.

Even a black hole's magnetosphere is no significant match against the
good old force of gravity.

For instance, our physically dark and massive moon that's having been
somewhat recently orbiting us so nearby (ever since the last ice age),
and thereby having unavoidably caused so much GW trauma into our
environment, and otherwise having applied tidal and gravitational
energy into the planetology that's below our two left dumbfounded
feet, is simply a much hotter environment in a very DNA lethal rad/rem
TBI sort of way, as having been more so nasty than any portion of the
Van Allen belts could ever hope to become. We can all thank the
god(s) of gravity and physics for having accomplished that task, of
our moon having been and still being the great reactive collector or
morgue of all that's solar and cosmic, plus hosting whatever's
radioactive about itself.
-
Brad Guth