Humanity has spiked atmospheric carbon dioxide. 

Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote:

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!important;Font-Family: monospace !important;' Humanity has spiked
atmospheric carbon dioxide; see:


http://www.southwestclimatechange.or...re_records.jpg

Last 20 thousand years, as atmospheric carbon dioxide has risen,
the earth has warmed and Sea Levels rose 130 meters; see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_le..._geologic_time
http://www.southwestclimatechange.or...l/past-present

"eXergy" is energy that can do work.
As eXergy is consumed, entropy rachets up.

The battle for the (limited) exergy prize is between:

· The carbon dioxide breathers ( Algae and Plants ).

· The oxygen breathers ( Fungi and Animals ).

Algae and Plants are siblings.
Fungi and Animals are siblings of a different parent.

Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide won't stop rising unless·and·until
Algae and Plants beat·back Fungi and Animals.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon...on centration

Then you have to ask why the outer planets are also heating up.
I still see it as a long term cycle. I highly doubt we have the technology
to clear up any planet wide problems. And that we can't even clean up the
mess at Fukishima, which is dumping tons of radioactive substances into the
ocean every day.

"Jeff-Relf.Me" wrote in message
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Society, the world around,
thinks it's everyone's God·given right
to breed as often as you want, no matter what.

When resources get low, it's time for a nice war.
As if bombs ever solved the problem.

We wouldn't treat our pets this badly;
we spay and neuter them.

http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Einstein.HTM
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/The_Cosmic_Horizon_.HTM


*** We could, for a start, neuter all non contributing and
parasitic deadbeats, preferably without anesthetic and with
the aid of a rusty knife blade ... this step would greatly reduce
CO2 emissions and Oxygen consumption by the proletariat.

PRE Style='White-Space: PRE !important; Font-Size: 18px !important;Font-Family: monospace !important;'Â*
Humanity has spiked atmospheric carbon dioxide; see:

http://www.southwestclimatechange.or...re_records.jpg

Last 20 thousand years, as atmospheric carbon dioxide has risen,
the earth has warmed and Sea Levels rose 130 meters; see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_le..._geologic_time
http://www.southwestclimatechange.or...l/past-present

"eXergy" is energy that can do work.
As eXergy is consumed, entropy rachets up.

The battle for the (limited) exergy prize is between:

· The carbon dioxide breathers ( Algae and Plants ).

· The oxygen breathers ( Fungi and Animals ).

Algae and Plants are siblings.
Fungi and Animals are siblings of a different parent.

Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide won't stop rising unless·and·until
Algae and Plants beat·back Fungi and Animals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon...on centration

Society, the world around,
thinks it's everyone's God·given right
to breed as often as you want, no matter what.

When resources get low, it's time for a nice war.
As if bombs ever solved the problem.

We wouldn't treat our pets this badly;
we spay and neuter them.

http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Einstein.HTM
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/The_Cosmic_Horizon_.HTM

On 06/24/2014 06:00 PM, Snit wrote:

It is a lot more complex than this, but the basic idea is that long ago many
plants grew and absorbed massive amounts of carbon. That carbon has been,
mostly, contained in their remains ever since (though there was one massive,
natural release of it long ago - which lead to one of the great
extinctions).

Now humans are releasing this carbon back into the atmosphere and into the
oceans at a rate unseen since the evolution of man. This is likely to lead
not just to warming but to another great extinction... and will destroy our
coastal cities and alter much of the climate and ecology of the planet.

Some stick their head in the sand... but at this point there is so much good
info on this that without a reasoned counter, for which there is currently
none, to deny it is simply to chose to be ignorant. We see that in several
folks in COLA: willful ignorance. It is a shame.

The head in the sand is the amazing fantasy you just spun. CO2 is not a
major Greenhouse gas. There is ZERO evidence that it caused any
extinction. All of this is simply fiction and speculation.

You are the shame here which allows total science fiction to be
presented as "science" for the financial gain of the few.

SHAME ON YOU!

In the mean time we can all prepare to run from that 2 millimeter a year
sea rise that is going to destroy all civilization!

Hägar wrote:
"Jeff-Relf.Me" wrote in message
}...

Society, the world around,
thinks it's everyone's God·given right
to breed as often as you want, no matter what.

When resources get low, it's time for a nice war.
As if bombs ever solved the problem.

We wouldn't treat our pets this badly;
we spay and neuter them.

http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Einstein.HTM
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/The_Cosmic_Horizon_.HTM


*** We could, for a start, neuter all non contributing and
parasitic deadbeats, preferably without anesthetic and with
the aid of a rusty knife blade ... this step would greatly reduce
CO2 emissions and Oxygen consumption by the proletariat.




I know a Veterinarian's office that would fix you for only $100,....maybe
less, if I showed then a few of your posts.
They probably then, would even do it for free, as a public service.

On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 05:27:20 -0400, "Bast"
posted ):

Hägar wrote:
"Jeff-Relf.Me" wrote in message
}...

Society, the world around,
thinks it's everyone's God·given right to breed as often as you want,
no matter what.

When resources get low, it's time for a nice war.
As if bombs ever solved the problem.

We wouldn't treat our pets this badly;
we spay and neuter them.

http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Einstein.HTM
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/The_Cosmic_Horizon_.HTM


*** We could, for a start, neuter all non contributing and parasitic
deadbeats, preferably without anesthetic and with the aid of a rusty
knife blade ... this step would greatly reduce CO2 emissions and Oxygen
consumption by the proletariat.

I know a Veterinarian's office that would fix you for only
$100,....maybe less, if I showed then a few of your posts.
They probably then, would even do it for free, as a public service.

ROFL, awesome response.

--
Silver Slimer
OpenMedia & Ubuntu Supporter
www.silverlips.ca

"Silver Slimer" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 05:27:20 -0400, "Bast"
posted ):

Hägar wrote:
"Jeff-Relf.Me" wrote in message
}...

Society, the world around,
thinks it's everyone's God·given right to breed as often as you want,
no matter what.

When resources get low, it's time for a nice war.
As if bombs ever solved the problem.

We wouldn't treat our pets this badly;
we spay and neuter them.

http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Einstein.HTM
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/The_Cosmic_Horizon_.HTM


*** We could, for a start, neuter all non contributing and parasitic
deadbeats, preferably without anesthetic and with the aid of a rusty
knife blade ... this step would greatly reduce CO2 emissions and
Oxygen
consumption by the proletariat.

I know a Veterinarian's office that would fix you for only
$100,....maybe less, if I showed then a few of your posts.
They probably then, would even do it for free, as a public service.

ROFL, awesome response.

--
Silver Slimer
OpenMedia & Ubuntu Supporter
www.silverlips.ca


*** You're right, Slimey ... she/it does have some lucid moments ...

We usually can not clean up after ourselves without making the situation even worse. However, as the Sirius Oort cloud gets closer, things should really start heating up (especially when Earth gets nailed by significant items).

However, if anything our sun has been cooling back down, and therefore the only objective variable with having anything significant to offer, is that which is derived from us humans and of course that which is caused by our physically dark and paramagnetic moon which isn't exactly cooling us off.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...es-plunge.html

2013 was due to be year of the 'solar maximum'

Researchers say solar activity is at a fraction of what they expect

Conditions 'very similar' a time in 1645 when a mini ice age hit

How much raw energy per hour do you think we humans contribute?

How much all-inclusive raw carbon have all humans released thus far?

How many trillion tonnes of hydrocarbons have we consumed?

How many hundred billion tonnes of raw and processed methanes and helium have we released over the past 2000 years?

How long does the artificially released hydrocarbon forms of methane stay with Earth?

Where exactly does the helium that doesn't bind with anything actually go, once it's released?


On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:06:57 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
*
Humanity has spiked atmospheric carbon dioxide; see:

http://www.southwestclimatechange.or...re_records.jpg

Last 20 thousand years, as atmospheric carbon dioxide has risen,
the earth has warmed and Sea Levels rose 130 meters; see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_le..._geologic_time
http://www.southwestclimatechange.or...l/past-present

"eXergy" is energy that can do work.
As eXergy is consumed, entropy rachets up.

The battle for the (limited) exergy prize is between:

· The carbon dioxide breathers ( Algae and Plants ).

· The oxygen breathers ( Fungi and Animals ).

Algae and Plants are siblings.
Fungi and Animals are siblings of a different parent.

Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide won't stop rising unless·and·until
Algae and Plants beat·back Fungi and Animals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon...on centration

On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:28:07 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
On 06/24/2014 06:00 PM, Snit wrote:



It is a lot more complex than this, but the basic idea is that long ago many

plants grew and absorbed massive amounts of carbon. That carbon has been,

mostly, contained in their remains ever since (though there was one massive,

natural release of it long ago - which lead to one of the great

extinctions).



Now humans are releasing this carbon back into the atmosphere and into the

oceans at a rate unseen since the evolution of man. This is likely to lead

not just to warming but to another great extinction... and will destroy our

coastal cities and alter much of the climate and ecology of the planet.



Some stick their head in the sand... but at this point there is so much good

info on this that without a reasoned counter, for which there is currently

none, to deny it is simply to chose to be ignorant. We see that in several

folks in COLA: willful ignorance. It is a shame.



The head in the sand is the amazing fantasy you just spun. CO2 is not a

major Greenhouse gas. There is ZERO evidence that it caused any

extinction. All of this is simply fiction and speculation.



You are the shame here which allows total science fiction to be

presented as "science" for the financial gain of the few.



SHAME ON YOU!



In the mean time we can all prepare to run from that 2 millimeter a year

sea rise that is going to destroy all civilization!

Add a few too many tidal storm surges to that 2 mm/year rise, and it's not going to be very nice.

Perhaps by the end of this century we'll get to see a 25 mm/year rise in ocean levels. Still those oligarchs, Bilderbergs and Rothschilds will not have to fret, because their properties are situated much higher and they'll own most of Greenland by then.