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Old February 27th 17, 10:47 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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http://www.spacex.com/news/2017/02/2...moon-next-year

I wonder if that may have been wispered into Trump's ear and got him
interested in having EM-1 be manned?

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Old February 28th 17, 12:52 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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JF Mezei wrote:

On 2017-02-27 16:47, Rick Jones wrote:
http://www.spacex.com/news/2017/02/2...moon-next-year



The timing of Musk's announcement is most interesting.
He states Falcon9-Heavy will be second most powerful rocket after
Saturn-5. Is there an implied "at least until SLS flies" or does
Falcon-9-Heavy beat SLS ?


There's an explicitly stated "when it flies". I'm pretty sure Musk
isn't speaking for all time.


If NASA kills SLS and retasks Orion to be a ISS taxi, the savings may
allow NASA to comply with cost cutting AND still have much leftover to
increase budgets for other programmes.


But what would be the point? Orion would just be a higher priced
version of the two commercial capsules.


Musk's announcement may be designed as a catalyst to trigger the end of
SLS and possibly Orion.


I doubt he cares much about either of them, since an SLS/Orion mission
will cost about 10x what a Falcon Heavy/Dragon V2 mission will cost.

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Old February 28th 17, 04:34 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On 28/02/2017 8:47 AM, Rick Jones wrote:
http://www.spacex.com/news/2017/02/2...moon-next-year


Financed by the people who want to go, apparently. Some people
definitely have too much money.

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Old February 28th 17, 10:03 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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JF Mezei wrote:

On 2017-02-27 18:52, Fred J. McCall wrote:

I doubt he cares much about either of them, since an SLS/Orion mission
will cost about 10x what a Falcon Heavy/Dragon V2 mission will cost.


Considering what he announced for his Mars plans, it would benefit him
for NASA to kill SLS so that any Mars mission relies on SpaceX' rockets.


Nonsense. Of the four flights currently on the books for SLS through
2026, none are headed anywhere near Mars. Meanwhile, Musk is talking
about a first crewed flight of his Interplanetary Transport System to
Mars in (wait for it) 2026. And it will cost a lot less than the
billion dollars per flight that SLS will cost.


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Old February 28th 17, 10:53 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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JF Mezei wrote:

On 2017-02-28 04:03, Fred J. McCall wrote:

Nonsense. Of the four flights currently on the books for SLS through
2026, none are headed anywhere near Mars.


Yet NASA pitches SLS/Orion as a mission to Mars thing in its PR.


But no Mars mission on the schedule for at least 10 years. NASA
pitches it as all things to all people. The lesson there is don't
believe marketing videos.


So it would benefit SpaceX for NASA to stop spending on the rocket to
nowehere and instead allocate that money for a project that is done by
SpaceX.


Except that isn't how it works and nobody is stupid enough to think it
is. Kill SLS/Orion and that money mostly goes away or goes into other
NASA developments.


Who benefits from SLS/orion spending? Are those competitors to SpaceX,
and if so, it shows how SpaceX benefits if NASA kills SLS/Orion and
direct those funds towards SpaceX.


Nope. SLS/Orion isn't competitive to anything. It simply costs too
much.


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