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He's from California, so where is the ban?
Julius "starlord" wrote in message ... Calif. has become the first state to ban those wepons too. -- SIAR www.starlords.org Telescope Buyers FAQ http://home.inreach.com/starlord "Szaki" wrote in message ... Easier to get than using a green laser. My co-worker had a 50 caliber sniper rifle, paid $5K for it. That gun can take your head off clean, easy from 1000 yards. An airplane engine would be a very easy target, disabling it no time or blow the windshield of the pilots cockpit. Still perfectly legal to own, transport and to use. I'm sure he didn't buy it for hunting bambies. JS "Jon Isaacs" wrote in message ... Can I bring my 50 caliber machine gun? For those nasty mosquitoes in Florida, you know!? JS I think you will find that owning an automatic weapon of any sort without the proper credentials and paper work is likely to get you into serious trouble... jon |
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Road Kill wrote:
all true, but idiots werent bouncing them off or aircraft then... You cant expect the govt to sit still in this. Do you know that anti nuc flash goggles worn by tact pilots actually intensify the green laser wavelength? Do you know the US DOT has now ordered all pilots to report any laser activity they witness - any - whether directed at them or not. Justified or not the Govt is going active on this. Countless observatories professional and otherwise as well as clubs are responding appropriately - later, facilities elligible will be able to apply to become NO LOOK zones. Thats the way it are. Yep'per. Do you know that the DOD wants to use lasers to notify pilots that they have entered restricted air space. Peace. mice. shrimpc. zealot'c. evil doer'c. goggle'c. Republican'c. Demo'c. and wive'c'c. (revise the Bush dictionary!) Rod Mollise wrote: Oh well, the pointers are best used at public educational outreaches and not star parties. Matthew Ota Hi Matthew: I agree. You know, it's not like green lasers suddently hit the market a month ago. They've been in the hands of plenty of amateurs for the last four years. And they haven't caused much in the way of problems at any star party that I'm aware of. Most amateurs I've met at star parties are considerate of their brother and sister amateurs (or at least become considerate when reminded) so as not to raise a ruckus with those prized Jedi Lightsabers. ;-) But anybody should run their star party just the way they want to, and, as you note, green lasers are really best in an instructional setting, anyway. Shame to see rule making proceeding because of what the government _might_ think, though. ;-) Peace, Rod Mollise Author of _Choosing and Using a Schmidt Cassegrain Telescope_ Like SCTs and MCTs? Check-out sct-user, the mailing list for CAT fanciers! Goto http://members.aol.com/RMOLLISE/index.html |
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Another over-reaction.
Mij (Lifelong member of the National Green Laser Pointer Association) We need a constitutional amendment to ensure our rights to bear green laser pointers anywhere including at Star parties. My green anti-tank laser is brighter and more powerful than your puny laser pointer. :-) "Mark" wrote in message oups.com... Just another politician trying to get some cheap publicity. matt wrote: stop joking about serious matters! IF you think lasers are here to stay, think again. Or look here : http://ap.tbo.com/ap/florida/MGBHJ0KJ74E.html for the new bill proposing to sentence people for up to 5 years in prison for aiming lasers at vehicles in Florida. best regards, matt tudor |
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Road Kill wrote:
all true, but idiots werent bouncing them off or aircraft then... You cant expect the govt to sit still in this. Do you know that anti nuc flash goggles worn by tact pilots actually intensify the green laser wavelength? Hi Road Kill: Having been a member of the late, lamented Stategic Air Command, I probably know a good deal more about nuclear combat than you would ever _want_ to know. ;-) Anyhoo... The fact that some dimwit could point a laser at a pilot does not mean green lasers should be off limits for the rest of us. How about red lasers? How about .45 ACPs? How about r/c aircraft? How about too bright flashlights?...the list of things that could be _potentially_ harmful or distracting to pilots goes on and on...:-) Peace, Rod Mollise Author of _Choosing and Using a Schmidt Cassegrain Telescope_ Like SCTs and MCTs? Check-out sct-user, the mailing list for CAT fanciers! Goto http://members.aol.com/RMOLLISE/index.html |
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As of the first of the year, it is now unlawfull to buy, sell, even have a
high power 50cal gun. It's been all over the news about it. -- SIAR www.starlords.org Telescope Buyers FAQ http://home.inreach.com/starlord "Szaki" wrote in message ... He's from California, so where is the ban? Julius "starlord" wrote in message ... Calif. has become the first state to ban those wepons too. -- SIAR www.starlords.org Telescope Buyers FAQ http://home.inreach.com/starlord "Szaki" wrote in message ... Easier to get than using a green laser. My co-worker had a 50 caliber sniper rifle, paid $5K for it. That gun can take your head off clean, easy from 1000 yards. An airplane engine would be a very easy target, disabling it no time or blow the windshield of the pilots cockpit. Still perfectly legal to own, transport and to use. I'm sure he didn't buy it for hunting bambies. JS "Jon Isaacs" wrote in message ... Can I bring my 50 caliber machine gun? For those nasty mosquitoes in Florida, you know!? JS I think you will find that owning an automatic weapon of any sort without the proper credentials and paper work is likely to get you into serious trouble... jon |
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You would be correct especially if its true the US DOT and FAA issued
a new guildine last week telling all pilots to "report any sighting of a laser to flight controllers immediately, whether directed at an aircraft or not" - period! Especially in the vicinity of airports. The DOD evidently is issuing new rulings of its own with the FAA effective for all military instalations and their surroundings. So! Lasers are not toys. There are transportation and air safety issues at stake, whether (some) amateur astronomy hobbeists like it or not. Sure, a lot of amateurs are "****ed off", to quote one club president. If the amateur community had taken a moment to be proactive in the first place, this might not be happening as it is. The amateur community and related media were busy elsewhere. Good luck - Charlie Hubbard wrote: On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:02:57 -0800, Wayne Howell wrote: David wrote: JANUARY 2005 GREEN LASER BAN Due to recent national events, it has become necessary for the Southern Cross Astronomical Society of Miami, Florida, to completely ban the use of green laser pointers at SCAS sponsored events. EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY (January 2005) any use of such devices (hand-held or attached) at SCAS Star Parties, the Winter Star Party, or any other SCAS public event SHALL BE PROHIBITED. Violation of this restriction will result in the immediate expulsion of the offending party from the SCAS event. -Tim Khan, SCAS V. President/Director of the Winter Star Party A superb example of PC over-reaction! One has to wonder (with tongue firmly placed in cheek) what will be next? Really? I have no idea where the truth lies but my first thought was the ban was probably put in place for fear of legal trouble or insurance problems. |
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grow up Mr. Immature. Guys like you give amateur astronomy a black eye.
Impact9 wrote: Are these SCAS events held on private or leased lands? Otherwise all you could do is ask the person to leave. Otherwise you have no legal rights to force them to leave or tell them what to do. On private land you could ask them to leave then call the cops who would roll in with the lights blazing. Maybe they will be nice and only use the red lights. HA! Course I would play the ******* and just leave the land then blind you from the property line with my GLP. hA! |
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Die and learn.
-Rich |
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He bought it 3 years ago, so he's going to turn in he's $5000 gun? BS!
Julius "starlord" wrote in message ... As of the first of the year, it is now unlawfull to buy, sell, even have a high power 50cal gun. It's been all over the news about it. -- SIAR www.starlords.org Telescope Buyers FAQ http://home.inreach.com/starlord "Szaki" wrote in message ... He's from California, so where is the ban? Julius "starlord" wrote in message ... Calif. has become the first state to ban those wepons too. -- SIAR www.starlords.org Telescope Buyers FAQ http://home.inreach.com/starlord "Szaki" wrote in message ... Easier to get than using a green laser. My co-worker had a 50 caliber sniper rifle, paid $5K for it. That gun can take your head off clean, easy from 1000 yards. An airplane engine would be a very easy target, disabling it no time or blow the windshield of the pilots cockpit. Still perfectly legal to own, transport and to use. I'm sure he didn't buy it for hunting bambies. JS "Jon Isaacs" wrote in message ... Can I bring my 50 caliber machine gun? For those nasty mosquitoes in Florida, you know!? JS I think you will find that owning an automatic weapon of any sort without the proper credentials and paper work is likely to get you into serious trouble... jon |
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