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Old February 8th 04, 12:04 PM
Tony Flanders
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"N9WOS" wrote in message ...

I live 20 miles from the nearest large city.
That being Bloomington Indiana .

...
I have lived here all my life, and the only
real neighbors I have is the gray wolves and coyotes.


There are no wolves in the U.S. east of the Mississippi. People
often mistake eastern coyotes for wolves; they are *much* bigger
than western coyotes, although otherwise quite similar.

I have never heard of a coyote attacking an adult human being
anywhere anytime. In my own state (Massachussetts) there have
been two attacks on children in recent years, neither serious,
both during the day in densely populated suburbs. However,
coyotes are a serious threat to dogs and cats.

There are tons of coyotes around my country home, where I observe
frequently, but it has never so much as occurred to me to worry
about them, day or night. I do worry a little about the bears,
which are also pretty common around there. The last coyote I saw
(a couple of weeks ago) was right here in Cambridge, MA, one of
the most densely populated cities in the U.S.

- Tony Flanders
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Old February 8th 04, 04:47 PM
Bill Meyers
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Hi, Tony,
Yikes! A coyote in Cambridge! I know the town well, could you give me an exact location, such as an address or street
intersection, where you saw the coyote? Thanks.
Hope you are enjoying your new job. We all envy you.
Ciao,
Bill Meyers

Tony Flanders wrote:

"N9WOS" wrote in message ...

I live 20 miles from the nearest large city.
That being Bloomington Indiana .

...
I have lived here all my life, and the only
real neighbors I have is the gray wolves and coyotes.


There are no wolves in the U.S. east of the Mississippi. People
often mistake eastern coyotes for wolves; they are *much* bigger
than western coyotes, although otherwise quite similar.

I have never heard of a coyote attacking an adult human being
anywhere anytime. In my own state (Massachussetts) there have
been two attacks on children in recent years, neither serious,
both during the day in densely populated suburbs. However,
coyotes are a serious threat to dogs and cats.

There are tons of coyotes around my country home, where I observe
frequently, but it has never so much as occurred to me to worry
about them, day or night. I do worry a little about the bears,
which are also pretty common around there. The last coyote I saw
(a couple of weeks ago) was right here in Cambridge, MA, one of
the most densely populated cities in the U.S.

- Tony Flanders


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Old February 8th 04, 04:47 PM
Bill Meyers
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Hi, Tony,
Yikes! A coyote in Cambridge! I know the town well, could you give me an exact location, such as an address or street
intersection, where you saw the coyote? Thanks.
Hope you are enjoying your new job. We all envy you.
Ciao,
Bill Meyers

Tony Flanders wrote:

"N9WOS" wrote in message ...

I live 20 miles from the nearest large city.
That being Bloomington Indiana .

...
I have lived here all my life, and the only
real neighbors I have is the gray wolves and coyotes.


There are no wolves in the U.S. east of the Mississippi. People
often mistake eastern coyotes for wolves; they are *much* bigger
than western coyotes, although otherwise quite similar.

I have never heard of a coyote attacking an adult human being
anywhere anytime. In my own state (Massachussetts) there have
been two attacks on children in recent years, neither serious,
both during the day in densely populated suburbs. However,
coyotes are a serious threat to dogs and cats.

There are tons of coyotes around my country home, where I observe
frequently, but it has never so much as occurred to me to worry
about them, day or night. I do worry a little about the bears,
which are also pretty common around there. The last coyote I saw
(a couple of weeks ago) was right here in Cambridge, MA, one of
the most densely populated cities in the U.S.

- Tony Flanders


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Old February 8th 04, 04:59 PM
N9WOS
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I have lived here all my life, and the only
real neighbors I have is the gray wolves and coyotes.


There are no wolves in the U.S. east of the Mississippi. People
often mistake eastern coyotes for wolves; they are *much* bigger
than western coyotes, although otherwise quite similar.



quote
.................................................. ............
By: U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
10/14/04


The body of a gray wolf, tagged as a pup in Wisconsin, was discovered in a
soybean field in east central Indiana in June 2003.
In 2001, a Missouri man fired at what he thought was a coyote, and later
discovered the animal was a gray wolf that had journeyed south from the
Upper Peninsula of Michigan. The body of a gray wolf, tagged as a pup in
Wisconsin, was discovered in a soybean field in east central Indiana in June
2003. A gray wolf that apparently wandered hundreds of miles from its
original home pack somewhere to the north was found dead in central Illinois
in 2002. Are wolves making a comeback in these states?
Gray wolves are indeed recovering in the western Great Lakes, according to
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service biologist Ron Refsnider. But he says gray
wolves are not likely to establish populations south of Wisconsin and
Michigan.

"What we are probably seeing in Indiana, Illinois and Missouri are young
wolves dispersing from packs in the north," Refsnider explained.
"Occasionally, these wolves travel hundreds of miles but do not survive to
establish packs."

.................................................. ..............

I can tell them, that one wasn't the only one!

The one I seen is large!!!!

His head comes up to chest height!

And it has gray fur.

And it isn't a coyote
At least not like any coyote I seen.


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Old February 8th 04, 04:59 PM
N9WOS
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I have lived here all my life, and the only
real neighbors I have is the gray wolves and coyotes.


There are no wolves in the U.S. east of the Mississippi. People
often mistake eastern coyotes for wolves; they are *much* bigger
than western coyotes, although otherwise quite similar.



quote
.................................................. ............
By: U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
10/14/04


The body of a gray wolf, tagged as a pup in Wisconsin, was discovered in a
soybean field in east central Indiana in June 2003.
In 2001, a Missouri man fired at what he thought was a coyote, and later
discovered the animal was a gray wolf that had journeyed south from the
Upper Peninsula of Michigan. The body of a gray wolf, tagged as a pup in
Wisconsin, was discovered in a soybean field in east central Indiana in June
2003. A gray wolf that apparently wandered hundreds of miles from its
original home pack somewhere to the north was found dead in central Illinois
in 2002. Are wolves making a comeback in these states?
Gray wolves are indeed recovering in the western Great Lakes, according to
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service biologist Ron Refsnider. But he says gray
wolves are not likely to establish populations south of Wisconsin and
Michigan.

"What we are probably seeing in Indiana, Illinois and Missouri are young
wolves dispersing from packs in the north," Refsnider explained.
"Occasionally, these wolves travel hundreds of miles but do not survive to
establish packs."

.................................................. ..............

I can tell them, that one wasn't the only one!

The one I seen is large!!!!

His head comes up to chest height!

And it has gray fur.

And it isn't a coyote
At least not like any coyote I seen.


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Old February 8th 04, 11:15 PM
drdrb
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"N9WOS" wrote in message ...
I have lived here all my life, and the only
real neighbors I have is the gray wolves and coyotes.


There are no wolves in the U.S. east of the Mississippi. People
often mistake eastern coyotes for wolves; they are *much* bigger
than western coyotes, although otherwise quite similar.



quote
.................................................. ...........
By: U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
10/14/04


The body of a gray wolf, tagged as a pup in Wisconsin, was discovered in a
soybean field in east central Indiana in June 2003.



This is obviously a mistake. Wolves are very provincial and would
never dream of heading east across the Mississippi. How did you access
the 10/14/04 U.S.F.W.S. report?
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Old February 8th 04, 11:15 PM
drdrb
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"N9WOS" wrote in message ...
I have lived here all my life, and the only
real neighbors I have is the gray wolves and coyotes.


There are no wolves in the U.S. east of the Mississippi. People
often mistake eastern coyotes for wolves; they are *much* bigger
than western coyotes, although otherwise quite similar.



quote
.................................................. ...........
By: U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
10/14/04


The body of a gray wolf, tagged as a pup in Wisconsin, was discovered in a
soybean field in east central Indiana in June 2003.



This is obviously a mistake. Wolves are very provincial and would
never dream of heading east across the Mississippi. How did you access
the 10/14/04 U.S.F.W.S. report?
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Old February 9th 04, 04:21 AM
N9WOS
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quote
.................................................. ...........
By: U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
10/14/04
The body of a gray wolf, tagged as a pup in Wisconsin, was discovered in

a
soybean field in east central Indiana in June 2003.


This is obviously a mistake. Wolves are very provincial and would
never dream of heading east across the Mississippi. How did you access
the 10/14/04 U.S.F.W.S. report?


http://midwest.fws.gov/News/Release03-89.html

http://lists.in.gov/archives/wildbul...st/000018.html

http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/caer/...3/070203co.htm

http://www.greatlakesdirectory.org/m...reat_lakes.htm

http://timberwolfinformation.org/inf...ws.cfm?ID=1016

(on and on............)


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Old February 9th 04, 04:21 AM
N9WOS
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quote
.................................................. ...........
By: U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
10/14/04
The body of a gray wolf, tagged as a pup in Wisconsin, was discovered in

a
soybean field in east central Indiana in June 2003.


This is obviously a mistake. Wolves are very provincial and would
never dream of heading east across the Mississippi. How did you access
the 10/14/04 U.S.F.W.S. report?


http://midwest.fws.gov/News/Release03-89.html

http://lists.in.gov/archives/wildbul...st/000018.html

http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/caer/...3/070203co.htm

http://www.greatlakesdirectory.org/m...reat_lakes.htm

http://timberwolfinformation.org/inf...ws.cfm?ID=1016

(on and on............)


  #20  
Old February 9th 04, 10:49 AM
Tony Flanders
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"N9WOS" wrote in message ...

"What we are probably seeing in Indiana, Illinois and Missouri are young
wolves dispersing from packs in the north," Refsnider explained.
"Occasionally, these wolves travel hundreds of miles but do not survive to
establish packs."

.................................................. .............

I can tell them, that one wasn't the only one!

The one I seen is large!!!!

His head comes up to chest height!


Yow, that's certainly no coyote! I wouldn't place much stock in
fur color, but chest-high is huge for a wolf, let alone a coyote.
Congratulations on a rare sighting!

I still wouldn't worry about them, though. Wolf attacks are more
common than coyote attacks, but still exceedingly rare -- in North
America, anyway.

- Tony Flanders
 




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