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Old November 21st 05, 06:05 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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' Intelligent Design is not science, and has no place in science
lessons, according to the Vatican's chief astronomer, the Rev. George
Coyne. According to the French news agency, ANSA, Father Coyne was
speaking informally at a conference in Florence when he said that
intelligent design "isn't science, even though it pretends to be."

He argued that if it is to be taught in schools, then it should be
taught in religion or cultural history classes, but that it should not
be on the science curriculum.

Proponents of intelligent design argue that life on Earth is just too
complex to have arisen without the aid of some kind of designer. ID's
critics point out that its main tenets are highly unscientific and
untestable, and say that it is merely creationism in disguise.

Father Coyne has consistently argued against regarding intelligent
design as scientific. In June he wrote in Catholic magazine The Tablet:
....'

See http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11...n_not_science/

Reminds me of the problems that Galileo had.

'Vatican Astronomer, Certified'. Hmmm ...

RL

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Old November 21st 05, 07:19 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Into the crapper you go ....
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Raving Loonie wrote:
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' Intelligent Design is not science, and has no place in science
lessons, according to the Vatican's chief astronomer, the Rev. George
Coyne. According to the French news agency, ANSA, Father Coyne was
speaking informally at a conference in Florence when he said that
intelligent design "isn't science, even though it pretends to be."

He argued that if it is to be taught in schools, then it should be
taught in religion or cultural history classes, but that it should not
be on the science curriculum.

Proponents of intelligent design argue that life on Earth is just too
complex to have arisen without the aid of some kind of designer. ID's
critics point out that its main tenets are highly unscientific and
untestable, and say that it is merely creationism in disguise.

Father Coyne has consistently argued against regarding intelligent
design as scientific. In June he wrote in Catholic magazine The Tablet:
...'

See http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11...n_not_science/

Reminds me of the problems that Galileo had.

'Vatican Astronomer, Certified'. Hmmm ...

RL



The Vatican has certainly come a l o n g w a y since they
threatened Galileo with torture for challenging the Earth centered view
of the universe!

I wonder at what point in history the Vatican Astronomer was able to
stop simply trying to prove that Ptolemy was right, and could start
reporting what he really saw?

Double-A

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Old November 22nd 05, 01:45 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:47:29 -0800, Double-A wrote:


Raving Loonie wrote:
Bye, bye ~~~~ { { { Warhol wrote: } } } ~~~ [ the Warhole
crapper ]

' Intelligent Design is not science, and has no place in science
lessons, according to the Vatican's chief astronomer, the Rev. George
Coyne. According to the French news agency, ANSA, Father Coyne was
speaking informally at a conference in Florence when he said that
intelligent design "isn't science, even though it pretends to be."

He argued that if it is to be taught in schools, then it should be
taught in religion or cultural history classes, but that it should not
be on the science curriculum.

Proponents of intelligent design argue that life on Earth is just too
complex to have arisen without the aid of some kind of designer. ID's
critics point out that its main tenets are highly unscientific and
untestable, and say that it is merely creationism in disguise.

Father Coyne has consistently argued against regarding intelligent
design as scientific. In June he wrote in Catholic magazine The Tablet:
...'

See http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11...n_not_science/

Reminds me of the problems that Galileo had.

'Vatican Astronomer, Certified'. Hmmm ...

RL



The Vatican has certainly come a l o n g w a y since they
threatened Galileo with torture for challenging the Earth centered view of
the universe!

I wonder at what point in history the Vatican Astronomer was able to stop
simply trying to prove that Ptolemy was right, and could start reporting
what he really saw?

Double-A


Maybe you missed something but already Copernicus used the heliocentric
method in his calculations. When asked about it by the Church he simply
replied "it simplyfies calculations", so they didn't bother him any
further.

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Old November 22nd 05, 06:03 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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As I've said already: George Coyne is very intelligent. He's also a
nice guy!

Saul Levy


On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 02:45:30 +0100, "Dr. Flonkenstein"
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:47:29 -0800, Double-A wrote:


Raving Loonie wrote:
Bye, bye ~~~~ { { { Warhol wrote: } } } ~~~ [ the Warhole
crapper ]

' Intelligent Design is not science, and has no place in science
lessons, according to the Vatican's chief astronomer, the Rev. George
Coyne. According to the French news agency, ANSA, Father Coyne was
speaking informally at a conference in Florence when he said that
intelligent design "isn't science, even though it pretends to be."

He argued that if it is to be taught in schools, then it should be
taught in religion or cultural history classes, but that it should not
be on the science curriculum.

Proponents of intelligent design argue that life on Earth is just too
complex to have arisen without the aid of some kind of designer. ID's
critics point out that its main tenets are highly unscientific and
untestable, and say that it is merely creationism in disguise.

Father Coyne has consistently argued against regarding intelligent
design as scientific. In June he wrote in Catholic magazine The Tablet:
...'

See http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11...n_not_science/

Reminds me of the problems that Galileo had.

'Vatican Astronomer, Certified'. Hmmm ...

RL



The Vatican has certainly come a l o n g w a y since they
threatened Galileo with torture for challenging the Earth centered view of
the universe!

I wonder at what point in history the Vatican Astronomer was able to stop
simply trying to prove that Ptolemy was right, and could start reporting
what he really saw?

Double-A


Maybe you missed something but already Copernicus used the heliocentric
method in his calculations. When asked about it by the Church he simply
replied "it simplyfies calculations", so they didn't bother him any
further.

 




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