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Old January 16th 17, 09:27 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Quadibloc
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I came across, while looking for books about Astronomy on the Internet Archive, a
book with this intriguing title...

https://archive.org/details/KingsDet...ardHickson1922

Kings Dethroned

A history of the evolution of astronomy from the time of the Roman Empire up to the present day; showing it to be an amazing series of blunders founded upon an error made in the second century B.C..

From 1922, by Gerrard Hickson.

Apparently, though, it has little in common with the concerns of a frequent poster in this newsgroup; instead it may be - but then I'm not sure yet - a defense of the theory of the Earth being flat.

John Savard
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Old January 16th 17, 11:21 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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I found another book, with an even more relevant title...

https://archive.org/details/an_inves...entific_201612

but it also turns out to be by a flat earther.

John Savard
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Old January 17th 17, 08:29 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, 16 January 2017 23:21:05 UTC+1, Quadibloc wrote:
I found another book, with an even more relevant title...

https://archive.org/details/an_inves...entific_201612

but it also turns out to be by a flat earther.

John Savard


I have an absolute test of Flat Earthers beliefs.
One stands on a cliff edge and carefully notes the appearance of a ship on the horizon.
Then one jumps while taking careful, handwritten notes of the constantly changing appearance of the ship as one descends.
Later publication of the results can be made by arrangement with the undertaker.
Or, if one is not allergic to modern technology:
One can use a camera drone to achieve much the same result but at greater, personal expense.
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Old January 17th 17, 03:20 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On 1/17/2017 1:29 AM, Chris.B wrote:
On Monday, 16 January 2017 23:21:05 UTC+1, Quadibloc wrote:
I found another book, with an even more relevant title...

https://archive.org/details/an_inves...entific_201612

but it also turns out to be by a flat earther.

John Savard


I have an absolute test of Flat Earthers beliefs.
One stands on a cliff edge and carefully notes the appearance of a ship on the horizon.
Then one jumps while taking careful, handwritten notes of the constantly changing appearance of the ship as one descends.
Later publication of the results can be made by arrangement with the undertaker.
Or, if one is not allergic to modern technology:
One can use a camera drone to achieve much the same result but at greater, personal expense.

Maybe not. If you include the cost of the funeral the
cost of jumping off the cliff will probably exceed the
cost of the drone.

Bill
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Old January 17th 17, 06:53 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Quadibloc
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On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 7:20:36 AM UTC-7, Bill Gill wrote:
On 1/17/2017 1:29 AM, Chris.B wrote:


One can use a camera drone to achieve much the same result but at greater, personal expense.


Maybe not. If you include the cost of the funeral the
cost of jumping off the cliff will probably exceed the
cost of the drone.


Ah, but the funeral will be paid for by someone else, so his phrasing of
"greater personal expense" would remain correct if one didn't count the loss of
one's own life as the greatest expense.

So you do have to exit from the joke to contradict him.

And exiting from the joke makes sense, because if one thinks the life of a
flat-earther isn't worth much... well, that's to the people around him, not to
himself... and _that_ directly contradicts the phrase "personal expense"!

John Savard
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Old January 17th 17, 10:28 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Quadibloc wrote:
On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 7:20:36 AM UTC-7, Bill Gill wrote:
On 1/17/2017 1:29 AM, Chris.B wrote:


One can use a camera drone to achieve much the same result but at
greater, personal expense.


Maybe not. If you include the cost of the funeral the
cost of jumping off the cliff will probably exceed the
cost of the drone.


Ah, but the funeral will be paid for by someone else, so his phrasing of
"greater personal expense" would remain correct if one didn't count the loss of
one's own life as the greatest expense.

So you do have to exit from the joke to contradict him.

And exiting from the joke makes sense, because if one thinks the life of a
flat-earther isn't worth much... well, that's to the people around him, not to
himself... and _that_ directly contradicts the phrase "personal expense"!

John Savard


Most people pay for their own funeral, at least by proxy, since their heirs
have to pay it. In this case there would be a good chance of a Darwin Award
nomination.


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Old January 17th 17, 10:31 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Mike Collins wrote:
Quadibloc wrote:
On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 7:20:36 AM UTC-7, Bill Gill wrote:
On 1/17/2017 1:29 AM, Chris.B wrote:


One can use a camera drone to achieve much the same result but at
greater, personal expense.


Maybe not. If you include the cost of the funeral the
cost of jumping off the cliff will probably exceed the
cost of the drone.


Ah, but the funeral will be paid for by someone else, so his phrasing of
"greater personal expense" would remain correct if one didn't count the loss of
one's own life as the greatest expense.

So you do have to exit from the joke to contradict him.

And exiting from the joke makes sense, because if one thinks the life of a
flat-earther isn't worth much... well, that's to the people around him, not to
himself... and _that_ directly contradicts the phrase "personal expense"!

John Savard


Most people pay for their own funeral, at least by proxy, since their heirs
have to pay it. In this case there would be a good chance of a Darwin Award
nomination.



They could drink from these at the wake.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coffee-Mug-D.../172488624603?

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Old January 18th 17, 07:38 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 16:32:46 UTC-5, Mike Collins wrote:
Mike Collins wrote:
Quadibloc wrote:
On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 7:20:36 AM UTC-7, Bill Gill wrote:
On 1/17/2017 1:29 AM, Chris.B wrote:

One can use a camera drone to achieve much the same result but at
greater, personal expense.

Maybe not. If you include the cost of the funeral the
cost of jumping off the cliff will probably exceed the
cost of the drone.

Ah, but the funeral will be paid for by someone else, so his phrasing of
"greater personal expense" would remain correct if one didn't count the loss of
one's own life as the greatest expense.

So you do have to exit from the joke to contradict him.

And exiting from the joke makes sense, because if one thinks the life of a
flat-earther isn't worth much... well, that's to the people around him, not to
himself... and _that_ directly contradicts the phrase "personal expense"!

John Savard


Most people pay for their own funeral, at least by proxy, since their heirs
have to pay it. In this case there would be a good chance of a Darwin Award
nomination.



They could drink from these at the wake.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coffee-Mug-D.../172488624603?


Darwin was thwarted by misguided socialism. We pay the price, more so every day.
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Old January 18th 17, 11:12 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Quadibloc
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On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 11:38:40 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:

Darwin was thwarted by misguided socialism. We pay the price, more so every day.


No, ending the dominion of death over our fellow human beings is not misguided,
it is demanded by basic ethics.

Recognizing, however, that even commendable actions have negative consequences,
against which precautions need to be taken, is also necessary.

We have over-reacted to the horrors of Nazism, and that has given eugenics a
bad name. But reproduction is a privilege, not a right; that is why we are able
to punish rape as a crime.

John Savard
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Old January 18th 17, 02:13 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Mike Collins[_4_]
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RichA wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 16:32:46 UTC-5, Mike Collins wrote:
Mike Collins wrote:
Quadibloc wrote:
On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 7:20:36 AM UTC-7, Bill Gill wrote:
On 1/17/2017 1:29 AM, Chris.B wrote:

One can use a camera drone to achieve much the same result but at
greater, personal expense.

Maybe not. If you include the cost of the funeral the
cost of jumping off the cliff will probably exceed the
cost of the drone.

Ah, but the funeral will be paid for by someone else, so his phrasing of
"greater personal expense" would remain correct if one didn't count the loss of
one's own life as the greatest expense.

So you do have to exit from the joke to contradict him.

And exiting from the joke makes sense, because if one thinks the life of a
flat-earther isn't worth much... well, that's to the people around him, not to
himself... and _that_ directly contradicts the phrase "personal expense"!

John Savard


Most people pay for their own funeral, at least by proxy, since their heirs
have to pay it. In this case there would be a good chance of a Darwin Award
nomination.



They could drink from these at the wake.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coffee-Mug-D.../172488624603?


Darwin was thwarted by misguided socialism. We pay the price, more so every day.


Please explain in detail.


 




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