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Old June 29th 04, 10:24 PM
Pat Flannery
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Alex R. Blackwell wrote:


Sigh. For the URL-challenged, there is a big "Read it online - FREE"
link in the upper left corner: http://www.nap.edu/books/0309090504/html/

As one will see, The *entire* book is online. The only drawback is
that one has to scroll page by page, but there are ways around this ;-)



Well, that's nice...we've just done our best to eliminate any sales
royalty payments that Mr. Wolverton was going to get on his book within
24 hours of him telling us about it...I'm sure he thanks us deeply.
Any new books you'd like to "share" with us, Mr. Oberg?

Pat

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Old June 29th 04, 10:52 PM
Alex R. Blackwell
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Pat Flannery wrote:

Well, that's nice...we've just done our best to eliminate any sales
royalty payments that Mr. Wolverton was going to get on his book within
24 hours of him telling us about it...I'm sure he thanks us deeply.


Well, he should "thank" the National Academies Press, who put the book
online.

And, by the way, you're welcome.

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University of Hawaii

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Old June 29th 04, 11:45 PM
OM
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:52:05 -1000, "Alex R. Blackwell"
wrote:

Pat Flannery wrote:

Well, that's nice...we've just done our best to eliminate any sales
royalty payments that Mr. Wolverton was going to get on his book within
24 hours of him telling us about it...I'm sure he thanks us deeply.


Well, he should "thank" the National Academies Press, who put the book
online.


....Which is why I intend to buy the damn thing instead of pirating it
like I do other books. When it comes to space history, I make the
wallet sacrificial rites, which is why I paid a C-note for Andy's
photo-enhanced reissue instead of looking in the bargain bins and
trying to do a Mrs. Beady impression.

OM

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Old June 30th 04, 01:43 AM
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OM wrote:
...Which is why I intend to buy the damn thing instead of pirating it
like I do other books. When it comes to space history, I make the
wallet sacrificial rites, which is why I paid a C-note for Andy's
photo-enhanced reissue instead of looking in the bargain bins and
trying to do a Mrs. Beady impression.

OM


Hey I went to that website, downloaded all the chapters and rolled them
up into a PDF. Anyone want a copy?

(Note for the humor impaird: I've actually done no such thing.)
(Note for leechers: Don't ask me for a copy. See prev. note.)

I agree 100%. If we want more good quality books like this it doesn't
hurt to see that the authors get something in return for their time and
effort.

Besides, I haven't seen an ebook yet that is comfortable to read while
in bed or, ... ummmm, in the Reading Room.

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bp
Proud Member of the Human O-Ring Society Since 2003
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Old June 30th 04, 01:58 AM
Pat Flannery
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Alex R. Blackwell wrote:


Well, he should "thank" the National Academies Press, who put the book
online.

And, by the way, you're welcome.



I wasn't trying to be snippy- but if every time somebody writes a book-
and it shows up on the web so fast that they lose most of their sales
because people can just download it free of charge- they aren't going to
have any real incentive to write it in the first place...so lots of
interesting books will simply never get written; because they cover some
aspect of history (such as the Pioneer 10 and 11 missions) that has a
target audience that is pretty small to begin with by publishing
terms...would you like to work hundreds, if not thousands, of hours to
do the research that results in a book on a very technically
interesting- but fairly obscure- topic, and then make a profit of a
hundred bucks or so on the few copies you sold, because everyone else
just downloaded it free of charge?
Hell, no!
_You_ are going to write a profusely illustrated book on the shocking
mating habits and exotic sexual techniques of the Bonobo Chimpanzees of
the Congo:
http://drake.marin.k12.ca.us/stuwork...nobo%20sex.jpg
http://perso.club-internet.fr/victor...bonobo-sex.jpg
http://www.rhetorik.ch/Aktuell/1august2002/bonobo18.jpg
http://www.rhetorik.ch/Aktuell/1august2002/bonobo16.jpg
_Then_ you're going to get Jackie Collins to write a truly slutty
introduction to that book, and title it something that those prigs over
at the National Academies Press won't _dare_ put up on their website-
like "Those ****ing Bonobos" for instance- sell a million copies of the
damn thing with a $5.00 royalty to you per copy, and retire.
In fact, I'm digging out my pith helmet and digital camera, readying
some Viagra-impregnated bananas, and heading for the depths of the Congo
tomorrow at sunrise.
Science demands it...as does my addiction to champagne. :-P

Flanzan- Lord Of The ****ing Apes

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Old June 30th 04, 02:02 AM
OM
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 19:58:42 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote:

_You_ are going to write a profusely illustrated book on the shocking
mating habits and exotic sexual techniques of the Bonobo Chimpanzees of
the Congo:


....Please, no. You'll clue the all the little ******* Maxsons in on
how to breed.

OM

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Old June 30th 04, 02:07 AM
Alex R. Blackwell
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Pat Flannery wrote:

I wasn't trying to be snippy- but if every time somebody writes a book-
and it shows up on the web so fast that they lose most of their sales
because people can just download it free of charge- they aren't going to
have any real incentive to write it in the first place...


So I take it you also don't read the online editions of The New York
Times or The Washington Post because of fear the publishers might have
no "real incentive to write it in the first place"?

In any event, do you really believe the publisher(s) of Wolverton's book
are not aware NAP placed it online for free? And maybe they factored
that into the price of the hardcopy edition as well?

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University of Hawaii

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Old June 30th 04, 02:10 AM
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"OM" om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 19:58:42 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote:

_You_ are going to write a profusely illustrated book on the shocking
mating habits and exotic sexual techniques of the Bonobo Chimpanzees of
the Congo:


...Please, no. You'll clue the all the little ******* Maxsons in on
how to breed.

OM


Bob,

I served my country and now I serve my community. Why don't you stop harassing me?

Do you harass all of those who risk their lives to defend the very freedom of speech
you abuse? You are a pathetic piece of camel dung.

I don't have any affiliations with NASA, did not write any books and just want to be left alone.

/Begin canned response:

Bob Mosely III of www.io.com has been harassing me since the year 2000.

Next years will be 5 years. It all started here.

http://www.google.com/groups?as_oq=R...s=om&lr=&hl=en

Research anything "OM" said about me due to my complaint about "RK."
At some point everyone was involved in making a movie script about coming to my house
including James Oberg and some NASA employees.

Richard B Katz schemed behind my back after being told "at his day job" not to.
He is still in private emails with others that I have been recently made aware of
Apollo 1. He seems to have *publicly* backed off of me though, but not Bob aka OM.

I have numerous emails given to me from RK to another where he was instructing someone
else to antagonize me. Katz works for NASA. NASA has investigated me, called my
local law enforcement and checked me out. They even called my house and woke me up.
Apparently I am clear to their Investigators. It's just OM now. Why?

Dwayne Allen Day was on the Gehman committee. He too has backed off me. Just OM..

It's a disturbing background of this group. This is how they attack people when you defend yourself.

Some here find it "amusing", I don't. To understand one needs to read the depth of the
level they went to when harassing me. From time to time I will add more specific links.


P. Maxson Investigator/Agent Sacramento, CA. 95814 City, County, State, Federal references.

P.S. Those who do not like this approach please filter this handle, it will not change.
My goal is to stop this seemingly unstable person from trashing my family name.
If you filter me you won't have to read this.


/END


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Old June 30th 04, 02:10 AM
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On 2004-06-29, Alex R. Blackwell wrote:
OM wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:55:28 -1000, "Alex R. Blackwell"
wrote:

Read it online free at http://www.nap.edu/catalog/10739.html



...It's not the whole book, just a sample chapter.


Sigh. For the URL-challenged, there is a big "Read it online - FREE"
link in the upper left corner: http://www.nap.edu/books/0309090504/html/

As one will see, The *entire* book is online. The only drawback is that
one has to scroll page by page, but there are ways around this ;-)


There's a dump of OCR text at the end of each chapter...

....which means I don't feel too guily lifting the following anecdote
from it:

"A more whimsical acknowledgment of the Pioneer 10 mission arrived in
the Ames Public Affairs Office shortly after the encounter. It was a
letter from a Commander J. P. Dunning of the Royal Navy, captain of Her
Majesty's Ship Jupiter. "I was more than a little surprised, on 3rd
December, to read in the Newspapers that something called Pioneer X was
hoping, that night, to navigate extremely close to us in Jupiter," wrote
the commander."This additional collision hazard during our crossing of
the already tanker-crowded Oman Sea occasioned me sufficient anxiety for
me to instruct my Officers of the Watch to call me should Pioneer
approach to within 81,000 miles." Commander Dunning included information
and photos of the "life species on board": British sailors in full naval
uniform."

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-Andrew Gray

 




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