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Dependence of the speed of light on the speed of the source.
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 02:07:57 GMT, "Minor Crank"
wrote: "Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message rate when lifted into orbit, and thus is not in accordance with observation. General relativity has passed all critical tests made of it to date. So has Wilsonian mechanics. Crank, do you really think a maths theory can affect physical attributes? The orbiting clocks are known to have changed their rates. If different clocks change by different amounts then that proves conclusively that GR is wrong. And YOUR theory has been CONCLUSIVELY falsified. Crank, TIME doesn't change in gravity gradients. Clocks do. You can see it happening in the GPS. Minor Crank Henri Wilson. See my animations at: http://www.users.bigpond.com/HeWn/index.htm |
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Dependence of the speed of light on the speed of the source.
"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message
... Crank, TIME doesn't change in gravity gradients. Clocks do. You can see it happening in the GPS. YOUR theory predicts that cesium beam clocks and rubidium glass cell oscillators should differ in their behavior when lifted into orbit. What is found is that exactly the SAME correction (which corresponds to the GR prediction) must be applied to them both, therefore YOUR theory is wrong, disproven, false, and stupid. Minor Crank |
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Dependence of the speed of light on the speed of the source.
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:27:45 GMT, "Minor Crank"
wrote: "Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message .. . Crank, TIME doesn't change in gravity gradients. Clocks do. You can see it happening in the GPS. YOUR theory predicts that cesium beam clocks and rubidium glass cell oscillators should differ in their behavior when lifted into orbit. What is found is that exactly the SAME correction (which corresponds to the GR prediction) must be applied to them both, therefore YOUR theory is wrong, disproven, false, and stupid. Do you really believe that Crank? Has anyone rigorously measured the rates of different clocks in free fall? Minor Crank Henri Wilson. See my animations at: http://www.users.bigpond.com/HeWn/index.htm |
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Henri Wilson wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:27:45 GMT, "Minor Crank" wrote: "Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message .. . Crank, TIME doesn't change in gravity gradients. Clocks do. You can see it happening in the GPS. YOUR theory predicts that cesium beam clocks and rubidium glass cell oscillators should differ in their behavior when lifted into orbit. What is found is that exactly the SAME correction (which corresponds to the GR prediction) must be applied to them both, therefore YOUR theory is wrong, disproven, false, and stupid. Do you really believe that Crank? Has anyone rigorously measured the rates of different clocks in free fall? Yeah, stooopid, Each of the 24 GPS satellites carries either four cesium atomic clocks or three rubidum atomic clocks in orbit. Uncle Al cannot see how that sums to fewer than 72 extremely precise clocks in freefall constantly being addressed all over the Earth. http://www.eftaylor.com/pub/projecta.pdf http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/gps/gpsuser/gpsuser.pdf http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/gps/sigspec/default.htm http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/gps/icd200/default.htm http://www.trimble.com/gps/index.html http://sirius.chinalake.navy.mil/satpred/ http://www.phys.lsu.edu/mog/mog9/node9.html http://egtphysics.net/GPS/RelGPS.htm http://www.schriever.af.mil/gps/Current/current.oa1 http://edu-observatory.org/gps/gps_books.html http://www-astronomy.mps.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net! |
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"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message
... On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:27:45 GMT, "Minor Crank" wrote: "Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message .. . Crank, TIME doesn't change in gravity gradients. Clocks do. You can see it happening in the GPS. YOUR theory predicts that cesium beam clocks and rubidium glass cell oscillators should differ in their behavior when lifted into orbit. What is found is that exactly the SAME correction (which corresponds to the GR prediction) must be applied to them both, therefore YOUR theory is wrong, disproven, false, and stupid. Do you really believe that Crank? Has anyone rigorously measured the rates of different clocks in free fall? Yes. GPS. Minor Crank |
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"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message
... On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:31:25 -0700, Uncle Al wrote: They are all in the same orbit stooooooooopid. YOUR theory predicts that, because of their differences in construction, rubidium glass cell oscillators will require corrections for changes in "gravitational stress," while cesium beam clocks won't. This is in complete and absolute contradiction with what is observed. Minor Crank |
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Dependence of the speed of light on the speed of the source.
Henri:
The russian GPS are in different orbits... from the american GPS |
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On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 03:20:30 GMT, "Minor Crank"
wrote: "Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message .. . On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:31:25 -0700, Uncle Al wrote: They are all in the same orbit stooooooooopid. YOUR theory predicts that, because of their differences in construction, rubidium glass cell oscillators will require corrections for changes in "gravitational stress," while cesium beam clocks won't. Crank, the OCs are seen to have changed rates. The causes are irrelevant. This is in complete and absolute contradiction with what is observed. What about pendulum clocks, Crank? Minor Crank Henri Wilson. See my animations at: http://www.users.bigpond.com/HeWn/index.htm |
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Dependence of the speed of light on the speed of the source.
In sci.physics, Henri Wilson
HW@. wrote on Thu, 31 Jul 2003 23:55:19 GMT : On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:31:25 -0700, Uncle Al wrote: Henri Wilson wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:27:45 GMT, "Minor Crank" wrote: "Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message .. . Crank, TIME doesn't change in gravity gradients. Clocks do. You can see it happening in the GPS. YOUR theory predicts that cesium beam clocks and rubidium glass cell oscillators should differ in their behavior when lifted into orbit. What is found is that exactly the SAME correction (which corresponds to the GR prediction) must be applied to them both, therefore YOUR theory is wrong, disproven, false, and stupid. Do you really believe that Crank? Has anyone rigorously measured the rates of different clocks in free fall? Yeah, stooopid, Each of the 24 GPS satellites carries either four cesium atomic clocks or three rubidum atomic clocks in orbit. Uncle Al cannot see how that sums to fewer than 72 extremely precise clocks in freefall constantly being addressed all over the Earth. They are all in the same orbit stooooooooopid. Erm, were they in the same orbit they'd be useless as a GPS. The orbits are scattered around the globe. [.sigsnip] -- #191, It's still legal to go .sigless. |
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Dependence of the speed of light on the speed of the source.
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The Ghost In The Machine wrote: In sci.physics, Henri Wilson HW@. wrote snip Each of the 24 GPS satellites carries either four cesium atomic clocks or three rubidum atomic clocks in orbit. Uncle Al cannot see how that sums to fewer than 72 extremely precise clocks in freefall constantly being addressed all over the Earth. snip denigration--look it up Erm, were they in the same orbit they'd be useless as a GPS. The orbits are scattered around the globe. Well, another penny just dropped. I hadn't separated the GPS satellites with the broadcasting satellites. It's the latter who have the "same" orbits so that there is coverage 7x24... isn't it? /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. |
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