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Old May 23rd 05, 06:06 PM
Herb Schaltegger
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On Mon, 23 May 2005 11:49:56 -0500, Pat Flannery wrote
(in article ):

Doubtful. I have sufficient draws on my time without Pat's
self-important gibberish. He used to be witty, but that seems to have
come to an end.



He liked my postings...especially the early funny ones. But now he lives
in a world that reeks of Bondo and cat litter...and of course the
exploitation of the striving masses in the service of the
Military-Industrial-Cottage Model Kit Manufacturing Complex. :-)


Killfile him back, Pat. With the demise of APR, Lowther's outlived
his usefulness.

Now he's just another assclown.net with a bigger attitude than most.
Remember that pic of him flipping off the world? You couldn't ask for
a better biographical sketch.

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Old May 23rd 05, 06:07 PM
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Pat Flannery wrote:
wrote:

Rand is far less annoying than Pat, and Rand at least has the

advantage
of being neither a socialist useful idiot nor completely uninformed
about aerospace engineering.



He really doesn't like the fact that I said the Antipodal Bomber
wouldn't work as designed, or that the Dyna-Soar didn't make as much
sense as an ICBM in the bombing role.
As for the socialist part- well, let's let the proletarian masses

decide
who the bourgeois counterrevolutionary exploiter around here is,

shall
we? I doubt if Scott's ideal world would be much fun; in my world we

get
show trials for odd crimes like "looking lustily at a fire hydrant

with
thoughts of Trotskyite Wrecker Hooliganism in your mind" followed

by
strange punishments such as "Having to urinate on a fire hydrant with


your leg lifted like a capitalist dog, followed by twelve selected
members of the Red Guard swatting you on your buttocks with rolled-up


copies of Pravda, and being forced at peashooter point to actually

read
Das Kapital."

Doubtful. I have sufficient draws on my time without Pat's
self-important gibberish. He used to be witty, but that seems to

have
come to an end.



He liked my postings...especially the early funny ones. But now he

lives
in a world that reeks of Bondo and cat litter...and of course the
exploitation of the striving masses in the service of the
Military-Industrial-Cottage Model Kit Manufacturing Complex. :-)

Pat



That's it! I've now come to the conclusion that Pat is a Marxist. A
Groucho Marxist. {;-P


Rusty

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Old May 23rd 05, 06:27 PM
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OM wrote:

...Are there examples of single rotors that *work*?


I think there may have been; the Germans took a crack at a backpack
helicopter using twin contrarotating single bladed rotors in WWII:
http://avia.russian.ee/vertigo/baumg...fly-357-r.html
Although I don't remember the specifics, I may have run across a
helicopter RPV that used a single blade at some point.

Pat
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Old May 23rd 05, 06:40 PM
Pat Flannery
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Rusty wrote:

in a world that reeks of Bondo and cat litter...and of course the
exploitation of the striving masses in the service of the
Military-Industrial-Cottage Model Kit Manufacturing Complex. :-)

Pat




That's it! I've now come to the conclusion that Pat is a Marxist. A
Groucho Marxist. {;-P



Did you know that in the diet food business the workers control the
means of reduction? :-)

Pat
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Old May 23rd 05, 06:45 PM
Pat Flannery
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Herb Schaltegger wrote:

Killfile him back, Pat. With the demise of APR, Lowther's outlived
his usefulness.

Now he's just another assclown.net with a bigger attitude than most.
Remember that pic of him flipping off the world? You couldn't ask for
a better biographical sketch.



Nah, it's fun to see how ****ed off I make him by merely existing. And
he does make nice models of oddball things, and found the strange ramjet
powered X-15, which I would have never heard of otherwise.
Hunter S. Thompson was right about one thing though- whatever
ultraconservatives have going for them, a sense of humor isn't part of
it. :-)

Pat
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Old May 23rd 05, 06:47 PM
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With the demise of APR, Lowther's outlived his usefulness.

This from a *lawyer*?

guffaw

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Old May 23rd 05, 06:51 PM
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In message , Pat Flannery
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OM wrote:

...Are there examples of single rotors that *work*?

I think there may have been; the Germans took a crack at a backpack
helicopter using twin contrarotating single bladed rotors in WWII:
http://avia.russian.ee/vertigo/baumg...fly-357-r.html
Although I don't remember the specifics, I may have run across a
helicopter RPV that used a single blade at some point.

Http://www.ifrance.com/luftwaffe35/html/baumgartl.htm mentions a
Heliofly II to go with the I and III on that site (no picture).
But I notice there is no picture of either actually flying :-)
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Old May 23rd 05, 06:58 PM
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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Although I don't remember the specifics, I may have run across a
helicopter RPV that used a single blade at some point.


There's an easy way to check. How many toes do you have?


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Old May 23rd 05, 08:23 PM
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On Tue, 24 May 2005 01:58:14 +0800, "Neil Gerace"
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
...

Although I don't remember the specifics, I may have run across a
helicopter RPV that used a single blade at some point.


There's an easy way to check. How many toes do you have?


....That was a cut below the belt, Neil.

OM

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Old May 23rd 05, 08:53 PM
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Jonathan Silverlight wrote:

Http://www.ifrance.com/luftwaffe35/html/baumgartl.htm mentions a
Heliofly II to go with the I and III on that site (no picture).
But I notice there is no picture of either actually flying :-)


All I've ever been able to find on the thing are these two photos:
http://avia.russian.ee/vertigo/foto/...heliofly-1.jpg
http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...l-heliofly.jpg

(that page is not up anymore)
And this drawing- the middle of the three seems to show someone in
flight, and it looks like it was copied from either a photo or a film:
http://staff.bus.bton.ac.uk/fesg/cla.../heliofly1.jpg
I get a sneaking suspicion that the Heliofly wasn't a great success by
any standard, which is a pity- as The Rocketeer should have taken on one
of these guys in midair combat.
Which will win? Cliff Secord in his Hughes "Cirrus" turborocket belt
with his high speed, or Manfred von Fritz in his Baumgartl "Heliofly"
with his superior maneuverability?.
Suddenly, out of the clouds comes Guido La Speedo- bold Fascisti Gyroman
in his Macchi "Machiavelli" with it's combination of speed _and_
maneuverability...but whose side is "The Sky Prince" on this week? =-O

Pat
 




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