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  #91  
Old November 12th 12, 01:48 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default Aether has mass

On Nov 11, 11:11*pm, Painius wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:21:18 -0800 (PST), Brad Guth









wrote:
On Nov 11, 9:10 pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 11, 11:59 pm, Brad Guth wrote:


Wouldn't atoms w/aether as a supersolid inside of their electron
cloud(s), cause such atoms to decay?


Supersolid by definition means no loss of energy in the interaction
of. It does not mean no interaction.


Just as the Earth displaces the aether with the same amount of force
as the aether displaces the Earth allowing the Earth to travel forever
through the aether the same physical phenomenon are occurring for all
particles of matter.


I sort of figured that much, but only if the supersolid of aether is
2D(without any 3D unit of volume).


The aether displaced by the Earth pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the Earth is gravity.


Except there's nothing objectively proving such aether represents
gravity.


The theory of aether pushing back is thus far a subjective
interpretation that so happens to fulfill the missing mass and the
dark/clear medium by which photons are replicated or propagated.


Photons are 2D waves with no measurable volume or particle. *There's
not even objective proof that a singular photon wave and its 2D tag-
along virtual particle travels anywhere.


Are you a blind man, Brad? *If not, then that's pretty objective
evidence for the movement of photons, wouldn't you agree?

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Words without actions are like galaxies without stars."


You still don't get it, and apparently I'm not smart enough to explain
it any better.

A point-source of light to us, of any distant star (of which there are
at least 1e24 to pick from) offering every spectrum from 0 Hz to
Planck as being represented, creating 1e36/cm3 or a hell of a lot more
of them photon waves per second as having to go off in every
conceivable direction as actual little particle singularity specks of
energy that magically do not lose their energy or integrity over any
given distance, doesn't seem to bother you in the least bit.

BTW; the vast majority(99.9999%) of the photon spectrum(.1 nm 1e11
ly) can't be detected by the human eye. Of course if aether is
gravity that's everywhere, then it's zero Hz wave or existence also
can't be directly detected even by the best technology, much less by
any human eye.

Wow, besides aether representing gravity and the unified core of
everything, this aether must also be the absolute ideal and infinitely
capable FIFO node, of representing an infinite supersolid that's
offering essentially zero photon resistance or superconductivity
regardless of the distance or that of any molecular and/or atomic
temperatures. In other words, mpc755 has absolutely everything
covered under one roof of aether, and you can't find anything the
least bit wrong with that as long as an individual photon wave along
with its phantom particle get to move effortlessly from point A to any
other given point B in the universe, and otherwise you still can't see
a damn thing the least bit unusual about the planet Venus.

“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...18595926178146
  #92  
Old November 12th 12, 02:11 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Nov 12, 4:07*am, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 12, 2:36*am, Painius wrote:











Sorry, I don't understand. *The displaced aether cannot just exert a
gravitational pressure on matter unless there is a pressure on the
aether. *So when you say, "the displaced aether pushes back and exerts
pressure toward matter," you can't be telling the whole story.


When you say, "Aether exists EVERYWHERE particles of matter do not,"
that still does not say what causes the aether to be able to exert a
pressure on matter. *So far, it sounds as if you want to sell a
magical aether that magically exerts pressure on matter just because
it is displaced by matter. *With no source of pressure on the aether
to cause it to exert pressure on matter, then it has to involve magic.
*UNKNOWN FORCE == DISPLACED AETHER == MATTER


Without that unknown force pressuring the aether, then how can the
aether *possibly* exert a forceful pressure upon matter?


--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Words without actions are like galaxies without stars."


Aether existing everywhere particles of matter do not causes there to
be a pressure.

Where the particles move to is physically occupied by aether. When the
particle gets there it displaces the aether. The aether has no where
to go except for where the particle had been.


That's all fine and dandy. However, what is it about this invisible
aether volume and its supersolid flow of filling in wherever ordinary
mass used to exist, that's creating or producing directional gravity?

Is this aether representing a transparent form of intelligent mass
that always knows exactly what, where and when to do everything, so
that its inward force of gravity that’s pushing or compressing
everything together is what only makes us think that ordinary matter
and its atomic binding force is the source of gravity?
  #93  
Old November 12th 12, 02:50 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
mpc755
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On Nov 12, 8:48*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On Nov 11, 11:11*pm, Painius wrote:









On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:21:18 -0800 (PST), Brad Guth


wrote:
On Nov 11, 9:10 pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 11, 11:59 pm, Brad Guth wrote:


Wouldn't atoms w/aether as a supersolid inside of their electron
cloud(s), cause such atoms to decay?


Supersolid by definition means no loss of energy in the interaction
of. It does not mean no interaction.


Just as the Earth displaces the aether with the same amount of force
as the aether displaces the Earth allowing the Earth to travel forever
through the aether the same physical phenomenon are occurring for all
particles of matter.


I sort of figured that much, but only if the supersolid of aether is
2D(without any 3D unit of volume).


The aether displaced by the Earth pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the Earth is gravity.


Except there's nothing objectively proving such aether represents
gravity.


The theory of aether pushing back is thus far a subjective
interpretation that so happens to fulfill the missing mass and the
dark/clear medium by which photons are replicated or propagated.


Photons are 2D waves with no measurable volume or particle. *There's
not even objective proof that a singular photon wave and its 2D tag-
along virtual particle travels anywhere.


Are you a blind man, Brad? *If not, then that's pretty objective
evidence for the movement of photons, wouldn't you agree?


--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Words without actions are like galaxies without stars."


You still don't get it, and apparently I'm not smart enough to explain
it any better.

A point-source of light to us, of any distant star (of which there are
at least 1e24 to pick from) offering every spectrum from 0 Hz to
Planck as being represented, creating 1e36/cm3 or a hell of a lot more
of them photon waves per second as having to go off in every
conceivable direction as actual little particle singularity specks of
energy that magically do not lose their energy or integrity over any
given distance, doesn't seem to bother you in the least bit.

BTW; the vast majority(99.9999%) of the photon spectrum(.1 nm 1e11
ly) can't be detected by the human eye. *Of course if aether is
gravity that's everywhere, then it's zero Hz wave or existence also
can't be directly detected even by the best technology, much less by
any human eye.

Wow, besides aether representing gravity and the unified core of
everything, this aether must also be the absolute ideal and infinitely
capable FIFO node, of representing an infinite supersolid that's
offering essentially zero photon resistance or superconductivity
regardless of the distance or that of any molecular and/or atomic
temperatures. *In other words, mpc755 has absolutely everything
covered under one roof of aether, and you can't find anything the
least bit wrong with that as long as an individual photon wave along
with its phantom particle get to move effortlessly from point A to any
other given point B in the universe, and otherwise you still can't see
a damn thing the least bit unusual about the planet Venus.

“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
*https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow....


Individual photon wave along with its 'particle' get to move
effortlessly from point A to any other given point B in the universe
is the description of pilot-wave theory.

Individual photon wave along with its 'particle' get to move
effortlessly from point A to any other given point B in the universe
is the definition of wave-particle duality in a supersolid.
  #94  
Old November 12th 12, 02:54 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
mpc755
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On Nov 12, 9:11*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On Nov 12, 4:07*am, mpc755 wrote:









On Nov 12, 2:36*am, Painius wrote:


Sorry, I don't understand. *The displaced aether cannot just exert a
gravitational pressure on matter unless there is a pressure on the
aether. *So when you say, "the displaced aether pushes back and exerts
pressure toward matter," you can't be telling the whole story.


When you say, "Aether exists EVERYWHERE particles of matter do not,"
that still does not say what causes the aether to be able to exert a
pressure on matter. *So far, it sounds as if you want to sell a
magical aether that magically exerts pressure on matter just because
it is displaced by matter. *With no source of pressure on the aether
to cause it to exert pressure on matter, then it has to involve magic..
*UNKNOWN FORCE == DISPLACED AETHER == MATTER


Without that unknown force pressuring the aether, then how can the
aether *possibly* exert a forceful pressure upon matter?


--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Words without actions are like galaxies without stars."


Aether existing everywhere particles of matter do not causes there to
be a pressure.


Where the particles move to is physically occupied by aether. When the
particle gets there it displaces the aether. The aether has no where
to go except for where the particle had been.


That's all fine and dandy. *However, what is it about this invisible
aether volume and its supersolid flow of filling in wherever ordinary
mass used to exist, that's creating or producing directional gravity?

Is this aether representing a transparent form of intelligent mass
that always knows exactly what, where and when to do everything, so
that its inward force of gravity that’s pushing or compressing
everything together is what only makes us think that ordinary matter
and its atomic binding force is the source of gravity?


Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced aether pushes back
and exerts inward pressure toward matter.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.
  #95  
Old November 12th 12, 03:04 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default Aether has mass

On Nov 12, 6:54*am, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 12, 9:11*am, Brad Guth wrote:









On Nov 12, 4:07*am, mpc755 wrote:


On Nov 12, 2:36*am, Painius wrote:


Sorry, I don't understand. *The displaced aether cannot just exert a
gravitational pressure on matter unless there is a pressure on the
aether. *So when you say, "the displaced aether pushes back and exerts
pressure toward matter," you can't be telling the whole story.


When you say, "Aether exists EVERYWHERE particles of matter do not,"
that still does not say what causes the aether to be able to exert a
pressure on matter. *So far, it sounds as if you want to sell a
magical aether that magically exerts pressure on matter just because
it is displaced by matter. *With no source of pressure on the aether
to cause it to exert pressure on matter, then it has to involve magic.
*UNKNOWN FORCE == DISPLACED AETHER == MATTER


Without that unknown force pressuring the aether, then how can the
aether *possibly* exert a forceful pressure upon matter?


--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Words without actions are like galaxies without stars."


Aether existing everywhere particles of matter do not causes there to
be a pressure.


Where the particles move to is physically occupied by aether. When the
particle gets there it displaces the aether. The aether has no where
to go except for where the particle had been.


That's all fine and dandy. *However, what is it about this invisible
aether volume and its supersolid flow of filling in wherever ordinary
mass used to exist, that's creating or producing directional gravity?


Is this aether representing a transparent form of intelligent mass
that always knows exactly what, where and when to do everything, so
that its inward force of gravity that’s pushing or compressing
everything together is what only makes us think that ordinary matter
and its atomic binding force is the source of gravity?


Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced aether pushes back
and exerts inward pressure toward matter.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.


So, how is aether directional or causing directional gravity?
  #96  
Old November 12th 12, 03:05 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
mpc755
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Default Aether has mass

On Nov 12, 10:04Ā*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On Nov 12, 6:54Ā*am, mpc755 wrote:









On Nov 12, 9:11Ā*am, Brad Guth wrote:


On Nov 12, 4:07Ā*am, mpc755 wrote:


On Nov 12, 2:36Ā*am, Painius wrote:


Sorry, I don't understand. Ā*The displaced aether cannot just exert a
gravitational pressure on matter unless there is a pressure on the
aether. Ā*So when you say, "the displaced aether pushes back and exerts
pressure toward matter," you can't be telling the whole story.


When you say, "Aether exists EVERYWHERE particles of matter do not,"
that still does not say what causes the aether to be able to exert a
pressure on matter. Ā*So far, it sounds as if you want to sell a
magical aether that magically exerts pressure on matter just because
it is displaced by matter. Ā*With no source of pressure on the aether
to cause it to exert pressure on matter, then it has to involve magic.
Ā*UNKNOWN FORCE == DISPLACED AETHER == MATTER


Without that unknown force pressuring the aether, then how can the
aether *possibly* exert a forceful pressure upon matter?


--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Words without actions are like galaxies without stars."


Aether existing everywhere particles of matter do not causes there to
be a pressure.


Where the particles move to is physically occupied by aether. When the
particle gets there it displaces the aether. The aether has no where
to go except for where the particle had been.


That's all fine and dandy. Ā*However, what is it about this invisible
aether volume and its supersolid flow of filling in wherever ordinary
mass used to exist, that's creating or producing directional gravity?


Is this aether representing a transparent form of intelligent mass
that always knows exactly what, where and when to do everything, so
that its inward force of gravity thatā€™s pushing or compressing
everything together is what only makes us think that ordinary matter
and its atomic binding force is the source of gravity?


Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced aether pushes back
and exerts inward pressure toward matter.


Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.


So, how is aether directional or causing directional gravity?


'An Extended Dynamical Equation of Motion, Phase Dependency and
Inertial Backreaction'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1208.3458

"We hypothesize that space itself resists such surges according to a
kind of induction law (related to inertia); additionally, we provide
further evidence of the ā€œfluidicā€ nature of space itself."

The aether is, or behaves similar to, a superfluid with properties of
a solid, a supersolid, which is described in the article as the
'fluidic' nature of space itself. The 'back-reaction' described in the
article is the displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the matter.

The following article describes the aether as an incompressible fluid
resulting in what the article refers to as gravitational aether caused
by pressure (or vorticity).

'Phenomenology of Gravitational Aether as a solution to the Old
Cosmological Constant Problem'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1106.3955

"One proposal to address this puzzle at the semi-classical level is to
decouple quantum vacuum from space-time geometry via a modification of
gravity that includes an incompressible fluid, known as Gravitational
Aether. In this paper, we discuss classical predictions of this theory
along with its compatibility with cosmological and experimental tests
of gravity. We argue that deviations from General Relativity (GR) in
this theory are sourced by pressure or vorticity."

The following article describes gravity as a pressure exerted by
aether toward matter.

'The aether-modified gravity and the G Ģˆdel metric'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1109.5654v2

"As for the pressure, it is equal to p = 53āˆ’Ī±g,6a2 so, it is positive
if Ī±g 3 which is the weaker condition than the previous one. One
notes that the results corresponding to the usual gravity are easily
recovered. Also, it is easy to see that the interval Ī±g 15
corresponds to the usual matter."

The following article describes a gravitating vacuum where aether is
the quantum vacuum of the 21-st century.

'From Analogue Models to Gravitating Vacuum'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1111.1155

"The aether of the 21-st century is the quantum vacuum, which is a new
form of matter. This is the real substance"

The following articles describe what is presently postulated as dark
matter is aether.

'Quantum aether and an invariant Planck scale'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.3753

"this version of aether may have some bearing on the abundance of Dark
Matter and Dark Energy in our universe."

"mass of the aether"

'Scalars, Vectors and Tensors from Metric-Affine Gravity'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1110.5168

"the model obtained here gets closer to the aether theory of , which
is shown therein to be an alternative to the cold dark matter."

'Unified model for dark matter and quintessence'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0610135

"Superfluid dark matter is reminiscent of the aether and modeling the
universe using superfluid aether is compatible."

'Vainshtein mechanism in Gauss-Bonnet gravity and Galileon aether'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1107.1892

"the perturbations of the scalar field do not propagate in the
Minkowski space-time but rather in some form of ā€aetherā€ because of
the presence of the background field"
  #97  
Old November 12th 12, 03:11 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default Aether has mass

On Nov 12, 7:05Ā*am, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 12, 10:04Ā*am, Brad Guth wrote:



On Nov 12, 6:54Ā*am, mpc755 wrote:


On Nov 12, 9:11Ā*am, Brad Guth wrote:


On Nov 12, 4:07Ā*am, mpc755 wrote:


On Nov 12, 2:36Ā*am, Painius wrote:


Sorry, I don't understand. Ā*The displaced aether cannot just exert a
gravitational pressure on matter unless there is a pressure on the
aether. Ā*So when you say, "the displaced aether pushes back and exerts
pressure toward matter," you can't be telling the whole story.


When you say, "Aether exists EVERYWHERE particles of matter do not,"
that still does not say what causes the aether to be able to exert a
pressure on matter. Ā*So far, it sounds as if you want to sell a
magical aether that magically exerts pressure on matter just because
it is displaced by matter. Ā*With no source of pressure on the aether
to cause it to exert pressure on matter, then it has to involve magic.
Ā*UNKNOWN FORCE == DISPLACED AETHER == MATTER


Without that unknown force pressuring the aether, then how can the
aether *possibly* exert a forceful pressure upon matter?


--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Words without actions are like galaxies without stars."


Aether existing everywhere particles of matter do not causes there to
be a pressure.


Where the particles move to is physically occupied by aether. When the
particle gets there it displaces the aether. The aether has no where
to go except for where the particle had been.


That's all fine and dandy. Ā*However, what is it about this invisible
aether volume and its supersolid flow of filling in wherever ordinary
mass used to exist, that's creating or producing directional gravity?


Is this aether representing a transparent form of intelligent mass
that always knows exactly what, where and when to do everything, so
that its inward force of gravity thatā€™s pushing or compressing
everything together is what only makes us think that ordinary matter
and its atomic binding force is the source of gravity?


Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced aether pushes back
and exerts inward pressure toward matter.


Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.


So, how is aether directional or causing directional gravity?


'An Extended Dynamical Equation of Motion, Phase Dependency and
Inertial Backreaction'http://arxiv.org/abs/1208.3458

"We hypothesize that space itself resists such surges according to a
kind of induction law (related to inertia); additionally, we provide
further evidence of the ā€œfluidicā€ nature of space itself."

The aether is, or behaves similar to, a superfluid with properties of
a solid, a supersolid, which is described in the article as the
'fluidic' nature of space itself. The 'back-reaction' described in the
article is the displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the matter.

The following article describes the aether as an incompressible fluid
resulting in what the article refers to as gravitational aether caused
by pressure (or vorticity).

'Phenomenology of Gravitational Aether as a solution to the Old
Cosmological Constant Problem'http://arxiv.org/abs/1106.3955

"One proposal to address this puzzle at the semi-classical level is to
decouple quantum vacuum from space-time geometry via a modification of
gravity that includes an incompressible fluid, known as Gravitational
Aether. In this paper, we discuss classical predictions of this theory
along with its compatibility with cosmological and experimental tests
of gravity. We argue that deviations from General Relativity (GR) in
this theory are sourced by pressure or vorticity."

The following article describes gravity as a pressure exerted by
aether toward matter.

'The aether-modified gravity and the G Ģˆdel metric'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1109.5654v2

"As for the pressure, it is equal to p = 53āˆ’Ī±g,6a2 so, it is positive
if Ī±g 3 which is the weaker condition than the previous one. One
notes that the results corresponding to the usual gravity are easily
recovered. Also, it is easy to see that the interval Ī±g 15
corresponds to the usual matter."

The following article describes a gravitating vacuum where aether is
the quantum vacuum of the 21-st century.

'From Analogue Models to Gravitating Vacuum'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1111.1155

"The aether of the 21-st century is the quantum vacuum, which is a new
form of matter. This is the real substance"

The following articles describe what is presently postulated as dark
matter is aether.

'Quantum aether and an invariant Planck scale'http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.3753

"this version of aether may have some bearing on the abundance of Dark
Matter and Dark Energy in our universe."

"mass of the aether"

'Scalars, Vectors and Tensors from Metric-Affine Gravity'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1110.5168

"the model obtained here gets closer to the aether theory of , which
is shown therein to be an alternative to the cold dark matter."

'Unified model for dark matter and quintessence'http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0610135

"Superfluid dark matter is reminiscent of the aether and modeling the
universe using superfluid aether is compatible."

'Vainshtein mechanism in Gauss-Bonnet gravity and Galileon aether'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1107.1892

"the perturbations of the scalar field do not propagate in the
Minkowski space-time but rather in some form of ā€aetherā€ because of
the presence of the background field"


It's perfectly okay to say you don't know why or how aether is
directional at creating gravity.
  #98  
Old November 12th 12, 03:18 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
mpc755
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Posts: 818
Default Aether has mass

On Nov 12, 10:11Ā*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On Nov 12, 7:05Ā*am, mpc755 wrote:









On Nov 12, 10:04Ā*am, Brad Guth wrote:


On Nov 12, 6:54Ā*am, mpc755 wrote:


On Nov 12, 9:11Ā*am, Brad Guth wrote:


On Nov 12, 4:07Ā*am, mpc755 wrote:


On Nov 12, 2:36Ā*am, Painius wrote:


Sorry, I don't understand. Ā*The displaced aether cannot just exert a
gravitational pressure on matter unless there is a pressure on the
aether. Ā*So when you say, "the displaced aether pushes back and exerts
pressure toward matter," you can't be telling the whole story..


When you say, "Aether exists EVERYWHERE particles of matter do not,"
that still does not say what causes the aether to be able to exert a
pressure on matter. Ā*So far, it sounds as if you want to sell a
magical aether that magically exerts pressure on matter just because
it is displaced by matter. Ā*With no source of pressure on the aether
to cause it to exert pressure on matter, then it has to involve magic.
Ā*UNKNOWN FORCE == DISPLACED AETHER == MATTER


Without that unknown force pressuring the aether, then how can the
aether *possibly* exert a forceful pressure upon matter?


--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Words without actions are like galaxies without stars."


Aether existing everywhere particles of matter do not causes there to
be a pressure.


Where the particles move to is physically occupied by aether. When the
particle gets there it displaces the aether. The aether has no where
to go except for where the particle had been.


That's all fine and dandy. Ā*However, what is it about this invisible
aether volume and its supersolid flow of filling in wherever ordinary
mass used to exist, that's creating or producing directional gravity?


Is this aether representing a transparent form of intelligent mass
that always knows exactly what, where and when to do everything, so
that its inward force of gravity thatā€™s pushing or compressing
everything together is what only makes us think that ordinary matter
and its atomic binding force is the source of gravity?


Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space..
Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced aether pushes back
and exerts inward pressure toward matter.


Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.


So, how is aether directional or causing directional gravity?


'An Extended Dynamical Equation of Motion, Phase Dependency and
Inertial Backreaction'http://arxiv.org/abs/1208.3458


"We hypothesize that space itself resists such surges according to a
kind of induction law (related to inertia); additionally, we provide
further evidence of the ā€œfluidicā€ nature of space itself."


The aether is, or behaves similar to, a superfluid with properties of
a solid, a supersolid, which is described in the article as the
'fluidic' nature of space itself. The 'back-reaction' described in the
article is the displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the matter.


The following article describes the aether as an incompressible fluid
resulting in what the article refers to as gravitational aether caused
by pressure (or vorticity).


'Phenomenology of Gravitational Aether as a solution to the Old
Cosmological Constant Problem'http://arxiv.org/abs/1106.3955


"One proposal to address this puzzle at the semi-classical level is to
decouple quantum vacuum from space-time geometry via a modification of
gravity that includes an incompressible fluid, known as Gravitational
Aether. In this paper, we discuss classical predictions of this theory
along with its compatibility with cosmological and experimental tests
of gravity. We argue that deviations from General Relativity (GR) in
this theory are sourced by pressure or vorticity."


The following article describes gravity as a pressure exerted by
aether toward matter.


'The aether-modified gravity and the G Ģˆdel metric'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1109.5654v2


"As for the pressure, it is equal to p = 53āˆ’Ī±g,6a2 so, it is positive
if Ī±g 3 which is the weaker condition than the previous one. One
notes that the results corresponding to the usual gravity are easily
recovered. Also, it is easy to see that the interval Ī±g 15
corresponds to the usual matter."


The following article describes a gravitating vacuum where aether is
the quantum vacuum of the 21-st century.


'From Analogue Models to Gravitating Vacuum'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1111.1155


"The aether of the 21-st century is the quantum vacuum, which is a new
form of matter. This is the real substance"


The following articles describe what is presently postulated as dark
matter is aether.


'Quantum aether and an invariant Planck scale'http://arxiv.org/abs/1110..3753


"this version of aether may have some bearing on the abundance of Dark
Matter and Dark Energy in our universe."


"mass of the aether"


'Scalars, Vectors and Tensors from Metric-Affine Gravity'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1110.5168


"the model obtained here gets closer to the aether theory of , which
is shown therein to be an alternative to the cold dark matter."


'Unified model for dark matter and quintessence'http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0610135


"Superfluid dark matter is reminiscent of the aether and modeling the
universe using superfluid aether is compatible."


'Vainshtein mechanism in Gauss-Bonnet gravity and Galileon aether'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1107.1892


"the perturbations of the scalar field do not propagate in the
Minkowski space-time but rather in some form of ā€aetherā€ because of
the presence of the background field"


It's perfectly okay to say you don't know why or how aether is
directional at creating gravity.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir...#Vacuum_energy

"In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if
space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and
the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a
ball from its rest position."

A 'field' in physics is space filled with aether and the strength of
the field is the displacement of the aether from its rest position.

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~...ein_ether.html

"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is
unthinkable"

"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ...
disregarding the causes which condition its state."

The state of the aether at every place determined by connections with
the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
state of displacement of the aether.
  #99  
Old November 12th 12, 03:32 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
G=EMC^2[_2_]
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Default Aether has mass

On Nov 12, 10:18Ā*am, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 12, 10:11Ā*am, Brad Guth wrote:









On Nov 12, 7:05Ā*am, mpc755 wrote:


On Nov 12, 10:04Ā*am, Brad Guth wrote:


On Nov 12, 6:54Ā*am, mpc755 wrote:


On Nov 12, 9:11Ā*am, Brad Guth wrote:


On Nov 12, 4:07Ā*am, mpc755 wrote:


On Nov 12, 2:36Ā*am, Painius wrote:


Sorry, I don't understand. Ā*The displaced aether cannot just exert a
gravitational pressure on matter unless there is a pressure on the
aether. Ā*So when you say, "the displaced aether pushes back and exerts
pressure toward matter," you can't be telling the whole story.


When you say, "Aether exists EVERYWHERE particles of matter do not,"
that still does not say what causes the aether to be able to exert a
pressure on matter. Ā*So far, it sounds as if you want to sell a
magical aether that magically exerts pressure on matter just because
it is displaced by matter. Ā*With no source of pressure on the aether
to cause it to exert pressure on matter, then it has to involve magic.
Ā*UNKNOWN FORCE == DISPLACED AETHER == MATTER


Without that unknown force pressuring the aether, then how can the
aether *possibly* exert a forceful pressure upon matter?


--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Words without actions are like galaxies without stars."


Aether existing everywhere particles of matter do not causes there to
be a pressure.


Where the particles move to is physically occupied by aether. When the
particle gets there it displaces the aether. The aether has no where
to go except for where the particle had been.


That's all fine and dandy. Ā*However, what is it about this invisible
aether volume and its supersolid flow of filling in wherever ordinary
mass used to exist, that's creating or producing directional gravity?


Is this aether representing a transparent form of intelligent mass
that always knows exactly what, where and when to do everything, so
that its inward force of gravity thatā€™s pushing or compressing
everything together is what only makes us think that ordinary matter
and its atomic binding force is the source of gravity?


Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced aether pushes back
and exerts inward pressure toward matter.


Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.


So, how is aether directional or causing directional gravity?


'An Extended Dynamical Equation of Motion, Phase Dependency and
Inertial Backreaction'http://arxiv.org/abs/1208.3458


"We hypothesize that space itself resists such surges according to a
kind of induction law (related to inertia); additionally, we provide
further evidence of the ā€œfluidicā€ nature of space itself."


The aether is, or behaves similar to, a superfluid with properties of
a solid, a supersolid, which is described in the article as the
'fluidic' nature of space itself. The 'back-reaction' described in the
article is the displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the matter.


The following article describes the aether as an incompressible fluid
resulting in what the article refers to as gravitational aether caused
by pressure (or vorticity).


'Phenomenology of Gravitational Aether as a solution to the Old
Cosmological Constant Problem'http://arxiv.org/abs/1106.3955


"One proposal to address this puzzle at the semi-classical level is to
decouple quantum vacuum from space-time geometry via a modification of
gravity that includes an incompressible fluid, known as Gravitational
Aether. In this paper, we discuss classical predictions of this theory
along with its compatibility with cosmological and experimental tests
of gravity. We argue that deviations from General Relativity (GR) in
this theory are sourced by pressure or vorticity."


The following article describes gravity as a pressure exerted by
aether toward matter.


'The aether-modified gravity and the G Ģˆdel metric'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1109.5654v2


"As for the pressure, it is equal to p = 53āˆ’Ī±g,6a2 so, it is positive
if Ī±g 3 which is the weaker condition than the previous one. One
notes that the results corresponding to the usual gravity are easily
recovered. Also, it is easy to see that the interval Ī±g 15
corresponds to the usual matter."


The following article describes a gravitating vacuum where aether is
the quantum vacuum of the 21-st century.


'From Analogue Models to Gravitating Vacuum'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1111..1155


"The aether of the 21-st century is the quantum vacuum, which is a new
form of matter. This is the real substance"


The following articles describe what is presently postulated as dark
matter is aether.


'Quantum aether and an invariant Planck scale'http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.3753


"this version of aether may have some bearing on the abundance of Dark
Matter and Dark Energy in our universe."


"mass of the aether"


'Scalars, Vectors and Tensors from Metric-Affine Gravity'http://arxiv..org/pdf/1110.5168


"the model obtained here gets closer to the aether theory of , which
is shown therein to be an alternative to the cold dark matter."


'Unified model for dark matter and quintessence'http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0610135


"Superfluid dark matter is reminiscent of the aether and modeling the
universe using superfluid aether is compatible."


'Vainshtein mechanism in Gauss-Bonnet gravity and Galileon aether'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1107.1892


"the perturbations of the scalar field do not propagate in the
Minkowski space-time but rather in some form of ā€aetherā€ because of
the presence of the background field"


It's perfectly okay to say you don't know why or how aether is
directional at creating gravity.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir...#Vacuum_energy

"In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if
space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and
the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a
ball from its rest position."

A 'field' in physics is space filled with aether and the strength of
the field is the displacement of the aether from its rest position.

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html

"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is
unthinkable"

"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ...
disregarding the causes which condition its state."

The state of the aether at every place determined by connections with
the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
state of displacement of the aether.


Vitual particles create aether waves,and that is its structure. TeBet
  #100  
Old November 12th 12, 03:36 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
mpc755
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Posts: 818
Default Aether has mass

On Nov 12, 10:32Ā*am, "G=EMC^2" wrote:
On Nov 12, 10:18Ā*am, mpc755 wrote:









On Nov 12, 10:11Ā*am, Brad Guth wrote:


On Nov 12, 7:05Ā*am, mpc755 wrote:


On Nov 12, 10:04Ā*am, Brad Guth wrote:


On Nov 12, 6:54Ā*am, mpc755 wrote:


On Nov 12, 9:11Ā*am, Brad Guth wrote:


On Nov 12, 4:07Ā*am, mpc755 wrote:


On Nov 12, 2:36Ā*am, Painius wrote:


Sorry, I don't understand. Ā*The displaced aether cannot just exert a
gravitational pressure on matter unless there is a pressure on the
aether. Ā*So when you say, "the displaced aether pushes back and exerts
pressure toward matter," you can't be telling the whole story.


When you say, "Aether exists EVERYWHERE particles of matter do not,"
that still does not say what causes the aether to be able to exert a
pressure on matter. Ā*So far, it sounds as if you want to sell a
magical aether that magically exerts pressure on matter just because
it is displaced by matter. Ā*With no source of pressure on the aether
to cause it to exert pressure on matter, then it has to involve magic.
Ā*UNKNOWN FORCE == DISPLACED AETHER == MATTER


Without that unknown force pressuring the aether, then how can the
aether *possibly* exert a forceful pressure upon matter?


--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Words without actions are like galaxies without stars."


Aether existing everywhere particles of matter do not causes there to
be a pressure.


Where the particles move to is physically occupied by aether. When the
particle gets there it displaces the aether. The aether has no where
to go except for where the particle had been.


That's all fine and dandy. Ā*However, what is it about this invisible
aether volume and its supersolid flow of filling in wherever ordinary
mass used to exist, that's creating or producing directional gravity?


Is this aether representing a transparent form of intelligent mass
that always knows exactly what, where and when to do everything, so
that its inward force of gravity thatā€™s pushing or compressing
everything together is what only makes us think that ordinary matter
and its atomic binding force is the source of gravity?


Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced aether pushes back
and exerts inward pressure toward matter.


Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.


So, how is aether directional or causing directional gravity?


'An Extended Dynamical Equation of Motion, Phase Dependency and
Inertial Backreaction'http://arxiv.org/abs/1208.3458


"We hypothesize that space itself resists such surges according to a
kind of induction law (related to inertia); additionally, we provide
further evidence of the ā€œfluidicā€ nature of space itself."


The aether is, or behaves similar to, a superfluid with properties of
a solid, a supersolid, which is described in the article as the
'fluidic' nature of space itself. The 'back-reaction' described in the
article is the displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the matter.


The following article describes the aether as an incompressible fluid
resulting in what the article refers to as gravitational aether caused
by pressure (or vorticity).


'Phenomenology of Gravitational Aether as a solution to the Old
Cosmological Constant Problem'http://arxiv.org/abs/1106.3955


"One proposal to address this puzzle at the semi-classical level is to
decouple quantum vacuum from space-time geometry via a modification of
gravity that includes an incompressible fluid, known as Gravitational
Aether. In this paper, we discuss classical predictions of this theory
along with its compatibility with cosmological and experimental tests
of gravity. We argue that deviations from General Relativity (GR) in
this theory are sourced by pressure or vorticity."


The following article describes gravity as a pressure exerted by
aether toward matter.


'The aether-modified gravity and the G Ģˆdel metric'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1109.5654v2


"As for the pressure, it is equal to p = 53āˆ’Ī±g,6a2 so, it is positive
if Ī±g 3 which is the weaker condition than the previous one. One
notes that the results corresponding to the usual gravity are easily
recovered. Also, it is easy to see that the interval Ī±g 15
corresponds to the usual matter."


The following article describes a gravitating vacuum where aether is
the quantum vacuum of the 21-st century.


'From Analogue Models to Gravitating Vacuum'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1111.1155


"The aether of the 21-st century is the quantum vacuum, which is a new
form of matter. This is the real substance"


The following articles describe what is presently postulated as dark
matter is aether.


'Quantum aether and an invariant Planck scale'http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.3753


"this version of aether may have some bearing on the abundance of Dark
Matter and Dark Energy in our universe."


"mass of the aether"


'Scalars, Vectors and Tensors from Metric-Affine Gravity'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1110.5168


"the model obtained here gets closer to the aether theory of , which
is shown therein to be an alternative to the cold dark matter."


'Unified model for dark matter and quintessence'http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0610135


"Superfluid dark matter is reminiscent of the aether and modeling the
universe using superfluid aether is compatible."


'Vainshtein mechanism in Gauss-Bonnet gravity and Galileon aether'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1107.1892


"the perturbations of the scalar field do not propagate in the
Minkowski space-time but rather in some form of ā€aetherā€ because of
the presence of the background field"


It's perfectly okay to say you don't know why or how aether is
directional at creating gravity.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir...#Vacuum_energy


"In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if
space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and
the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a
ball from its rest position."


A 'field' in physics is space filled with aether and the strength of
the field is the displacement of the aether from its rest position.


'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html


"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is
unthinkable"


"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ...
disregarding the causes which condition its state."


The state of the aether at every place determined by connections with
the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
state of displacement of the aether.


Vitual particles create aether waves,and that is its structure. Ā*TeBet


There are no such things as virtual particles. Virtual particles are a
figment of mainstream physicists minds because they are unable to
understand aether is displaced by matter.
 




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