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if we had to leave this planet and colonize elsewhere...
okay, say our planet becomes inhabitable and we gotta leave. people
remaining will all die. the people who do leave for another planet.... no guarantee that it'll be found but let's say they come upon a planet that may be inhabitable. 1. suppose the planet already has inhabitants. what if they don't allow us to stay? should we wage war like the israelites in the land of canaan and carve out a little territory? should we respect their wishes and drift in space til we inevitably run out of fuel and die? 2. suppose the natives of the planet invite us but only as second class citizens. would this be cool? 3. suppose the natives have the IQ of something like 70 and we have the intellectual and technological power to rule them. should we? 4. suppose the indigenous animals are no smarter than animals. should we hunt them and eat them? 5. could there be a planet that is inhabitable but has developed no life? for example, can a planet have plentiful oxygen in the air without plant life? 6. if we don't find a planet to settle on, can we survive on the spaceship indefinitely by taking fuel and material from gaseous planets like jupiter? could we perhaps download our consciousness into computers so that we won't need food and to take a ****? 7. suppose on a planet there is a battle between two native groups, something like ET version of nazis vs the soviets. should we side with one group and help them and share in the spoils? should we remain neutral? 8. what will the human colonizers and their descendants think of the planet that was the home of their ancestors? will it totally be forgotten or considered just some silly myth? 9. why do we bother with art, history, and civilization when we know all this gonna turn into dust and will be entirely forgotten in the grand scheme of things? 10. you agree that no matter what we do, it's ultimately pointless and stupid? |
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"Jim Cambias" wrote ...
(meat n potatoes) wrote: 10. you agree that no matter what we do, it's ultimately pointless and stupid? Oh, no. Why bother living, otherwise? If it's all pointless, why stay alive? Why post these questions? A really basic point is that the means _is_ (also) the end. The journey is as much the point as the destination. |
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"meat n potatoes" wrote in message
om... okay, say our planet becomes inhabitable and we gotta leave. people remaining will all die. [snip more drivel[ 10. you agree that no matter what we do, it's ultimately pointless and stupid? Only if we abandon the conventions of punctuation. Then all is lost. Luke |
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"Jim Cambias" wrote in message ... In article , (meat n potatoes) wrote: 6. if we don't find a planet to settle on, can we survive on the spaceship indefinitely by taking fuel and material from gaseous planets like jupiter? could we perhaps download our consciousness into computers so that we won't need food and to take a ****? This has been suggested -- by Spinrad's _Riding the Torch_ and more recently by Banks's "Culture" series. I think it's a fine idea; others think it's horrible. I guess it depends on whether you think of it as living in a moving city or flying coach forever. Anthony's "Bio of a Space Tyrant" series has all the gas giants in our solar system inhabited by bubble habitats, which range in size from "little bitty family cabin" to "small artificial moon." They seem to get along fine. Of course, they also have gravity control technology and antimatter energy systems, as well as the bubbles themselves, which are made of pure handwavium. If the alternative is dying, I have no problem giving life as a computer a try. D |
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In article ,
meat n potatoes wrote: [scenario snipped] loki, is that you? -- Aaron Brezenski Not speaking for my employer in any way. |
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In sci.space.policy Wayne Throop wrote:
: (meat n potatoes) : okay, say our planet becomes inhabitable and we gotta leave. : people remaining will all die. Sort of like gasoline becoming inflamable so that cars don't work anymore. I think there was a discussion about an upcoming book like that. ROFLMAO Wayne Throop http://sheol.org/throopw -- Sander +++ Out of cheese error +++ |
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if we had to leave this planet and colonize elsewhere...
In sci.space.policy Alcarecco wrote:
(Jim Cambias) wrote in : In article , (meat n potatoes) wrote: snip 4. suppose the indigenous animals are no smarter than animals. should we hunt them and eat them? It's highly unlikely that eating them would do anything but lead to vomiting. This is an alien biosphere we're talking about. The idea that we couldn't eat anything from an alien biosphere seems to be a generally accepted SF convention, but if they used the same sorts of amino acids, etc that we do (which might not be that unlikely since, IIRC, at least some of these seem to be reasonably common in space)perhaps we could eat them. Does anyone know if there has been theoretical work done on this or are we just guessing? Consider the many thousands of chemicals in your average organism. Only one needs to be toxic. The problem is hard to guess about, you really need hard data. Unfortunately that hard data is nonexistant. It's not utterly impossible to hypothesise a relatively simple "food converter" that filters out one or two useful chemicals from alien biomass. Maybe sugar/... On the other hand, sugar has some problems. |
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