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Old October 7th 15, 06:42 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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The Saline Slopes of Mars
NASA News release video 28th September 2015
on perchlorate bound water.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=11&v=60T6ztd0CFk
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Old October 7th 15, 06:43 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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The temperature range of liquid water on Earth is 100 degrees.
The same range of bound water on Mars is 95 degrees.
If all the water on Mars were limited to a bound water cycle.
The maximum amount would be limited by the amount of perchlorates.
Are there enough perchlorates to contain an ocean?
Liquid water on Mars has 5 degree range.
Mars thermometer goes from -71 to 24 degrees
centigrade for bound water
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It does not look like flowing water to me, more like seepage.
For the most part the water is chrystaline and dry to the touch.
The regolith contains half a percentage point of perchlorates.
You get it out by boiling it off at 24C or by plant expiration
in a greenhouse.
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The temperature range of liquid water on Earth is 100 degrees.


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Chart shows Chrystaline form of water solution locked into perchlorates.
Laboratory studies of perchlorate phase transitions: Support for metastable aqueous perchlorate solutions on Mars
https://www.academia.edu/1347935/Lab... ions_on_Mars

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On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 18:44:18 UTC+1, Tony Lance wrote:
It does not look like flowing water to me, more like seepage.


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The temperature range of liquid water on Earth is 100 degrees.


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Old October 8th 15, 05:57 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Perchlorates already contain water. Atmospheric water
sublimates off into outer space or ends up at poles as ice.
They stop all the water going away or all ending up at the poles.
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On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 6:45:14 PM UTC+1, Tony Lance wrote:
Chart shows Chrystaline form of water solution locked into perchlorates.

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On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 18:44:18 UTC+1, Tony Lance wrote:
It does not look like flowing water to me, more like seepage.


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On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 18:43:26 UTC+1, Tony Lance wrote:
The temperature range of liquid water on Earth is 100 degrees.


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On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 18:42:31 UTC+1, Tony Lance wrote:
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Old October 8th 15, 05:58 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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I would speculate that dry perchlorates in dust clouds soak
up some atmospheric water and dry rain falls to the ground.
In the beginning and end of each day the perchlorate enters
a dew phase and passes from ice to liquid to chrystaline
to liquid and to ice. In summer some water is liberated from
the pole. That would describe a complete water cycle.
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On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 5:57:30 PM UTC+1, Tony Lance wrote:
Perchlorates already contain water. Atmospheric water


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On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 6:45:14 PM UTC+1, Tony Lance wrote:
Chart shows Chrystaline form of water solution locked into perchlorates.

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On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 18:44:18 UTC+1, Tony Lance wrote:
It does not look like flowing water to me, more like seepage.


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On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 18:43:26 UTC+1, Tony Lance wrote:
The temperature range of liquid water on Earth is 100 degrees.

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On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 18:42:31 UTC+1, Tony Lance wrote:
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Old October 8th 15, 08:50 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Tony Lance wrote:
I would speculate that dry perchlorates in dust clouds soak
up some atmospheric water and dry rain falls to the ground.
In the beginning and end of each day the perchlorate enters
a dew phase and passes from ice to liquid to chrystaline
to liquid and to ice. In summer some water is liberated from
the pole. That would describe a complete water cycle.
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On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 5:57:30 PM UTC+1, Tony Lance wrote:
Perchlorates already contain water. Atmospheric water


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On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 6:45:14 PM UTC+1, Tony Lance wrote:
Chart shows Chrystaline form of water solution locked into perchlorates.

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On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 18:44:18 UTC+1, Tony Lance wrote:
It does not look like flowing water to me, more like seepage.

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On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 18:43:26 UTC+1, Tony Lance wrote:
The temperature range of liquid water on Earth is 100 degrees.

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On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 18:42:31 UTC+1, Tony Lance wrote:
The Saline Slopes of Mars



Perchlorates are pretty powerful oxidisers.Any life in this environment
would be not as we know it Jim.


 




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