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A Stupid Question
I realize this is not a chemistry group, but I figure I could get some slack
cut for me, since I lurk here quite a bit. I am starting to reach my seven year old about elements, so I want to be sure I understand some basics. If I had a atom of Helium, a great pair of scissors and a some super glue, I could theoretically, cut the Helium atom (2 Protons, 2 Nuetrons, 2 Electrons) into pieces and then make two Hydrogen atoms (1 proton, 1 electron) and just toss the nuetrons in the garbage. Is this correct? Is a proton a proton? and an electron an electron? and a neutron a nuetron? BV. |
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Is a proton a proton? and an electron an electron? and a neutron a nuetron?
BV. A typo, But close enough for jazz. _______ Blog, or dog? Who knows. But if you see my lost pup, please ping me! A HREF="http://journals.aol.com/virginiaz/DreamingofLeonardo"http://journal s.aol.com/virginiaz/DreamingofLeonardo/A |
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:28:00 -0500, "Benign Vanilla"
wrote: I am starting to reach my seven year old about elements, so I want to be sure I understand some basics. If I had a atom of Helium, a great pair of scissors and a some super glue, I could theoretically, cut the Helium atom (2 Protons, 2 Nuetrons, 2 Electrons) into pieces and then make two Hydrogen atoms (1 proton, 1 electron) and just toss the nuetrons in the garbage. Is this correct? Is a proton a proton? and an electron an electron? and a neutron a nuetron? BV. You just basically described fission. The two neutrons, if they had enough energy, would collide with other helium atoms and split them as well. In this case, you will need to add more energy to the system to continue the reaction, but in the case of heavier elements, the reaction continues...uranium bombs use this principle. If the hydrogen atoms retain the neutrons, they are just another isotope of hydrogen, which exists in nature and is called deuterium. The chemical properties are identical (since chemistry is governed by bonds among electrons), but the atomic weight is double the weight of a normal hydrogen atom. Kapella |
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"Benign Vanilla" wrote in
: I realize this is not a chemistry group, but I figure I could get some slack cut for me, since I lurk here quite a bit. I am starting to reach my seven year old about elements, so I want to be sure I understand some basics. If I had a atom of Helium, a great pair of scissors and a some super glue, I could theoretically, cut the Helium atom (2 Protons, 2 Nuetrons, 2 Electrons) into pieces and then make two Hydrogen atoms (1 proton, 1 electron) and just toss the nuetrons in the garbage. Is this correct? More or less. You would have to supply a lot of energy to break an alpha particle (He neucleus) apart - it's an endothermic reaction. On the other hand stripping off the two elections from He to form an alpha particle plus 2e is endothermic too but doesn't require nearly as much energy. The free neutrons will either react with another nucleus or failing that they will spontaneously decay into protons + e + v~ . In sum you get: He ---- 4 p + 4 e + 2 v~ Where the v~ are electron anti neutrinos. LK. Is a proton a proton? and an electron an electron? and a neutron a nuetron? BV. |
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Llanzlan Klazmon wrote:
"Benign Vanilla" wrote in : I realize this is not a chemistry group, but I figure I could get some slack cut for me, since I lurk here quite a bit. I am starting to reach my seven year old about elements, so I want to be sure I understand some basics. If I had a atom of Helium, a great pair of scissors and a some super glue, I could theoretically, cut the Helium atom (2 Protons, 2 Nuetrons, 2 Electrons) into pieces and then make two Hydrogen atoms (1 proton, 1 electron) and just toss the nuetrons in the garbage. Is this correct? More or less. You would have to supply a lot of energy to break an alpha particle (He neucleus) apart - it's an endothermic reaction. On the other hand stripping off the two elections from He to form an alpha particle plus 2e is endothermic too but doesn't require nearly as much energy. The free neutrons will either react with another nucleus or failing that they will spontaneously decay into protons + e + v~ . In sum you get: He ---- 4 p + 4 e + 2 v~ Where the v~ are electron anti neutrinos. LK. Is a proton a proton? and an electron an electron? and a neutron a nuetron? BV. Hey BV, I think scissors will do the trick. At least in the context of a couple of nerf balls and some string. |
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BV You read my posts,and hear me say "Dog trying to catch its own tail.
Gravity and Mass or Mass and gravity. I'm starting to make myself bored by saying it again. Gravity creates mass particles with its compression force from space energy. In the sub-micro realm the compression force of gravity in "tons"is (1 with 39 zeros after it) The size of the space it uses this great force on is ( a centimeter divided by 1 with 33 zeros after it. BV this comes from John Schwartz and Joel Scherk and they used this thinking to give the string theory a boast in the early 70's. Gravity created a string with this great force,and gave the string great tension,and that transfered to great vibrations,and those great vibrations created the electron,and its charge. Again you ask BV "What creates mass?" Going classical(Google) Mass is created by the Higgs field(or particle take your pick) BV go to Google.and look up the hypothetical particle "Higgs" nightbat does not like the Higgs particle any more than the graviton. BV You have the honor to be the first person I told to go to Google in my whole life. Bert |
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