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More On The Deliberate Destruction Of Saturn 5 Tooling
Offline Offline Gender: Male Posts: 451 Anyone care to comment on this? View Profile WWW Personal Message (Offline) New Saturn 5s « Reply #29 on: Yesterday at 06:19:29 PM » Reply with quote My source for the Saturn V information is Jay Windley, a mechanical engineer and Apollo historian. Jay is as knowledgeable about the Apollo program as anyone I’ve ever encountered. His main thing is combating the alleged “moon-landing hoax”, which he does with his Web site clavius.org and by participating in several Web forums. He is also a registered member here though he doesn’t post often. Jay has mentioned the Saturn V thing several times, including this thread at the Apollohoax forum. Here is one of Jay’s (JayUtah) quotes: Quote There is a conspiracy there, of sorts. The Saturn V was specifically dumped in favor of the space shuttle. The Saturn V was seen as mainstream technology, albeit the pinnacle of it. The shuttle was seen as a departure from convention and therefore risky. The shuttle contractors were obviously worried about competing with the Saturn V. So for confidence reasons, as well as budgetary reasons, the Saturn V program was terminated. And I mean terminated. The plans were archived and the tooling was ordered dismantled. This was to send a signal to the shuttle contractors that NASA wouldn't "secretly" maintain production of the Saturn V. About half of Apollo's budget was for Saturn V development. This was sold to Congress on the presumption that it would be the heavy-lift booster family even after Apollo. So you can imagine how reluctant Congress was to approve "yet another" entire launch vehicle family just ten years after approving the Mother of All Rockets. |
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wrote: Here is one of Jay’s (JayUtah)quotes: ... ...The shuttle contractors were obviously worried about competing with the Saturn V... Now why would that be, exactly? During the short period when the two coexisted, the shuttle was supposed to replace the Saturn IB, not the Saturn V -- NASA explicitly planned to operate both, with the shuttle as the supply ship for large Saturn-V-launched payloads. There wasn't any reasonable possibility that the two would compete with each other, because they were in completely different size classes. (Note that the shuttle concept then was rather smaller than what finally got built.) So for confidence reasons, as well as budgetary reasons, the Saturn V program was terminated. Sure looks to me like the budgetary reasons dominated. NASA did everything it could to keep the Saturn V alive, but was consistently unable to get funding for either ongoing production or the missions that would have used it. The plans were archived and the tooling was ordered dismantled. This was to send a signal to the shuttle contractors that NASA wouldn't "secretly" maintain production of the Saturn V. Serious hopes for a Saturn V production restart were abandoned (and all future projects that had been planning to use Saturn Vs were canceled) in summer 1970, before the shuttle was even an approved program... and those hopes had been faint since the summer of 1968, before the first shuttle design studies started. The tooling was dismantled for a simple and prosaic reason that requires no sinister hidden motives: storing it, and preserving even minimal capability to put it back into use, was costing about $6M/yr. About half of Apollo's budget was for Saturn V development. This was sold to Congress on the presumption that it would be the heavy-lift booster family even after Apollo. Congress itself closed off that possibility when it capped Saturn V production at 15. (And James Webb had to fight hard to get even 15.) -- spsystems.net is temporarily off the air; | Henry Spencer mail to henry at zoo.utoronto.ca instead. | |
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