"Apollo Hoax" Debunkery -- stars in the Apollo-16 UV telescope images

OM wrote:
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:46:44 GMT, h (Rand
Simberg) wrote:

Why are you paying any attention to what idiotarian Eric Chomko
writes?

...My question exactly. Ron's more intelligent than that.

I do for entertainment purposes, but I'm wondering why you do?

...In your case, I suspect it's the same sort of masturbation that a
masochist enjoys.

Spoken like a true, "it takes one to know one", example...

Rand likes to think that I'm entertainment fodder, while he isn't.

Eric


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Eric Chomko wrote:
Ron Miller wrote:
Eric Chomko wrote:

After studying the JFK assassination and learning about the two sides
of the issue (lone nutters and conspiracy buffs), I see that the Apollo
moon missions have a similar two sides (those that believe we went to
the moon and those that think it was faked). That said, after years of
back and forth with both sides entrenched in their beliefs a third
side, much smaller than the other two, tends to emerge. That third side
NEVER wants the issue to be resolved as the controversary makes them
money. Keeping the conflict alive between the two sides is their goal
and to have it last as long as possible. I think I finally understand
the nature of war.

Eric

I'm not sure what side that would be. And how would they be making
money from this? Some examples would be enlightening.

Well in the case of the JFK assassination the Six Floor Museum would be
an example as well as several authors of books these days, also the
media.

In the case of the Apollo missions, anyone that can sell a book
purporting that the lunar landings were a hoax, as well as Hollywood.
In the case of the latter, the first example was the film, "Capricorn
One".

Eric


R\

I know that the Apollo Hoax idiots are making money off other
idiots...what I was wondering about was this "third side" that is
supposedly making money from the controversy. Who are they?

R

Ron Miller wrote:
Eric Chomko wrote:
Ron Miller wrote:
Eric Chomko wrote:

After studying the JFK assassination and learning about the two sides
of the issue (lone nutters and conspiracy buffs), I see that the Apollo
moon missions have a similar two sides (those that believe we went to
the moon and those that think it was faked). That said, after years of
back and forth with both sides entrenched in their beliefs a third
side, much smaller than the other two, tends to emerge. That third side
NEVER wants the issue to be resolved as the controversary makes them
money. Keeping the conflict alive between the two sides is their goal
and to have it last as long as possible. I think I finally understand
the nature of war.

Eric

I'm not sure what side that would be. And how would they be making
money from this? Some examples would be enlightening.

Well in the case of the JFK assassination the Six Floor Museum would be
an example as well as several authors of books these days, also the
media.

In the case of the Apollo missions, anyone that can sell a book
purporting that the lunar landings were a hoax, as well as Hollywood.
In the case of the latter, the first example was the film, "Capricorn
One".

Eric


R\

I know that the Apollo Hoax idiots are making money off other
idiots...what I was wondering about was the "third side" that is
supposedly making money from the controversy. I see that what was
apparently meant were the publishers of the books, etc. So never mind.

R

Ron Miller wrote:
Eric Chomko wrote:
Ron Miller wrote:
Eric Chomko wrote:

After studying the JFK assassination and learning about the two sides
of the issue (lone nutters and conspiracy buffs), I see that the Apollo
moon missions have a similar two sides (those that believe we went to
the moon and those that think it was faked). That said, after years of
back and forth with both sides entrenched in their beliefs a third
side, much smaller than the other two, tends to emerge. That third side
NEVER wants the issue to be resolved as the controversary makes them
money. Keeping the conflict alive between the two sides is their goal
and to have it last as long as possible. I think I finally understand
the nature of war.

Eric

I'm not sure what side that would be. And how would they be making
money from this? Some examples would be enlightening.

Well in the case of the JFK assassination the Six Floor Museum would be
an example as well as several authors of books these days, also the
media.

In the case of the Apollo missions, anyone that can sell a book
purporting that the lunar landings were a hoax, as well as Hollywood.
In the case of the latter, the first example was the film, "Capricorn
One".

Eric


R\

I know that the Apollo Hoax idiots are making money off other
idiots...what I was wondering about was this "third side" that is
supposedly making money from the controversy. Who are they?

How about the Fox network as an example? Didn't they posit, without
stating, that the lunar landings could be fakes? It isn't so much that
they out and out deny that the landings happened, it is more like a
good defense attorney trying to establish reasonable doubt. The point
of never taking a definite side just keeping the controversy alive, and
collecting money as a result. I'm not saying that there is some
elaborate coordinated conspiracy between the two, more at being
oppurtunists seeing green where a controversy exists. Again, I now
understand the nature of war. Didn't the Rothschilds fund both sides of
the US Civil War? Did they ever want it to end?

Eric

R

Ron Miller wrote:
Ron Miller wrote:
Eric Chomko wrote:
Ron Miller wrote:
Eric Chomko wrote:

After studying the JFK assassination and learning about the two sides
of the issue (lone nutters and conspiracy buffs), I see that the Apollo
moon missions have a similar two sides (those that believe we went to
the moon and those that think it was faked). That said, after years of
back and forth with both sides entrenched in their beliefs a third
side, much smaller than the other two, tends to emerge. That third side
NEVER wants the issue to be resolved as the controversary makes them
money. Keeping the conflict alive between the two sides is their goal
and to have it last as long as possible. I think I finally understand
the nature of war.

Eric

I'm not sure what side that would be. And how would they be making
money from this? Some examples would be enlightening.

Well in the case of the JFK assassination the Six Floor Museum would be
an example as well as several authors of books these days, also the
media.

In the case of the Apollo missions, anyone that can sell a book
purporting that the lunar landings were a hoax, as well as Hollywood.
In the case of the latter, the first example was the film, "Capricorn
One".

Eric


R\

I know that the Apollo Hoax idiots are making money off other
idiots...what I was wondering about was the "third side" that is
supposedly making money from the controversy. I see that what was
apparently meant were the publishers of the books, etc. So never mind.

Not just them. The media as well. How about anti-American propagandists
with a political bent? And I'm not just talking about enemies here.
Many Europeans have become used to some superpower to hate. Well after
the Cold War ended the USSR stopped serving that need and guess who
ended up filling the void?

Eric

Eric

R

Screw each and every one of those vibrant stars (including those of the
Sirius star/solar system); where's Venus?
-
Brad Guth


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What a pathetic joke; Usenet isn't even worth it's own up-hill flowing
infomercial crapolla any more. Gee whiz, why am I not the least bit
surprised.

Unlike our naked and thus apparently rad-hard folks walking upon our
moon and having returned home entirely unscaved, at least I can prove it
within the regular laws of physics, as well as I can otherwise prove
with the best available science, that there has been and may yet be
other intelligent life existing/coexisting on Venus.

Would any of you good folks like to argue and/or constructively
contribute as to why the hell not? or is even that by itself asking too
much?
-

How about we try or at least pretend real hard as to forget all about
how downright Sv/rad hot and nasty our moon actually is; I'm saying
screw each and every one of those NASA/Apollo vibrant stars (including
those of the rather bluish, near-blue, violet and near-UV spectrum worth
of that extremely vibrant Sirius star/solar system); just bother to
show us village idiots as to where's Venus?

How about Apollo 11, 14 and 16, to please show us a Kodak moment
including Venus as unavoidably obtained from orbit or from the surface.
Where's your big-ass LLPOF insurmountable problem?

Most any 3D simulator proves exactly where Venus should have existed,
and otherwise of how easily photographed it would have been, as
unavoidably obtained along with that of our physically dark moon or that
of mother Earth being within the same frame(s), and thereby of having
been easily recorded within the DR(dynamic range) as afforded by the
very same photographic exposure as having recorded that physically dark
lunar surface.
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"If you're not looking for the truth, you will not find it."
-Brad Guth

"To believe with certainty we must begin with doubting."
-Stanislaus I

"The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes,
but having new eyes."
-Marcel Proust

"Truth is given, not to be contemplated, but to be done. Life is an
action, not a thought."
-F.W. Robertson
~
Even grumpy old Kurt Vonnegut would have to agree that; WAR is WAR,
thus "in war there are no rules" - In fact, war has been the very reason
why honest folks are having to deal with the likes of others that
haven't been playing by whatever the supposed rules, such as our
resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) having invented WMD seems to come to
mind.

Life upon Venus, a township w/Bridge & ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm


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