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"Eldonbraun" a écrit dans le message de oups.com... Barbara Schwarz wrote: A hurrican can be broken up with a strong laser from a weather satellite via a remote control from somebody on earth. Nobody has to be in harms way. I'm not sure that seeding clouds with silver-something-or-other to avoid hailstorms was ever really poven to be reliable. The laser is a lot of BS, but the Jello idea may not be THAT dumb...how about spreading on the sea surface, obviously on a very large scale, some product to reduce water evaporation, that would then "deteriorate" or be bio or H2O degradable after several days. Or perhaps change the surface color (dye, ink, paint....), which changes its reflectity, which would change its temperature. Eureka! BR |
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In sci.space.science br wrote:
"Eldonbraun" a ?crit dans le message de oups.com... Barbara Schwarz wrote: A hurrican can be broken up with a strong laser from a weather satellite via a remote control from somebody on earth. Nobody has to be in harms way. I'm not sure that seeding clouds with silver-something-or-other to avoid hailstorms was ever really poven to be reliable. The laser is a lot of BS, but the Jello idea may not be THAT dumb...how about spreading on the sea surface, obviously on a very large scale, some product to reduce water evaporation, that would then "deteriorate" or be bio or H2O degradable after several days. Or perhaps change the surface color (dye, ink, paint....), which changes its reflectity, which would change its temperature. Eureka! Biodiesel? |
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On 20 Sep 2005 19:28:13 GMT, Ian Stirling
wrote: In sci.space.science br wrote: "Eldonbraun" a ?crit dans le message de oups.com... Barbara Schwarz wrote: A hurrican can be broken up with a strong laser from a weather satellite via a remote control from somebody on earth. Nobody has to be in harms way. I'm not sure that seeding clouds with silver-something-or-other to avoid hailstorms was ever really poven to be reliable. The laser is a lot of BS, but the Jello idea may not be THAT dumb...how about spreading on the sea surface, obviously on a very large scale, some product to reduce water evaporation, that would then "deteriorate" or be bio or H2O degradable after several days. Or perhaps change the surface color (dye, ink, paint....), which changes its reflectity, which would change its temperature. Eureka! Biodiesel? Ice? |
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"Michael Gray" a écrit dans le message de ... On 20 Sep 2005 19:28:13 GMT, Ian Stirling wrote: Ice? Ice wouldn't last long enough and would be too heavy. We would need something : 1.lighter than water, perhaps hydrophobe enough to slow evaporation of the surface water underneath. 2.opaque, light-colored, preferably white, to change the surface albedo as much as possible. 3.bio-degradable after, say 72 hours 4.cheap, 'cause we'd need A LOT OF IT Combining this with an "albedo attack" from above (darkening the tops of the circling, white, hurricane clouds with a dark smoke or haze would warm them from above, thus lessening the funnel action in the middle, or eye of the storm. |
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A hurrican can be broken up with a strong laser from a weather satellite
br wrote:
"Michael Gray" a écrit dans le message de ... On 20 Sep 2005 19:28:13 GMT, Ian Stirling wrote: Ice? Ice wouldn't last long enough and would be too heavy. We would need something : 1.lighter than water, perhaps hydrophobe enough to slow evaporation of the surface water underneath. 2.opaque, light-colored, preferably white, to change the surface albedo as much as possible. 3.bio-degradable after, say 72 hours 4.cheap, 'cause we'd need A LOT OF IT Combining this with an "albedo attack" from above (darkening the tops of the circling, white, hurricane clouds with a dark smoke or haze would warm them from above, thus lessening the funnel action in the middle, or eye of the storm. During one experiment the former USSR dumped one whole tanker of oil in the Pacific in an effort to stop a hurricane. The experiment failed. USA experimented with silver-iodine dispersing it on a large scale from an aeroplane. There was no mathematically provable success. And as with Jello... ok, do you have enough Jello to cover a large piece of Mexican Gulf? And what happens when that nice thick Jello gets accelerated to 200 mi/h?? A lot more damage than from water droplets at the same speed. |
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A hurrican can be broken up with a strong laser from a weather satellite
"Marko Horvat" a écrit dans le message de ... During one experiment the former USSR dumped one whole tanker of oil in the Pacific in an effort to stop a hurricane. The experiment failed. "one whole tanker of oil " is not a whole hell of a lot, considering the size of a hurricane, and it's not the right color, really, to cool off the surface. USA experimented with silver-iodine dispersing it on a large scale from an aeroplane. There was no mathematically provable success. Silver IODIDE (not iodine) has been tried for years to "seed" clouds, with, as you say, no perceptible success. It's also been tried on hurricanes, see: www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/C5a.html. My father lost a bunch of money on one of those schemes in the Colorado Rockies in th 50's. That's not, however, what I suggested. My idea is to work on the albedo to modfify the temperatures involved, not to chemically change the storm. And as with Jello... ok, do you have enough Jello to cover a large piece of Mexican Gulf? And what happens when that nice thick Jello gets accelerated to 200 mi/h?? A lot more damage than from water droplets at the same speed. Jello's a dumb idea. BR |
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A hurrican can be broken up with a strong laser from a weathersatellite
Tilman Hausherr wrote:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 22:16:25 +0100, Cardinal Chunder wrote: Not to mention sheer absurdity of a laser with massive energy requirements being pointed at a storm system containing mind buggering amounts of energy. I'm sure that a laser could proscribe a circle with mirors or whatever, but what the point of that would be has yet to be explained by babbling Babs. More about her: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Schwarz http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/barbara_schwarz.html Might as well be Frank William Abagnale, no? |
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