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Old July 19th 07, 06:51 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Danny Deger
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You can download a draft of my book, "Houston, You Have a Problem" from
http://www.dannydeger.net. You can also get a copy of my shuttle entry
simulation, Deger Dots from the site. Enjoy.

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Old July 20th 07, 01:11 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Derek Lyons
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"Danny Deger" wrote:

You can download a draft of my book, "Houston, You Have a Problem" from
http://www.dannydeger.net.


The subtitle isn't, but should be, "Danny's lengthy whine on how he is
invariably the Steely Eyed Hero who is never wrong and is invariably
mistreated because of it".

D.
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Old July 20th 07, 01:21 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
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"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
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"Danny Deger" wrote:

You can download a draft of my book, "Houston, You Have a Problem" from
http://www.dannydeger.net.


The subtitle isn't, but should be, "Danny's lengthy whine on how he is
invariably the Steely Eyed Hero who is never wrong and is invariably
mistreated because of it".


Considering the fact you haven't had time to read it, I don't think you are
qualified to comment. For one thing it is not lengthy. The editor I am
working with is asking for more pages.

Danny Deger
P.S. Can you please killfile me!!!!


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Old July 20th 07, 07:49 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
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"Danny Deger" wrote:

"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
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"Danny Deger" wrote:

You can download a draft of my book, "Houston, You Have a Problem" from
http://www.dannydeger.net.


The subtitle isn't, but should be, "Danny's lengthy whine on how he is
invariably the Steely Eyed Hero who is never wrong and is invariably
mistreated because of it".


Considering the fact you haven't had time to read it,


I read over half of it, and deep skimmed the rest. While I do have a
high reading speed and pretty dammed good comprehension and retention,
your 'prose' placed little demand on any of those faculties.

I don't think you are qualified to comment.


ROTFLMAO.

For one thing it is not lengthy. The editor I am working with is asking
for more pages.


Probably in the vain hope that once he sifts the gems from the dross
he'll get a useable sentence. Maybe two.

P.S. Can you please killfile me!!!!


If you don't want your writings criticized, don't publically post 'em.

D.
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Old July 20th 07, 04:12 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
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I read through it as well, Danny. I don't understand what you are
trying to accomplish with it.

I found some of your war stories to be interesting. But I must agree
that I saw a common theme of not taking full accountability for your
own actions while blaming others for situations that you got into.
NASA office anecdotes aside, perhaps the most striking example of this
was your 'lead flew too tight a pattern and almost killed me' story.
YOU were the commander of your jet. You alone are ultimately
responsible for knowing what you are and aren't capable of handling.
If you're on inside downwind and see that the runway is too tight,
then you have two options available: cheat wider to a more normal
offset from the runway, or press straight and delay your base turn so
that you can correct for the overshoot after flying a normal and safe
turn to final. Or you can do what you did and try to hang with lead
in the most manly way possible. But if you make that decision, it is
a mistake to blame him for what you chose to do.

I can go story by story and give you my take on each if you're
interested, but I would suggest to you that the most productive way
for you to get on with your life is not by getting back at people you
see to have wronged you, but rather by taking control of the totality
that is within your realm of control. That is your own decisions and
your own reactions.

Good engineers and good pilots will do just that. They will identify
what is beyond their control, and then find a way to work around it.
If you find yourself flying through a thunderstorm for whatever
reason, is it the best use of your time to focus on cursing the
storm? I'd say that you'd do much better by doing what you can to fly
out of it, and then make sure that in the future you do everything you
can to avoid thunderstorms.

People can be like storms. They often suck, and occasionally throw
lightning bolts at you. My strategy is to read the weather forecast,
stay vigilant of the warning signs, and AVOID them.

I agree with Derek's assessment here. Your book strikes me as a
person who has survived flying out of several thunderstorms with
significant battle damage, and then chooses to broadcast on Guard to
the whole world how those thunderstorms were out to get him.

You push your book with an attitude that it highlights how other
peoples mistakes have harmed you. But you are advertising your own
mistakes, without showing recognition that they were your mistakes.

Before I had heard any of your stories, I had formed a solid opinion
about you, your accomplishments and your character. After hearing
your stories, all that has changed.


~ CT

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Old July 20th 07, 04:58 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
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I read through it as well, Danny. I don't understand what you are
trying to accomplish with it.

snip

I agree with Derek's assessment here. Your book strikes me as a
person who has survived flying out of several thunderstorms with
significant battle damage, and then chooses to broadcast on Guard to
the whole world how those thunderstorms were out to get him.


Thanks for the response. The feedback is welcome. I gues the
"thunderstorms is out to get me: is when NASA lied to my doctor about my
behavior in 1999 to have me locked up.

Danny Deger

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Old July 20th 07, 05:33 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
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From Danny Dot:
Thanks for the response. The feedback is welcome. I gues the
"thunderstorms is out to get me: is when NASA lied to my doctor about my
behavior in 1999 to have me locked up.


I imagine that sharing your stories with the world can have cathartic
value. And others may learn from your experiences. I hope that you
can find a positive way to look back on all that. My understanding is
that bitterness will do much more harm to one's self rather than
anyone else.

I wish you the best turnaround, Danny.


~ CT

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Old July 20th 07, 07:48 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
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From Danny Dot:
Thanks for the response. The feedback is welcome. I gues the
"thunderstorms is out to get me: is when NASA lied to my doctor about my
behavior in 1999 to have me locked up.


I imagine that sharing your stories with the world can have cathartic
value. And others may learn from your experiences. I hope that you
can find a positive way to look back on all that. My understanding is
that bitterness will do much more harm to one's self rather than
anyone else.

I wish you the best turnaround, Danny.


Thanks. I have gotten some very possitive responses from a couple of
people that have been bullied at work.

Danny Deger




~ CT


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Old July 21st 07, 02:10 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
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"Danny Deger" wrote in message
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From Danny Dot:
Thanks for the response. The feedback is welcome. I gues the
"thunderstorms is out to get me: is when NASA lied to my doctor about my
behavior in 1999 to have me locked up.


I imagine that sharing your stories with the world can have cathartic
value. And others may learn from your experiences. I hope that you
can find a positive way to look back on all that. My understanding is
that bitterness will do much more harm to one's self rather than
anyone else.

I wish you the best turnaround, Danny.


Thanks. I have gotten some very possitive responses from a couple of
people that have been bullied at work.


Yes, but do you see the commonality here. When you get validation from
folks who have not been bullied you may be on to something.

Hate to say it but it's entirely possible all these "bullied" people are
just paranoid or overly sensitive.

I think CT's comments are worth the thought.

(and this is probably one of the few times CT and Derek have agreed on
anything :-)



Danny Deger




~ CT



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Old July 21st 07, 02:42 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Danny Deger
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"Greg D. Moore (Strider)" wrote in message
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Hate to say it but it's entirely possible all these "bullied" people are
just paranoid or overly sensitive.


You hit the nail right on the head in fighting workplace bullies. The bully
simply labels the victim as "paranoid" and many believe the bully. It is
not that hard to believe. Some people in the work force don't like someone
and they go out of their way to make life hard for that person. It is
really no different than bullies in a playground. It does happen. Europe
is much farther along than we are in working the problem.

Danny Deger

 




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